The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017
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Of course not, it will prove to him that the real scientists coming up with all the stuff he cannot learn/does not make any sense to him are still ganging up on him because He Knows The Truth!!!!!!!
halleyscomet
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The last 9 years of repeated failures haven't dissuaded him. What will one more failure matter?
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It appears you have no clue whatsoever why gravitational lensing is called that way
Energy density (matter) can curve spacetime in it's vicinity, which' curved spacetime acts similarly to a concave lens, though not in exactly the same way.
Curved spacetime is the lens.
Next time you look through a lens, you will think of curved spacetime
I don't know whether a photon know that space is stretched´
I think we have still no evidence.
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Even a nuclear power station can blow up when scientific purpose and commercial purpose is mixed.
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Off course I know about it, but if a NASA astrophysics, that clearly seems to know what he talk about, dispute that it ever have been truly measured, I cannot deny it, - I cannot accept excuses as for example ahhh this is only because he is black , his nose and ears and stomach are too big , - or because he do not believe in all the mass brainwashes intolerant world view, that now a days is forced in to the heads of innocent student.
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Daylightstar
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Photons have demonstrated to understand that spacetime around energy density (matter) is curved as photons follow a necessary curved path.
Daylightstar
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How can Bjarne's 'ruler object' measure distances.
Bjarne, I have asked you several times already,
If you still do not understand this simple question, just say so.
Bjarne, I have asked you several times already,
How is your 'ruler object' able to measure distances?
If you still do not understand this simple question, just say so.
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Daylightstar
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Why don't you ask him for support. Get into a debate with him.
Can you guess the result?
Daylightstar
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By the looks of it, Bjarne has already fallen apart a very long time ago.
Bjarne
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How can you be sure that this too also not only is religion ?
halleyscomet
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Whatever you were trying to say with that response, the fact remains, if your ideas had any foundation in reality, GPS satellite design, programming, operation and maintenance would have to take them into account.
The fact that GPS satellites work leaves you with the following options:
1: You are wrong and need to go back to the drawing board.
2: GPS satellites DON'T really work and there's a grand conspiracy to create the illusion that they do.
3: GPS satellite designers, programmers and operators ALREADY know you're right, have taken your ideas into account when designing the satellites and their support systems and are inexplicably keeping it a secret instead of publishing research and experimental evidence that would put their names on par with Einstein and Newton in the history books.
Which of those three options seems most likely to you?
halleyscomet
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That's called the "Argument from Authority." In this case you're using an "authority" who is advocating a fringe theory that is wholly and completely incompatible with yours. The entirety of your argument for his accuracy is that, on this point and this point only, he kinda-sorta says something you agree with and he's supposedly a former NASA employee. Considering we have almost the entirety of the rest of NASA on OUR side in this discussion, your one lone guy who is denying one of the best demonstrated concepts in astrophysics is a poor piece of "evidence" indeed.
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halleyscomet
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To be as blunt as the site's terms of service allow, because of math you brag about being beyond your comprehension and observations you deny and ignore.
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"clearly seems to know what he talk about"? How did you make that determination?
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Is it your assertion that photons can somehow follow a "religion"? Non-sequiturs will not help you either.
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halleyscomet
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I think he's asserting that the theory that photons follow curved space-time is religious in nature.
What he said kinda-sorta agreed with him if you tilt your head and squint just right. Therefore, he knows what he's talking about!
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Even experimental and scientific reactors can meltdown or explode. One of the first safety devices for an atomic pile was a guy holding rope to hold up control rods. Should the guy feel the need or get killed the rope is released and control rods dropped. Hopefully halting or inhibiting a runaway reaction. An actual 'dead man' switch.
Is your claim that the mere detection of your purported affect would cause GPS satellites to explode? Again non-sequiturs will not help you either.
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Which makes no difference to a photon. So the assertion of "religion" is irrelevant and a non-sequitur for why light does bend in a gravitational field.
Don't fall for the red-herrings.
No, actually he doesn't. It is only by actually ignoring what most of that Ex-NASA guy actually says can Bjarne even think it agrees with anything he asserts. Bjarne wants to simply fixate on a particular (and already demonstrably inaccurate) aspect of that Ex-NASA guy's claims. That gravitational lensing doesn't happen beyond a certain distance. Even if just that part of the claim was correct it wouldn't help Bjarne's claims.
Don't fall for the cherry picking, particularly when one only picks a pomegranate.
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photons do not know anything, nor do gravitational waves or atoms or etc. Only minds and (sort of) computing machines know (have what we call "knowledge of") things corporeal and incorporeal!!!!!
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