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The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017

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MRC_Hans said:
Who is not willing to admit what? READ my post Bjarne. Where do I say the extra mass is?

Hans
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Oh, and it seems you ignored this.

Bjarne you are like someone who has barely learned to ride a bike, is are now trying to tell an experienced taxi-driver how he should handle his car.

Hans
 
halleyscomet said:
We can't even think "once" about your theory until you provide us the math to support it.

If you dedicated a 10th of the energy you put into this thread to instead working out the equations to support your theory you might actually get a few physicists to give you the time of day. You could at least get a fair hearing instead of being justifiably dismissed as a crank.

Your laziness in developing your own theory makes a fascinating ménage when combined with the defeatism you demonstrate whenever anyone challenges you to do the work and the raw egotism you exhibit that your fractionally expressed theory will gain traction. It's almost as if you don't want to be proven right by the scientific community at large.
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University math is necessary to prove a new/ modified theory of mercuries perihelion anomaly as well as explaining the cause of flyby anomalies.

The easy part is to explain what lay behind the new theory

See it this way, SR will be the first to fall apart, and here I already have provided the necessary math.

I am sure many will be interested what I so fare “only” claim is wrong with GR, - after SR first have come down.

You know when Moses doesn’t come to the mountain then the mountain must come to Mosses.
So as you can see, I don’t need to go to universities and ask for mathematical assistance, because one day the universes will come to me.
I am not trained to handle university math, and I am right now not sure whether I am willing or have time to learn it either. Not because I am lazy or stupid but because I have other things to do..

So right now in short we have...
The theory that will bring down SR is finish; nothing more important can be added. This part is really easy math.

It’s also easy to understand that if the ruler extends by perihelion, the distance / radius to the Sun will decrease. Which mean gravity by perihelion must be stronger than expected..
I am sure this is the key to unlock both the perihelion anomalies as well as flyby anomalies.

Furthermore there is a deceleration aspect to subtract. It is not quit easy math, but can be done without software, I believe.

I am not so busy to do this last calculation, - things takes time, let now SR fall apart first, after that I believe many are willing to contribute also to bring down the last load of brainwashed GR rubbish down.

So you cannot change the fact, the first part is done, - that last part I have the canon balls, I only need a canon. smoke a cigar in the meantime fellow, we still have plenty of time..

Also remember even Einstein got help to his math (from Marc Planck, - its not a shame )
 
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halleyscomet said:
We can't even think "once" about your theory until you provide us the math to support it.

If you dedicated a 10th of the energy you put into this thread to instead working out the equations to support your theory you might actually get a few physicists to give you the time of day. You could at least get a fair hearing instead of being justifiably dismissed as a crank.

Your laziness in developing your own theory makes a fascinating ménage when combined with the defeatism you demonstrate whenever anyone challenges you to do the work and the raw egotism you exhibit that your fractionally expressed theory will gain traction. It's almost as if you don't want to be proven right by the scientific community at large.
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By the way Another Dane, - HC Ørsted did not provide any math at all, it first came decades later by Maxwell
 
Bjarne said:
University math is necessary to prove a new/ modified theory of mercuries perihelion anomaly as well as explaining the cause of flyby anomalies.

The easy part is to explain what lay behind the new theory

See it this way, SR will be the first to fall apart, and here I already have provided the necessary math.

I am sure many will be interested what I so fare “only” claim is wrong with GR, - after SR first have come down.

You know when Moses doesn’t come to the mountain then the mountain must come to Mosses.
So as you can see, I don’t need to go to universities and ask for mathematical assistance, because one day the universes will come to me.
I am not trained to handle university math, and I am right now sure whether I am willing or have time to learn it either. Not because I am lazy or stupid but because I have other things to do..

So right now in short we have...
The theory that will bring down SR is finish; nothing more important can be added. This part is really easy math.

It’s also easy to understand that if the ruler extends by perihelion, the distance / radius to the Sun will decrease. Which mean gravity by perihelion must be stronger than expected..
I am sure this is the key to unlock both the perihelion anomalies as well as flyby anomalies.

Furthermore there is a deceleration aspect to subtract. It is not quit easy math, but can be done without software, I believe.

I am not so busy to do this last calculation, - things takes time, let now SR fall apart first, after that I believe many are willing to contribute also to bring down the last load of brainwashed GR rubbish down.

So you cannot change the fact, the first part is done, - that last part I have the canon balls, I only need a canon. smoke a cigar in the meantime fellow, we still have plenty of time..
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That's a bit pretentious isn't it? If Moses doesn't want to go to the mountain, it has to go to him in order for him to get the ten commandments?

If that is where the commandments will be given it is Moses's responsibility to go there. The alternative is that he doesn't get the damn things.
 
MRC_Hans said:
A is in fact seeing the universe through the gravitational lens, and his image will be slightly more distorted than B's.
Hans
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I was trying to extract the only essence of you last post, and this is what you see above.

A or B's reality, is not only a gravitational lens effect, but rather the real world.

It’s a mathematical fact, that if A and B must agree that the speed c, is the "same" for both, but time is not, - the ruler must be a variant.

It’s astonishing that a whole world can fall on their knees, for such illogical picture of the world that no one ever has understood, simply because it is total nonsense..
 
Bjarne said:
University math is necessary to prove a new/ modified theory of mercuries perihelion anomaly as well as explaining the cause of flyby anomalies.

The easy part is to explain what lay behind the new theory

See it this way, SR will be the first to fall apart, and here I already have provided the necessary math.

I am sure many will be interested what I so fare “only” claim is wrong with GR, - after SR first have come down.

You know when Moses doesn’t come to the mountain then the mountain must come to Mosses.
So as you can see, I don’t need to go to universities and ask for mathematical assistance, because one day the universes will come to me.
I am not trained to handle university math, and I am right now not sure whether I am willing or have time to learn it either. Not because I am lazy or stupid but because I have other things to do..

So right now in short we have...
The theory that will bring down SR is finish; nothing more important can be added. This part is really easy math.

It’s also easy to understand that if the ruler extends by perihelion, the distance / radius to the Sun will decrease. Which mean gravity by perihelion must be stronger than expected..
I am sure this is the key to unlock both the perihelion anomalies as well as flyby anomalies.

Furthermore there is a deceleration aspect to subtract. It is not quit easy math, but can be done without software, I believe.

I am not so busy to do this last calculation, - things takes time, let now SR fall apart first, after that I believe many are willing to contribute also to bring down the last load of brainwashed GR rubbish down.

So you cannot change the fact, the first part is done, - that last part I have the canon balls, I only need a canon. smoke a cigar in the meantime fellow, we still have plenty of time..

Also remember even Einstein got help to his math (from Marc Planck, - its not a shame )
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It's impressive the amount of excuses you come up with for your mathematical laziness. Are you like this in the rest of your life as well, constantly failing through lack of effort and then making up excuses instead of manning up and learning from your mistakes?
 
Bjarne said:
I was trying to extract the only essence of you last post, and this is what you see above.

A or B's reality, is not only a gravitational lens effect, but rather the real world.

It’s a mathematical fact, that if A and B must agree that the speed c, is the "same" for both, but time is not, - the ruler must be a variant.

It’s astonishing that a whole world can fall on their knees, for such illogical picture of the world that no one ever has understood, simply because it is total nonsense..
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Ahh. Now we come to the crux of the matter. You think you can topple relativity because you consider it irrational, as it is clearly beyond your grasp. I know Creationists who feel the same way about evolution. Because they can't understand it they conclude it must not be possible.

It must take a lot of the wonder and mystery out if life, refusing to accept something just because you have trouble understanding it. I knew a guy in college whose simple emotional state lead him to dismiss the complexities of the women he tried to date, using rather crass terms to describe what he clearly thought was an affectation on their part. He remained a virgin until his senior year, when he date raped an "abstinence only purity ball" girl. She stayed with him because she considered herself "despoiled" after he took her virginity. It was an exceedingly Biblical way to procure a wife, but then, it was a religious university.
 
Bjarne said:
I was trying to extract the only essence of you last post, and this is what you see above.
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If you feel that your long post merits only this reply, ...fine.

A or B's reality, is not only a gravitational lens effect, but rather the real world.
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Of course it is reality. Things look different when observed under different conditions. Does that surprise you?

It’s a mathematical fact, that if A and B must agree that the speed c, is the "same" for both, but time is not, - the ruler must be a variant.
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Nope. That would be a fact in a linear, pure Newtonian universe. But the whole point is that this universe is different.

It’s astonishing that a whole world can fall on their knees, for such illogical picture of the world that no one ever has understood, simply because it is total nonsense..
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Well Bjarne, the fact is that even if you don't understand it, other people do.

Hans
 
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JeanTate said:
Bjarne said:
Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed, much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

How can I say that ?

Simple because the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion.. This mean we have to open a whole new chapter of science, because even a chicken brain have IQ enough to figure out that there also must be acceleration in that dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect
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Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed is very robust, compared with Bjarne's ideas which are much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

How can I say that ?

Simple because the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion.. This mean we have to open a whole new chapter of science change nothing in the prevailing understanding, because even a chicken brain have IQ enough to figure out that there also must be acceleration in that is no dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect (a good example of poor experimental science, combined with failures to understand basic physics)
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Why is my opinion better than yours, Bjarne?
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Bjarne, it seems you did not respond to this post of mine, from some time ago.

May I ask why?

Here's the key question again, in bold: Why is my opinion better than yours, Bjarne?
 
erwinl said:
That's a bit pretentious isn't it? If Moses doesn't want to go to the mountain, it has to go to him in order for him to get the ten commandments?

If that is where the commandments will be given it is Moses's responsibility to go there. The alternative is that he doesn't get the damn things.
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Another of Bjarne's mangled proverbs. Has nothing to do with Moses, btw.

Hans
 
halleyscomet said:
It's impressive the amount of excuses you come up with for your mathematical laziness. Are you like this in the rest of your life as well, constantly failing through lack of effort and then making up excuses instead of manning up and learning from your mistakes?
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Its human to be lazy
Also animals are lazy
(and most of all socialist)
 
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MRC_Hans said:
If you feel that your long post merits only this reply, ...fine.

Of course it is reality. Things look different when observed under different conditions. Does that surprise you?

Nope. That would be a fact in a linear, pure Newtonian universe. But the whole point is that this universe is different.

Well Bjarne, the fact is that even if you don't understand it, other people do.

Hans
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Boiled down to the content of a nut shell you cannot account for the fact that A and B cannot agree about the distance to the star (that in the thought experiment) once emitted a photon (or two) hitting A and B.

First you tried to with a foolish explanation that the path the photon(s) traveled was not the same, - and now you believe idiotic lensing effect is the solution, which also is also nothing but just bla bla bla.

Nothing but nonsense.
 
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halleyscomet said:
It must take a lot of the wonder and mystery out if life, refusing to accept something just because you have trouble understanding it. .
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Here is the answer to how it was possible to brainwash a whole world.

One day you will understand a hell lot of innocent student pretend they understand something what really is full of contradictory illogical nonsense - just because if not they dont, - they will be considered as outsiders and even stupid. Everyone honest to one self, will know this is true

Just take a look at Hans latest answer, there are no logic in any of these post, just illogical bla bla bla lensing, and more bla bla - different path - bal bla bla -- that make no sence at all.

Intolerant mass hypnotic brainwash is a dangerous thing and a disgrace of the human race
 
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Bjarne said:
Comrade, first at all it's a question of understanding new physic.
Energy is always accompanied by mass.

So a stone falling down from heaven will gain mass /energy due to speed, but also lose mass/energy due to lose of potential energy..

You cannot separate energy and mass in these phenomenas.
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And nowhere have you demonstrated that potential energy increases mass.

Burden to you Bjarne
 
Dancing David said:
Burden to you Bjarne,
More unsupported assertion on your part.
You were unable to prove this before.
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I have shown you the path out of total darkness, and also which evidence you will see, - step by step, - as well as where to look for evidence in the furture .

The universe is LOGIC, and everyone’s grandmother can understand it.
 
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