General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

[aleCcowaN]

Those pictures are hilarious. What happened the bone crusher machine break that day? I see a lot of femurs lying around....What was it one bone crusher machine for tens of millions of bodies broke down that Day, LMAO.

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Your LMAO sounds a bit rehearsed as from your own post it is obvious you don't know trochanters from tubercles nor have any notion on how objects of different sizes and densities stratify in different conditions, like rain, fire, being dumped, etc.

 

[HDenier]

Bardèche was an apologist and hagipographer of the nazi regime. Furthermore his books are full of factual inaccuracies.

This guy has no credit at all outside the deniers circles.

Jesus Christ could be endorsing this guy Bardèche and you'd still not believe him. The Nuremberg trials were nothing but a Jewish VINDICTIVE evil witch trial. It has been exposed by a few people who stood for truth. John Adams would have condemned the trials after seeing how much influence the Jews had a part in it....Humanity suffered a great defeat if those trials are looked upon as being judicially righteous. They were a sham and a shame...Don't the trials have 6 paid witnesses? Six witnesses and what a half hour devoted to the "holocaust"...Totally a shame.....Another holohoax story proven by the revisionist to be not from God but fro Satan himself.....

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[LemmyCaution]

You really think those pictures are authentic? ALL of a sudden after 20+ years of studying this topic This is the first time I have ever seen this picture? The hoaxers would NEVER have stopped this picture from day one from not coming out, FROM DAY ONE.... That picture is a joke....

First, your reply is not responsive to what I asked you. I asked whether, if Matthew Ellard can demonstrate that these photos are authentic, are you agreeing that they show your claim about the bodies to be in error. Please answer what I asked you.

Second, I don't know what to say to your admitting that these photos are new to you. Your not having seen these photos speaks to the quality of your study, not the provenance or availability of these photos. OTOH, I have seen them - and ones like this http://collections.yadvashem.org/photosarchive/en-us/96237.html -many, many times. One of the two photos which Matthew Ellard posted I believe I first saw here and has been available here for a number of years. I can't recall where else. You didn't see it - but it has been available.

Third, "The picture is a joke" is not an argument but simply your belief.

 

[HDenier]

You know very well why the 750,000 aren't there. They have been burned.

Where are the ashes. Let's see, do the math, 6lbs of ash per body times 750,000 hmmm that's a lot of ash.....My OK Google says its:
4,500,000 lbs of ash, 2,250 TONS of ash...nowhere to be seen....where are the teeth? let's see use minimal 20 per body times 750,000 That's 15 MILLION TEETH and yet the Treblinka dig done by a group of deaf dumb and blind archeologist nets us ONE sharks tooth....Hmmm what is wrong with this picture. Where is my friend Gringuaz now?
What makes this all the more sad is you all believe the Treblinka hoax..Now that is funny...or sad....

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[LemmyCaution]

Those pictures are hilarious. What happened the bone crusher machine break that day? I see a lot of femurs lying around....What was it one bone crusher machine for tens of millions of bodies broke down that Day, LMAO.

My sense of humor does not extend to photos of dead people's bones littering a killing site.

 

[HDenier]

Bardèche was an apologist and hagipographer of the nazi regime. Furthermore his books are full of factual inaccuracies.

This guy has no credit at all outside the deniers circles.

If he had no credit then why did he go to jail? Can someone go to jail for not believing in God? But you can go to jail exposing the holohoax.. Could NEVER figure that out.....The reason?
When you expose the holohoax you expose the Jews and their lying. You see what Gringuaz was talking about as to their false history. Of course that puts a bad light on the Jews so the next best thing is to CENSOR or throw one in Jail for God forbid the truth catches on to the public.

The Jews hate one thing and thats being exposed as liars when it comes to their baby, the holohoax. BILLIONS of dollars rest on this lie for the Jews and the Jew wannabees....BILLIONS.......

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[LemmyCaution]

Where are the ashes. Let's see, do the math, 6lbs of ash per body times 750,000 hmmm that's a lot of ash.....My OK Google says its:
4,500,000 lbs of ash, 2,250 TONS of ash...nowhere to be seen....where are the teeth? let's see use minimal 20 per body times 750,000 That's 15 MILLION TEETH and yet the Treblinka dig done by a group of deaf dumb and blind archeologist nets us ONE sharks tooth....Hmmm what is wrong with this picture. Where is my friend Gringuaz now?
What makes this all the more sad is you all believe the Treblinka hoax..Now that is funny...or sad....

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Please show us the calculations that you've done that contrast with those of Roberto Muehlenkamp here, this being the third time I have linked to this page without your replying (this link mentions generally what became of teeth in mass graves in the death camps). Elsewhere Muehlenkamp comments on a photo of local peasants who hunted treasure at the Treblinka site after the war that the treasure hunters took "golden rings and teeth of Jews. At their feet lie skulls and limb bones of those gassed." The teeth came from the grounds where the Jews had been cremated.

 

[Matthew Ellard]

ALL of a sudden after 20+ years of studying this topic This is the first time I have ever seen this picture?

The picture is from 1945 from the Polish investigation headed by Justice Lukaszkiewicz for the State Prosecutor of the District Court in Siedlce, Poland.

Are you saying you are totally unaware of this forensic investigation into Treblinka or that you think all Polish people are liars?

 

[LeoMajor]

You really think those pictures are authentic? ALL of a sudden after 20+ years of studying this topic This is the first time I have ever seen this picture? The hoaxers would NEVER have stopped this picture from day one from not coming out, FROM DAY ONE.... That picture is a joke....

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That photo was taken by Polish investigators at the Treblinka site in late 1945. It is as legitimate as they come.

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Breach of Rule 12 removed.

 

[Degeneve]

Jesus Christ could be endorsing this guy Bardèche and you'd still not believe him. The Nuremberg trials were nothing but a Jewish VINDICTIVE evil witch trial. It has been exposed by a few people who stood for truth. John Adams would have condemned the trials after seeing how much influence the Jews had a part in it....Humanity suffered a great defeat if those trials are looked upon as being judicially righteous. They were a sham and a shame...Don't the trials have 6 paid witnesses? Six witnesses and what a half hour devoted to the "holocaust"...Totally a shame.....Another holohoax story proven by the revisionist to be not from God but fro Satan himself.....

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To be clear Bardèche was not even Christian. I therefore wonder why Jesus of Nazareth would have endorsed a guy who supported fascism and nazi Germany (which are at the complete opposite of his message as related by the gospels) and who denied the murder of 5.2 to 5.9 million of persons for the sole reason they were as Jew as Jesus of Nazareth was himself.
You must be kidding us…
Who said that “the trials have 6 paid witnesses”? Bardèche? If yes you can safely bet this is a lie.
Finally you have no clue – and me too – of what John Adams would have said or done if he had been confronted to what happened during WW II and to the large scale murders of nazi Germany which led to the deliberate death of millions of Jews, Slaves, Gypsies and other people.

 

[Degeneve]

If he had no credit then why did he go to jail? Can someone go to jail for not believing in God? But you can go to jail exposing the holohoax.. Could NEVER figure that out.....The reason?
When you expose the holohoax you expose the Jews and their lying. You see what Gringuaz was talking about as to their false history. Of course that puts a bad light on the Jews so the next best thing is to CENSOR or throw one in Jail for God forbid the truth catches on to the public.

The Jews hate one thing and thats being exposed as liars when it comes to their baby, the holohoax. BILLIONS of dollars rest on this lie for the Jews and the Jew wannabees....BILLIONS.......

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Bardèche has been sentenced to one year prison for apology of war crimes and not because he did not believe in the holocaust. This sentence was commuted by the French president and he finally stayed three week in jail.
This has nothing to do with the Jews.

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[LemmyCaution]

Hey HDenier,

I am posting a link here to Roberto Muehlenkamp’s discussion of the 1945 Polish investigation of Treblnka led by Examining Judge Łukaszkiewicz for your benefit, in case you are also not familiar with this very important investigation of the Treblinka site. The article I’ve linked to contains extracts quoted from the report made by Łukaszkiewicz, describing important findings of his investigation of the Treblinka site.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Matthew Ellard, your photo with the boards in the pit and with the figure standing to the right, is shown here to be from 1943, not 1945. I have seen it elsewhere identified as coming from Kurt Franz's album, of which I don't have a complete copy, and am checking to verify. On this better scan, you can see the condition of the pit; it doesn't look like the condition of graves in 1945 due to the fact that the content of the graves at the site post-liberation had been largely reduced to cremation remains, except maybe for some corpses in wax-fat transformation. Also, on this scan you can make out more detail in the figure's overcoat than in the scan you posted, and his coat appears to be that of a member of the SS-Wachmannschaft (Trawnkniki), by comparing it to photos of Wachmannschaft forces used in clearing Warsaw ghetto - not my forte, but that is what it looks like to me (someone here will be able to verify this). If the coat is that of a Trawninki, the photo could not be from the Polish investigation in 1945.

 

[Loss Leader]

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[Matthew Ellard]

Matthew Ellard, your photo with the boards in the pit and with the figure standing to the right, is shown here to be from 1943, not 1945.

Thanks Lemmy. I will be more careful in the future. I now understand it is a German photo from 1943.

 

[Hans]

Well after that last three person mini flurry of activity were there any new questions or debate tactics used? Or was it all the same old tedious questions and styles normally use by deniers?

 

[trustbutverify]

Well after that last three person mini flurry of activity were there any new questions or debate tactics used? Or was it all the same old tedious questions and styles normally use by deniers?

Somewhat more skinhead than usual.

 

[A'isha]

Somewhat more skinhead than usual.

Yeah, I think this was the first time I've seen a denier cite actual Nazi propaganda from World War II to support their denialism.

 

[BaaBaa]

My favorite "what? really??" moment was when somebody stuck up for Hans Frank.

 

[LemmyCaution]

Yeah, I think this was the first time I've seen a denier cite actual Nazi propaganda from World War II to support their denialism.

Sadly, this is old news for me. On Rodoh and other forums. I remember well a denier on Rodoh quoting Goebbels to support his views. And trying to use the Nazis' propaganda against Theodore Newman Kaufman's Germany Must Perish! to convince people of an international Jewish danger. And elsewhere quoting from Nazi pamphlets and whatnot on the Jewish character of the US government, 'cuz, you know, Jews were behind opposition to the Nazis.

Pretty much another day at the office, so to speak, except this trio seemed rather exceptionally ill informed.