Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part IV

[Bob001]

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Don't people with money have enough influence without giving them multiple votes?

This billionaire doesn't think so.

Billionaire venture capitalist Tom Perkins has a new idea for voting rights in America: if you have more money, you get more votes.

http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/billionaire-rich-should-get-more-votes

 

[TheL8Elvis]

Wouldn't early voting and absentee voting solve that issue?

In almost every case.

http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/absentee-and-early-voting.aspx

 

[acbytesla]

This billionaire doesn't think so.

http://www.msnbc.com/politicsnation/billionaire-rich-should-get-more-votes

Not a surprise. Not that it will happen. The direction of the country is the opposite. His is a very minority opinion. BTW, early US history voting was limited to only white male property owners.

 

[acbytesla]

Excellent example. Washington is one of three states that conduct elections entirely by mail.
https://www.sos.wa.gov/elections/faq_vote_by_mail.aspx
http://www.ncsl.org/research/elections-and-campaigns/all-mail-elections.aspx

Voting by mail is a nearly ideal way to increase voter participation, and eliminate all the problems associated with traditional methods: inconvenient poll hours and locations, long lines, hackable voting machines, restrictive ID laws, etc. I'd like to see it adopted more widely. But you still have to decide where you live.

I live in Washington State. What's great is that you can vote weeks ahead of the election. It does increase voter participation.

But I still prefer from a personal perspective of going to my local precinct and voting. There was a satisfaction of going and voting that is missing by voting by mail.

 

[NoahFence]

Wouldn't early voting and absentee voting solve that issue?

I suppose it would but Bob seems to think they need to go home?

 

[Bob001]

I suppose it would but Bob seems to think they need to go home?

No I don't. Mail voting is great, and almost every state offers absentee ballots. But I do think "home," as you yourself refer to their permanent legal residence, is where they should be registered to vote.

 

[Stacko]

CNN: Trump advisers says main reason Trump went to Mexico was “for the photo opp.”​

That might be the most honest admission to come out of his campaign.

 

[halleyscomet]

Dupe Deleted.

 

[acbytesla]

No I don't. Mail voting is great, and almost every state offers absentee ballots. But I do think "home," as you yourself refer to their permanent legal residence, is where they should be registered to vote.

I'm not sure what "permanent" means. I have never lived anywhere permanently. When I graduated from college, I didn't return to the residence I lived in when I entered college. My guess is most students didn't either.

I think you should vote where your residence is.

 

[halleyscomet]

Dupe deleted. Damn lag.

 

[halleyscomet]

Donald Trump Meeting With Mexico's President

It's not clear why the meeting is taking place, although Peña Nieto might be anxious to change the narrative after independent news outlet Aristegui Noticias published a particularly damaging story about him a few days before:

Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto heavily plagiarized the thesis for his law degree, according to an investigation by a local news outlet. Aristegui Noticias on Sunday published an online report based on an analysis of the embattled president's thesis by a group of academics, which it said was then corroborated by the news outlet. It said 29 percent of the thesis was material lifted from other works, including 20 paragraphs copied word-for-word from a book written by former President Miguel de la Madrid without citation or mention in the bibliography.

With this invitation, President Peña Nieto appears to be dialing back his own comments about Trump, who he compared to Adolf Hitler in March 2016:

Pena Nieto attacked the "populism" of the Trump campaign, which he said sought to put forward "very easy, simple solutions to problems that are obviously not that easy to solve." "And there have been episodes in human history, unfortunately, where these expressions of this strident rhetoric have only led to very ominous situations in the history of humanity," the Mexican president added. "That's how Mussolini got in, that's how Hitler got in, they took advantage of a situation, a problem perhaps, which humanity was going through at the time, after an economic crisis. "And I think what (they) put forward ended up at what we know today from history, in global conflagration. We don't want that happening anywhere in the world," Pena Nieto said.

I find the political cartoon at the link particularly amusing.

 

[sunmaster14]

I'm not sure what "permanent" means. I have never lived anywhere permanently. When I graduated from college, I didn't return to the residence I lived in when I entered college. My guess is most students didn't either.

I think you should vote where your residence is.

You do vote where your residence is. It just so happens that the laws on residency don't coincide with what you seem to think makes sense. A lot of thought has gone into this, by the way. The most important requirement for residency is that you can only have one at any given time. That makes your belief that it should be wherever one is living at the moment rather problematic when it comes time to vote for things that affect the local community around you.

Your situation does remind me of a joke/observation that I saw somewhere a few years ago (maybe in a movie?). One guy visits a small town and strikes up a conversation with a local. The visitor asks "Have you lived here your whole life?" and the local responds "Not yet."

 

[acbytesla]

You do vote where your residence is. It just so happens that the laws on residency don't coincide with what you seem to think makes sense. A lot of thought has gone into this, by the way. The most important requirement for residency is that you can only have one at any given time. That makes your belief that it should be wherever one is living at the moment rather problematic when it comes time to vote for things that affect the local community around you.

Your situation does remind me of a joke/observation that I saw somewhere a few years ago (maybe in a movie?). One guy visits a small town and strikes up a conversation with a local. The visitor asks "Have you lived here your whole life?" and the local responds "Not yet."

It's a good and old joke.

I believe that students should vote in only one place. Either school or maybe back at their family home. But they should vote somewhere and obstacles should not be put in their way that might discourage voting. We want more people interested and involved, not less.

 

[Stacko]

Donald's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway said 'rape would not exist if women were stronger'

 

[cullennz]

I still don't get why the US even worry about who votes where etc.

It's all down to colleges or whatever their called.

It's a bit one person, one vote........But it's pointless

 

[halleyscomet]

I still don't get why the US even worry about who votes where etc.

It's all down to colleges or whatever their called.

It's a bit one person, one vote........But it's pointless

So you think voting is pointless?

 

[pgwenthold]

Donald's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway said 'rape would not exist if women were stronger'

He surrounds himself with the BEST people.

 

[cullennz]

So you think voting is pointless?

In the US, yes.

I could have it completely wrong and if so I apologise.

But the way I understand it, isn't it down to the colleges?

If individual votes counted, with the population there wouldn't be a result for about a week

 

[sir drinks-a-lot]

Donald's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway said 'rape would not exist if women were stronger'

Is there a sepcific reason we're supposed to be outraged that I'm missing?

Her comment is probably a bit inaccurate if you want to nitpick, but the gist of the statement seems correct, albeit a bit obvious.

Some example nit picks:

- rape would still exist
- the incidences of women raping men would probably increase

 

[Bob001]

In the US, yes.

I could have it completely wrong and if so I apologise.

But the way I understand it, isn't it down to the colleges?

If individual votes counted, with the population there wouldn't be a result for about a week

What are you trying to say? You don't seem to have any understanding at all of what happens in the U.S.