Hillary Clinton is Done: part 3

[lionking]

Seems like those videos of her struggling to speak despite huge coughing fits are very GOOD evidence of a major health issue. So is the analysis of Dr Pinsky.

It is plain that SOMETHING really bad is going on with her health, whether it's just a bug she can't shake or (as some have suggested) a form of epileptic fit.

She should be examined by a panel of independent physicians immediately and the results disclosed.

You are joking, right? I've had a bad cough lately. So has my wife and children. What is my major health issue?

Maybe you should be examined before you post more crap?

The irrational hatred of HRC is a sight to behold. And a commentary on many posters in this thread.

 

[NoahFence]

Seems like those videos of her struggling to speak despite huge coughing fits are very GOOD evidence of a major health issue. So is the analysis of Dr Pinsky.

It is plain that SOMETHING really bad is going on with her health, whether it's just a bug she can't shake or (as some have suggested) a form of epileptic fit.

She should be examined by a panel of independent physicians immediately and the results disclosed.

You've never had a coughing fit? Swallowing down the wrong tube?

Come on.

What is it with HDS/ODS? It's like being honest is the worst thing possible. *********** maddening.

And you know, it's not just the dishonesty. It's the almost comical ease by which the dishonesty is found.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Ha! I laugh at your posturing. I just made up the term. I liked the image and was thinking of making tribute to Dog Town's sig line saluting Bernie long after the battle is over. Reminded me of an old scene in a movie with the Hollywood revolutionaries sitting around the campfire the night before the bound-to-fail attack of the next morning. I forgot to go back and include the analogy, though. The term is meaningless.

But you sure explained what Labo(ur) Day is elsewhere. Which proved.... what?

I'm afraid that there's no easier way for you to figure it out than the one called introspective.

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[sunmaster14]

I don't know if Hillary Clinton is "done", but I sure agree with Paul Krugman that she is being "Gored" by the media.

Well, it's nice to see that Paul Krugman remains as unhinged as ever. He even pretends that somehow winning the electoral college while losing the popular vote is evidence of something nefarious. The man is a disgraceful partisan, and he has absolutely no compunction about blatant lying.

 

[NoahFence]

Well, it's nice to see that Paul Krugman remains as unhinged as ever. He even pretends that somehow winning the electoral college while losing the popular vote is evidence of something nefarious. The man is a disgraceful partisan, and he has absolutely no compunction about blatant lying.

That's rich. He's a disgraceful partisan. HAHA

Anywho -it's not nefarious to lose the popular vote but win the EC. It is however, outdated and time for it to change.

 

[sunmaster14]

That's rich. He's a disgraceful partisan. HAHA

Anywho -it's not nefarious to lose the popular vote but win the EC. It is however, outdated and time for it to change.

No, it's not. Why is a popular vote better? Giving equal weight to all votes is as arbitrary as any other system. We're not all equally knowledgeable, or equally motivated, or equally invested in the well being of the country. There are people who hate the US, or hate Americans generally, who get a vote worth the same as mine. There are people who will be dead before the next President takes office whose votes are worth the same as mine. Hell, there are people who are already dead whose votes are worth the same as mine. Any system you choose will necessarily be arbitrary, and the one is just as likely (or unlikely) to choose a good leader as another. The main virtue of any particular system is that the masses will abide by it. Right now, they abide by the electoral college system, and they will continue to do so. Changing it is just opening up a can of worms.

 

[varwoche]

Seems like those videos of her struggling to speak despite huge coughing fits are very GOOD evidence of a major health issue.

Are there actually more than one of these incidents that you have presented in plural?

By the way, this sort of major health issue is generally referred to as a cough, which is most often a symptom of a cold. But what the hell, I'm going to wear a hazmat suit the next time she comes to the Pacific Northwest just to be safe.

 

[The Great Zaganza]

Health is not an issue - we have Clinton's medical record (and one for Trump written on a napkin) and that's that.
You can check the physician's credentials if you have doubts, but picking random bits of footage is no way to diagnose, even for an expert.
Otherwise you have to assume that Trump is an epileptic.

if you seriously think that Clinton is on her last leg (and are not too keen on Trump), you should vote for her in the expectation that the stress of the job will do her in within a month.

 

[NoahFence]

No, it's not. Why is a popular vote better? Giving equal weight to all votes is as arbitrary as any other system. We're not all equally knowledgeable, or equally motivated, or equally invested in the well being of the country. There are people who hate the US, or hate Americans generally, who get a vote worth the same as mine. There are people who will be dead before the next President takes office whose votes are worth the same as mine. Hell, there are people who are already dead whose votes are worth the same as mine. Any system you choose will necessarily be arbitrary, and the one is just as likely (or unlikely) to choose a good leader as another. The main virtue of any particular system is that the masses will abide by it. Right now, they abide by the electoral college system, and they will continue to do so. Changing it is just opening up a can of worms.

The highlighted sure is accurate. Blind squirrel and nuts and all.

Popular vote should be the way we do it. Who got more votes? He or SHE wins.

Simple maths.

 

[Babbylonian]

Are there actually more than one of these incidents that you have presented in plural?

By the way, this sort of major health issue is generally referred to as a cough, which is most often a symptom of a cold. But what the hell, I'm going to wear a hazmat suit the next time she comes to the Pacific Northwest just to be safe.

I think you're wrong on this one. A cough is even more often a symptom of a dry mouth/throat...

 

[The Big Dog]

Yeah, another B-bu-bu-buTRUMP post.

Go figure.

 

[varwoche]

And voting machine rigging, as happened in 2000, 2004, and elsewhere.

What voting machine rigging?

Well ChristianProgressive? If it's off topic here, by all means post your evidence in a different thread and give readers a heads-up. And please clarify the when/where confusion while you're at it.

 

[The_Animus]

How about all those videos of her speaking and not having any problems? Do you ever cough? You wouldn't be cherry-picking data, would you?

Do you ever cough? I do, and I see others cough fairly often as well. But it's not quite the same is it? At least I and everyone else I see cough, doesn't cough that much and that long. Not to say it doesn't happen, but that sort of coughing really isn't the norm.

 

[sunmaster14]

Do you ever cough? I do, and I see others cough fairly often as well. But it's not quite the same is it? At least I and everyone else I see cough, doesn't cough that much and that long. Not to say it doesn't happen, but that sort of coughing really isn't the norm.

I did have a cough like that about six months ago. I went to the doctor, and she diagnosed that it was caused by allergies and prescribed me Singulair, which worked like a charm. It's a very serious issue, though, particularly in a 68 year old with a history of other health problems. It's even more of an issue considering that a campaign would want to be on top of things and make sure that the cough was mitigated with whatever medications are available (and there are many). So you're seeing Hillary at her best. Which is not very good in my opinion.

 

[acbytesla]

No, it's not. Why is a popular vote better? Giving equal weight to all votes is as arbitrary as any other system. We're not all equally knowledgeable, or equally motivated, or equally invested in the well being of the country. There are people who hate the US, or hate Americans generally, who get a vote worth the same as mine. There are people who will be dead before the next President takes office whose votes are worth the same as mine. Hell, there are people who are already dead whose votes are worth the same as mine. Any system you choose will necessarily be arbitrary, and the one is just as likely (or unlikely) to choose a good leader as another. The main virtue of any particular system is that the masses will abide by it. Right now, they abide by the electoral college system, and they will continue to do so. Changing it is just opening up a can of worms.

Not that that rant made much sense. Yes, some people die after their vote is cast but also some people come of age between election day and the inaugural.

My biggest problem with the electoral vote is that it over values votes in rural or less populous states. They are over-represented in Congress as well as for the Presidency. But of course it was the Great Compromise.

 

[sunmaster14]

Not that that rant made much sense. Yes, some people die after their vote is cast but also some people come of age between election day and the inaugural.

My biggest problem with the electoral vote is that it over values votes in rural or less populous states. They are over-represented in Congress as well as for the Presidency. But of course it was the Great Compromise.

Well, it's the whole point, isn't it? I mean we have a union of individual states. As for whether it's fair, it is most certainly fair because very American citizen has the right to live in any one of the 50 states and Washington DC. If you want a greater say in the Federal government, go live in a less populous state. Of course, you probably have the greatest say by living in the Washington DC area. Because then it is easier for you to lobby politicians personally or influence the media which the politicians read.

 

[acbytesla]

Well, it's the whole point, isn't it? I mean we have a union of individual states. As for whether it's fair, it is most certainly fair because very American citizen has the right to live in any one of the 50 states and Washington DC. If you want a greater say in the Federal government, go live in a less populous state. Of course, you probably have the greatest say by living in the Washington DC area. Because then it is easier for you to lobby politicians personally or influence the media which the politicians read.

That's your reply? You think being "geographically close means they have better opportunity to influence the government? Surely ye jest. Never mind that those in DC have ZERO representation in Congress whereas far fewer residents in Alaska have 2 Senators and a Congressman. What is most represented in our government is money.

 

[tyr_13]

k, who cares about Haitians anyway.

Oh I know I don't. I'd rather they all died from AIDS and earthquakes, which is why I'll never forgive all the good work the Clinton Foundation has done for the people there.[/sarcasm]

You've still not made a claim or said what evidence you've found convincing. Your video is a bunch of lying propaganda however, and is evidence of nothing besides what you want to believe. The reality is that The Clinton Foundation's work there has been a mixed bag, just like every single other group working there.

Or two?

So far you've had none. Thus, I conclude you don't wish to defend any claims, and your complaint is pointless to address. Continue with your name calling, you're in good company for it. Conservatives nor the crazy left will call you out as long as it's about Clinton somehow.

 

[Childlike Empress]

Trump Tops Clinton 45% to 43% in the New Survey

[...] However, most voters say they still expect to see Clinton prevail in November. 59% believe that Clinton will be become a new president vs. 34% who think Trump is set to become the winner. It looks people just are not ready to believe that the anti-establishment candidate can win because they no more longer believe in the kind of democracy implemented by the American elites.

SouthFront are not only evil Russians but evil Crimeans so what do they know.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Do you ever cough? I do, and I see others cough fairly often as well. But it's not quite the same is it? At least I and everyone else I see cough, doesn't cough that much and that long. Not to say it doesn't happen, but that sort of coughing really isn't the norm.

Oh for pity's sake. Try speaking engagements one after another. Trump's the only one I haven't seen be hoarse now and again.

If she has such awful health, how is it she can even be seen in public? Here's her schedule from her website. She has 6 speaking events scheduled in the next 3 weeks. The reporters are on the plane with her.

It borders on sexist to accept Trump's narrative she's unfit.