Trump runs for POTUS / Trumped Up! Part IV

[Ladewig]

For a campaign that Trump said would turn traditional blue states red, he sure is putting a lot of red states in play. The latest is Missouri. Latest poll has Clinton and Trump tied In Missouri.

Remember, just a few months ago when Trump said he was going to change the entire dynamic of the usual race and how he was going to win Michigan, Pennsylvania and even New Jersey?

I remember the beginning when he thought he had a shot at California.

 

[Stacko]

Clinton leads Donald by 12 points in Reuters/Ipsos poll

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Do you think 5th floor office space in a 58-story tower at 725 Fifth Avenue in Manhattan is going to look like that picture for very long? It was obviously in the middle of a remodeling. This isn't a warehouse in Newark we're talking about. Going from that picture to luxurious office space could be done for less than two months' rent.

Alternate reality: The construction funds ran out leaving the building's interior unfinished.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

There's one poor shmoe in that picture. One. It's not like the office was the nerve center of the campaign at that time.

Given a 12 yr old is the co-chair of a Colorado office and given Trump has little to no ground game, that could very well be the NY nerve center.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Coulter cranks out a book, In Trump We Trust. No doubt it's recycled liberal bashing. The woman sees an opportunity and pounces.

 

[acbytesla]

Alternate reality: The construction funds ran out leaving the building's interior unfinished.

What I think is funny is the Trump campaign's response. Supposedly, they billed the campaign for two additional floors in anticipation of increased staff. It sounds like they have two empty floors that they decided to bill the campaign for simply because they could.

 

[Trebuchet]

I hate Trump as much as anybody, but for him..or Hilary..to take comericials flights when running for president is ridiculous.

Correct. Presidential campaigns always have their own airplane. Probably "wet-leased", meaning pilots and maintenance are still the responsibility of the leasing company. What's unusual about Trump is he already had the airplane. My guess is the campaign is wet-leasing it from the Trump organization. That should be at normal market rates or it may be an in-kind illegal contribution.

Of course, if Trump owns the airplane as his personal property, all bets are off. I think that's unlikely. It's probably a corporate asset.

 

[Puppycow]

And yet that's what Nate Silver said. Trump closed the gap by 2 percent.

I see that you have failed to address the moving of goalposts, your failure to read and/or understand the article - what a shock

Clinton leads Donald by 12 points in Reuters/Ipsos poll

And this is why I wasn't concerned that some of the polls showed Trump "closing the gap". The polls are going to fluctuate. We should expect that. They typically have margins of error of 3 or 4 per cent. So they would fluctuate even if the race isn't actually changing. 12 points probably means the error went in the opposite direction this time. It's a bit of an outlier.

Here is another poll that was just released. This one is interesting because it has a much larger sample size than most polls, over 17,000 and a smaller margin of error, only 1.1%:

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...ers-clinton-maintains-lead-poll-shows-n636061

This one has Clinton up by 8 in a two-way race or 5 in a 4-way, which is about where it had been. The large sample size also makes this poll more accurate. So probably the real state of the race is still fundamentally about the same as it was a week ago. Personally I don't believe that Johnson and Stein are going to get as many votes in swing states on Election Day as polls suggest.

 

[Jrrarglblarg]

I've worked for more than a dozen campaigns. And they all have been some office like that. Absolutely nothing is finished. I seriously doubt that even especially Trump would bother to spend the money or time to finish any of it. You make do.

In my town the little glass front stores on mainstreet usually end up home to the county office for one party or candidate ground effort or another. Haven't yet this year, but when they do it's lights, water and locks, no frills and certainly not prime decor real estate show condition. Signage is temporary and disposable materials, desks are salvage/thrift/donor/rental mix depending on who is campaigning and one I went to for an event had no hardline phones - the entire office was volunteers using their own cell phones. After the film and talk we each had a list of phone numbers to work over for some stupid script. It wasn't a very effective effort and its thing didn't pass in the election. But it was actual grass roots effort. It wasn't "Jose for mayor" renting desks from "Jose's Rent To Own" and pocketing cash win or lose.

 

[acbytesla]

In my town the little glass front stores on mainstreet usually end up home to the county office for one party or candidate ground effort or another. Haven't yet this year, but when they do it's lights, water and locks, no frills and certainly not prime decor real estate show condition. Signage is temporary and disposable materials, desks are salvage/thrift/donor/rental mix depending on who is campaigning and one I went to for an event had no hardline phones - the entire office was volunteers using their own cell phones. After the film and talk we each had a list of phone numbers to work over for some stupid script. It wasn't a very effective effort and its thing didn't pass in the election. But it was actual grass roots effort. It wasn't "Jose for mayor" renting desks from "Jose's Rent To Own" and pocketing cash win or lose.

Sounds about right.

 

[Bob001]

A lengthy but fascinating exploration in Mother Jones of the origins of Trumpism. Many Trumpers see it this way:

You are patiently standing in the middle of a long line stretching toward the horizon, where the American Dream awaits. But as you wait, you see people cutting in line ahead of you. Many of these line-cutters are black—beneficiaries of affirmative action or welfare. Some are career-driven women pushing into jobs they never had before. Then you see immigrants, Mexicans, Somalis, the Syrian refugees yet to come. As you wait in this unmoving line, you're being asked to feel sorry for them all. You have a good heart. But who is deciding who you should feel compassion for? Then you see President Barack Hussein Obama waving the line-cutters forward. He's on their side. In fact, isn't he a line-cutter too? How did this fatherless black guy pay for Harvard? As you wait your turn, Obama is using the money in your pocket to help the line-cutters. He and his liberal backers have removed the shame from taking. The government has become an instrument for redistributing your money to the undeserving. It's not your government anymore; it's theirs.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/trump-white-blue-collar-supporters

 

[SezMe]

Trump cancels campaign events: is he sick or is he sad?

Look at the hand in the "photo".

Bwahawhawhawhaw......

 

[SezMe]

A lengthy but fascinating exploration in Mother Jones of the origins of Trumpism. Many Trumpers see it this way:

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/08/trump-white-blue-collar-supporters

I didn't read the link so I'll respond only to the paragraph you showed.

What is left out of that is the centuries of some of those line-jumpers being at the back of the line permanently while those whiners jumped ahead.

 

[Foolmewunz]

And.... he's back in New Hampshire on Thursday.

What's with his fascination with NH? Does he have some FotL polls there that tell him the Lost Tribe of Angry Old White Men has been found? Has he got polls from four months ago when he still had a chance, there?

 

[Travis]

South Carolina is now a tie. South Carolina!

 

[The Great Zaganza]

South Carolina is now a tie. South Carolina!

That's in the 4candidate polling.
Interestingly, it seems that Johnson is siphoning votes of Trump (when compared to the 2 candidate poll).
But it's within the margin of error.

 

[Puppycow]

He says ridiculous nonsense every day, but this one one stuck out as particularly appalling to me:

Trump suggests Chicago could solve crime problem 'in a week' if cops got tougher

Presidential candidate Donald Trump said Chicago's crime problem could be solved by police "being very much tougher" than they are now, adding that during a Chicago visit he met with "very top police" and was told the problem could be stopped in a week with tough tactics.

In an interview Monday night on the Fox News show "The O'Reilly Factor," Trump reiterated his past comments about Chicago violence being "out of control" and added that the Chicago police force does not have "the right people in charge."

Fox host Bill O'Reilly asked Trump how to solve the city's crime problem, with homicides up nearly 50 percent.

"How? By being very much tougher than they are right now. They're right now not tough. I could tell you this very long and quite boring story. But when I was in Chicago, I got to meet a couple of very top police. I said, 'How do you stop this? How do you stop this? If you were put in charge — to a specific person — do you think you could stop it?' He said, 'Mr. Trump, I'd be able to stop it in one week.' And I believed him 100 percent," Trump said.

When O'Reilly asked whether the unnamed officer told him how, Trump said: "No, he wants to use tough police tactics, which is OK when you have people being killed."

Easy answers to tough problems. "The cops just need to get tougher!" "We could solve this problem in a week!"

I mean, come on. Does he really believe this?

 

[Andy_Ross]

I am sure they could given enough manpower and ruthlessness the SS managed to do it.
Mass arrests, big camps, detention without trial, easy.

 

[The Don]

He says ridiculous nonsense every day, but this one one stuck out as particularly appalling to me:

Trump suggests Chicago could solve crime problem 'in a week' if cops got tougher



Easy answers to tough problems. "The cops just need to get tougher!" "We could solve this problem in a week!"

I mean, come on. Does he really believe this?

Doesn't matter. His supporters do and I suppose he, or the campaign, think that enough other people do to make a difference.

Regardless of the levels of crime (which I understand is at long-term lows), fear of crime is at very high levels (possibly as a result of lower crime levels - if there's less crime, you have more time on your hands to be frightened of it). Frightened people want solutions and if that solution is simple in concept and apparently quick to implement then so much the better.

Frightened people don't want to hear that the solution is a complicated multi-agency programme to tackle poverty and social exclusion which may take years or decades to come to fruition and where there is no guarantee of success. Instead they went to "lock them up" or intoduce "zero tolerance" because even though it may be ineffective (or even counterproductive) at least *something* is being done.

 

[catsmate]

In a recent post in some thread, I commented that I was concerned about Trump's debt to overseas creditors. Someone kindly noted that his big three creditors were Goldman-Sachs, Deutsche Bank, and the Bank of China, I think.

Now it appears his debt to Deutsche Bank presents a major problem. See, Deutsche Bank has been fighting hard with US regulators

OK, so what would happen if Trump were president? People complain about donations to the Clinton Foundation in return for favors, but here is a case where the bank has Trump by the balls.

I would expect his supporters to utterly ignore the issue.