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Do you believe there is some form of self-conscious life after death?

Do you believe there is some form of self-conscious life after death?

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ynot said:
Some believe that consciousness isn't merely the product of a blood-fed grey walnut in the skull. What say you to them?
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I can't see how consciousness could be anything other than the "product of a blood-fed grey" brain.
 
Craig B said:
I voted no. I see the mind brain dependence argument as utterly irrefutable. If the brain ceases to exist, as it does after death, then the survival of a conscious personality is out of the question.
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I agree.
 
ynot said:
Thanks to those that have voted so far. Disappointing that some have commented but haven't voted.
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Speaking of beliefs, how do you know? Not everyone has to cluck about the fact that they laid a vote.
 
HansMustermann said:
Speaking of beliefs, how do you know? Not everyone has to cluck about the fact that they laid a vote.
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No beliefs required. Click/Tap any of the of votes submitted numbers shown in the poll form and you will see who "laid" the votes and what they "clucked" for.
 
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Thor 2 said:
Perhaps your should have put it on a scale like Richards Dawkins one of 1 to 7. I would put myself at 6.99.
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Nah. I agree with Kid Eager. "Do you believe?" is strictly a yes/no thing.
 
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HansMustermann said:
Ah, reincarnation... or as I like to call it, the soap opera theology. You get shot in the head on NCIS, you get to star on Rizolli And Isles next year. And if you've been really good, it might even be a better role ;)
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Not necessarily reincarnation, the question also encompasses the traditional Abrahamic faith belief in a life after death, in heaven (or wherever).
 
JayUtah said:
The Dunning-Kruger effect is, as I understand it, considered a form, manifestation, or symptom of narcissism, so we're probably in agreement.
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Doesn't Dunning-Kruger also work for the more knowledgable people? They tend to under-estimate their own results. I don't think narcissism has anything to do with it, since the effect applies to most people.
 
zooterkin said:
Not necessarily reincarnation, the question also encompasses the traditional Abrahamic faith belief in a life after death, in heaven (or wherever).
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Ah, sorry for not being clear. That was in answer to Thor's bringing up reincarnation, and by the sound of it the Buddhist version (or close enough for government work.) Had nothing to do with the OP poll.
 
JayUtah said:
That may be true, but it's not part of Dunning and Kruger's landmark findings.
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Well, I don't think they actually claimed a link to narcissism, which is a very specific disorder. It's just that the students who knew the least overestimated their knowledge the most, when asked what grade they expect. Correlating with other disorders was AFAIK not a part of the test.

I suspect I can see how one would call it "narcissism" in the non-medical vernacular meaning, though.
 
JayUtah said:
That may be true, but it's not part of Dunning and Kruger's landmark findings.
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Oh, I think it quite definitely is part of their findings that the most able self-underestimate. From Dunning and Kruger's paper, "Unskilled and Unaware of it...", section headed "The Burden of Expertise":

"Although our emphasis has been on the miscalibration of incompetent individuals, along the way we discovered that highly competent individuals also show some systematic bias in their self-appraisals. Across the four sets of studies, participants in the top quartile tended to underestimate their ability and test performance relative to their peers, Zs=-5.66 and -4.77, respectively, ps<0.0001."

It's also quite clear from their data that the top quartile underestimate their own performance, at least in relative terms, and it's suggested that this is due to an inability to comprehend the level of incompetence some people are capable of.

Dave
 
Surely in this context, "to believe" means "to accept something as true IN THE ABSENCE OF EVIDENCE!" Who here can honestly say that he believes in anything? I sure & hell hope I don't.

And by evidence, I mean FACTS, those stubborn things that won't go away, in this case, things that can only be explained by the existence of a soul. Or any other sooperdoopernatchurl thang some pack of blockheads thrusts in our faces and insists on being taken seriously.

Bah.
 
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