Trump could win presidency: Yes or No?

[bruto]

Sometimes cartoonists can do good summaries. Credit Andy Marlette.

Hillary “ Trump is an idiot…
… a wacko, a bigot…
… a conman & an unqualified lunatic..
… who is an embarrassment to this country!”

Pollster “And you are pretty much tied with him.”

That's a summary of something for sure, but not of Hillary's assertions, alas.

 

[Dr. Keith]

Good point. ISIS is one anti-government force.

Why is the US supporting "rebels" in a supposedly sovereign country?

Would Trump continue to support them? I doubt it.

Russia still isn't against ISIS and we are. What is the common goal again?

 

[dudalb]

PartSkeptic does seem to have his own unusual view of reality.

 

[dudalb]

If that turns into a Trump Presidency, they're going to have a lot to answer for. Assuming we're all still here to investigate.

Irony is that Trump will go after the media very early in his presidency.

 

[aleCcowaN]

WHEN Trump becomes president there will be a whole lot less international tension.

This will be the United Nations during Trump's era (Ivanka will represent US):

 

[phiwum]

Sounds like the kind of diplomacy which reduces international tension to me. Trump would likely have thrown a hissy-fit which could have turned a small problem into a major incident.

Trump said that he would have flown away from the G20 rather than walk down a metal stairway from Air Force One (a stairway that he claimed was Chinese-made, but is in fact part of the plane).

This is not a man who respects other nations.

 

[Ladewig]

Prediction: WHEN Trump becomes president there will be a whole lot less international tension. He wants trade deals where both parties win, but where the US does not get screwed.

No, he has repeatedly said that he wants trade deals where the US is a clear winner

indeed.
Part Skeptic, I am going to need to see a citation on that before I believe what you are saying.
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[PartSkeptic]

Russia still isn't against ISIS and we are. What is the common goal again?

Do you watch the Russian network RTTV? Even if only now and then?

dudalb: As far as alternate realities go, I tend to agree. The US has its own peculiar blinders version.

There will be common goals once Trump take the (maybe subtle position) that all the rebels in Syria are terrorist and can be killed or driven out. Are they not?

The US agitators promised arms and intelligence support to anyone fighting Assad. Nice way to start a civil war, and now the media cries about Aleppo and its civilians because the sovereign government is winning the war, and Aleppo will not surrender as it should.

 

[PartSkeptic]

Trump said that he would have flown away from the G20 rather than walk down a metal stairway from Air Force One (a stairway that he claimed was Chinese-made, but is in fact part of the plane).

This is not a man who respects other nations.

The rear stairway is indeed part of the plane. Required for deplaning where there is no jet-way or roll-up stairs provided.

It was a clear insult by the Chinese.

A strong leader responds to snubs and insults by strong action.

Obama showed that he caves under pressure (like to the Israelis). The Chinese know he will take no military action in the South China sea. All he will do is sell US arms to just about any side that will buy them.

Trump will stay out of the South China sea dispute, but he will say so, because he does not want the US to get involved in local disputes.

 

[PartSkeptic]

This will be the United Nations during Trump's era (Ivanka will represent US):

That video gave me chills. Tomorrow ruled by the mega-corprations who rule the media.

Give the people their Coke (and their coke), and their video games and keep them docile and brainwashed.

But, as all the dystopian movies tell us, there will be human self-thinking independent rebels.

 

[PartSkeptic]

indeed.
Part Skeptic, I am going to need to see a citation on that before I believe what you are saying.
..

It would seem you switch off when Trump speaks?

 

[Foolmewunz]

The rear stairway is indeed part of the plane. Required for deplaning where there is no jet-way or roll-up stairs provided.

It was a clear insult by the Chinese.

A strong leader responds to snubs and insults by strong action.

Obama showed that he caves under pressure (like to the Israelis). The Chinese know he will take no military action in the South China sea. All he will do is sell US arms to just about any side that will buy them.

Trump will stay out of the South China sea dispute, but he will say so, because he does not want the US to get involved in local disputes.

Are you in private communication with Donald Trump? This is not what he's on record as saying about the South China Sea and EAST CHINA SEA. That latter means "Japan/China Island Dispute", by the way. Far from "stay out", he has said he will strengthen our presence in those areas. No doubt, someone has pointed out to him that there's oil there, and perhaps in keeping with his Iraq "keep the oil" strategy, and having watched one too many Rambo or Chuck Norris flicks, he thinks we won in Viet Nam and have a right to the oil? Whatever his reasoning, he has certainly not made the slightest indication of not getting involved.

Of course, now that he has a kindred spirit in charge in Manila, they can sit around and belch and fart and do manly-man stuff, and who knows.... maybe he'll get us Richards and Subic back?

 

[The Great Zaganza]

So Trump would be tough on trade deals with China, but would let them have one of the lifeblood arteries of global trade to control?
Not very consistent.

 

[phiwum]

The rear stairway is indeed part of the plane. Required for deplaning where there is no jet-way or roll-up stairs provided.

It was a clear insult by the Chinese.

A strong leader responds to snubs and insults by strong action.

Right. Skipping the entire G20 summit because of a logisitical problem involving a staircase is precisely how one decreases international tension.

And also, such a little hissyfit is a sign of strength.

 

[NoahFence]

Trump said that he would have flown away from the G20 rather than walk down a metal stairway from Air Force One (a stairway that he claimed was Chinese-made, but is in fact part of the plane).

This is not a man who respects other nations humans.

FTFY, added specificity.

 

[NoahFence]

The rear stairway is indeed part of the plane. Required for deplaning where there is no jet-way or roll-up stairs provided.

It was a clear insult by the Chinese.

A strong leader responds to snubs and insults by strong action.

Such as? What would this "strong leader" do in your world? Assuming that Trump is this strong leader.


(spoiler - he's not. He's a pussy)

 

[aleCcowaN]

If we stay in topic, maybe PartSkeptic will go back to the "trumped up" thread where that foamy inconsistent debate belongs.

After the Washington Post Monkey Wrench Survey stunt (yes, now we are in the period of polls trying to drive people and not the other way around), there's radio silence from other pollsters in the lonely star state. I would rather attribute that to the Peshtigo effect. In ten days we'll be seeing serious polls again showing Trump ahead by 6-7% in that state.

One hint about that in Quinnipiac's poll on battle states from yesterday. This is a serious one, and a serious one that is tilted towards Clinton from the beginning. They didn't include Texas in the list battle states because they didn't see cause for that. They also left Virginia out, not strange.

What this poll shows is that Johnson's candidacy can have pretty dire effects on both major contenders, but more on one of them. It's on a state by state base. Just a sample: when Johnson is included in Ohio the virtual tie becomes Trump + 4. The opposite occurs in Utah, where the mass who voted for Cruz is disenchanted with Trump, according to another pollster.

I won't tell more about Johnson's influence because it goes against my wishes of seeing a real democracy grow in the USA, and Johnson, Stein and Castle doing exceedingly well are part of that path towards a real democracy.

 

[Ladewig]

It would seem you switch off when Trump speaks?

Perhaps I do.
Your providing a citation will help me see the error of my ways.

Can you provide an actual citation?

 

[Regnad Kcin]

Right. Skipping the entire G20 summit because of a logisitical problem involving a staircase is precisely how one decreases international tension.

And also, such a little hissyfit is a sign of strength.

But remember, Obama is a thin-skinned narcissist.

 

[bruto]

A Trump presidency would certainly make certain diplomatic negotiations easier for the other guys, though. If all you have to do to make him fly away in a huff is to make him use his own stairway, life is simpler than when that wimpy powderpuff Obama sidesteps the snub and gets all in your grille anyway.

We need more stupid bluster. Less talk, more flags.