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What Type of Theist or Atheist are You?

What Type of Theist or Atheist are You?

  • Theist type A – I believe a god actually exists

    Votes: 7 6.1%

  • Theist type B – I know a god actually exists

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • Atheist type A – I neither believe nor disbelieve a god actually exists

    Votes: 14 12.3%

  • Atheist type B – I believe a god doesn't actually exist

    Votes: 58 50.9%

  • Atheist type C – I know a god doesn't actually exist

    Votes: 33 28.9%
  • Total voters
    114
ynot said:
So what is that entire definition then?

I didn't say you were.

Then why didn't you vote "Atheist type A – I neither believe nor disbelieve a god actually exists"?

One wonders at your problem . . .
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Had you intended to subsume all of what is actually atheism (A-theism, that is, "without 'god' ") you might have included a definition of the state of actually being without a belief in 'god' (or 'gods'). As it is, the type of atheist that simply does not have a belief in 'god' (or 'gods') is not included in your options, and cannot honestly answer your poll...

My "problem" is when people confidently try to pigeonhole atheists.

This is not, after all, rocket surgery.
 
Poorly formulated "poll;" some mythologies have a single god, some have a handful, some hundreds and some have thousands.
 
ynot said:
Your lack of belief in a god or gods seems to me to be adequately covered by - "Atheist type A – I neither believe nor disbelieve a god actually exists".

Follow: "I do not believe in a god" isn't negatively affected by adding "nor do I disbelieve in a god". In fact if you did disbelieve in a god then you couldn't say "I simply do not believe in a god".
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Your "seeming" is inadequate, and does not accurately (or honestly) reflect that I simply do not believe in a 'god'; in your 'god'; nor yet in any 'gods'.

You conflate two positions.

"I do not disbelieve" is not the same as "I do not believe".
 
The Big Dog said:
Great poll!

Reminds me of one of my favorite songs from our youth.

Jesus loves me this I know, for the bible tells me so...
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"♪♫Jeebas loves the Suthun Babdists,
All the Suthun Babdists of the world...
White and white and white and white,
They feel precious in his sight,
Jeebas loves the Suthun Babdists of the World!"♪♫
 
Peregrinus said:
Poorly formulated "poll;" some mythologies have a single god, some have a handful, some hundreds and some have thousands.
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"A god" can be one of thousands. If you don't believe in at least "a god" then you can't believe in thousands.
 
Slowvehicle said:
Your "seeming" is inadequate, and does not accurately (or honestly) reflect that I simply do not believe in a 'god'; in your 'god'; nor yet in any 'gods'.

You conflate two positions.
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Associating two positions is not conflating them.

Slowvehicle said:
"I do not disbelieve" is not the same as "I do not believe".
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I agree. But . . .
ynot said:
Follow: "I do not believe in a god" isn't negatively affected by adding "nor do I disbelieve in a god". In fact if you did disbelieve in a god then you couldn't say "I simply do not believe in a god".
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In other words, if you only or simply "do not believe" then be default you don't disbelieve either.

FYI - I voted "Atheist type C – I know a god doesn't actually exist"
 
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You can say I can't "know" that there is no god, but I can say that I know the word "god" refers to a fictional creature in a fairy tale.

I can say that I know there is no jabberwocky, so I can also say I know there is no god. The word is meaningless outside the story.
 
ynot said:
That's why I said "No scientific method" and “No scientific reason". By "scientific" I mean "scientific method" not "scientists".
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But then you are asking, what do you believe but don't use scientific reasoning when scientific reasoning is what many of us base our conclusions (beliefs) on.
 
Slowvehicle said:
Had you intended to subsume all of what is actually atheism (A-theism, that is, "without 'god' ") you might have included a definition of the state of actually being without a belief in 'god' (or 'gods'). As it is, the type of atheist that simply does not have a belief in 'god' (or 'gods') is not included in your options, and cannot honestly answer your poll...

My "problem" is when people confidently try to pigeonhole atheists.

This is not, after all, rocket surgery.
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That's why I felt like I got my choice of B and C, with no category left over for you folks, which is particularly unfair because it's usually the largest group.
 
Slowvehicle said:
"♪♫Jeebas loves the Suthun Babdists,
All the Suthun Babdists of the world...
White and white and white and white,
They feel precious in his sight,
Jeebas loves the Suthun Babdists of the World!"♪♫
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Wow. What was that nonsense?
 
ehcks said:
You can say I can't "know" that there is no god, but I can say that I know the word "god" refers to a fictional creature in a fairy tale.

I can say that I know there is no jabberwocky, so I can also say I know there is no god. The word is meaningless outside the story.
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By that argument you can't say "I know there is no Santa or Tooth Fairy" either.
 
Pup said:
Now, now. There are black Southern Baptists. They just need to sit ----------> over there.

Funny real headline. Once a chauffeur, always a chauffeur: Southern Baptists invite black Baptist leader to drive home message on race.
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Inorite?

There are, in fact, Suthun Babdists (now) with dark skin...but I am old, and remember when SBC churches displayed the xian flag, the USA flag, and the battle flag of the confederacy in the sanctuaries.

"THIS do in remembrance of me..."
 
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If I had put “Atheist type A - "No belief in a god"” (as I did initially when constructing the poll) then some would have complained “What about a choice for those that don't have a disbelieve in a god?”. By changing it to “I neither believe nor disbelieve a god actually exists” it covers both “I don't have a belief in a god” and “I don't have a disbelief in a god” without one negatively affecting the other. This is the default atheist position that all people are born with. Default atheism isn't just no belief in a god, it's no disbelief as well.
 
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