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Milwaukee Riots

CNN has been caught lying about the victim's sister calling for peace.

CNN voiceover: "…with his sister calling for peace."

Victim's sister: "don't bring the violence here and the ignorance here"

CNN conveniently forgot to include the part where the victim's sister said
"Burnin down **** ain’t going to help nothin! Y’all burnin’ down **** we need in our community. Take that **** to the suburbs. Burn that **** down! We need our ****** We need our weaves. I don’t wear it. But we need it"


Nope. No liberal bias in the media.
 
A couple of problems with that idea:

1.) That requires a calculated attempt to eliminate ALL existing racial groups, aka genocide.

But there's no "cide" to it at all. No one gets killed.

2.) Some groups are far larger (and with higher birth rates to match) than other groups, currently. The resulting mixed single human race would be comprised of far more of some peoples' DNA than others' and those who had bred most irresponsibly would end up rewarded for that behavior. (some snipped for space)

But it wouldn't be irresponsible at all - it's intended and desired. Further, it doesn't matter what the outcome is, there's no particular target we want to reach, so long as it's enough of a mix that race no longer matters.

3.) Many people (from all groups) exist now, and could be assumed to exist in the future, who would not want to take part and who wish to preserve their group. What would we do, force them to pair off with someone of a different race? How far would we be willing to go to achieve this dreamed of "zero diversity" world?

You've heard of sex, right? It so popular we often use it to sell other, less popular things. It's a biological imperative. Granted, there may be a few who don't want to participate, but the vast majority absolutely enjoy it.

4.) Many people (including a LOT of nonwhites, possibly even the vast majority of them) consider fully white babies/adults to be much cuter / more desirable than mixed babies. Especially when the mix is with blacks. In the nonwhite world, light skin is prized. Light hair and eye colors are prized and seen as desirable. Among East Asians, Amerindians, Middle Easterners, etc. blacks and their associated genetic traits / appearance are seen as undesirable, generally. Even within blacks themselves, these attitudes are quite common. Light skin seen as preferable to darker skin, "good hair", skin lightening creams in Africa, etc.

Are you claiming the world is getting whiter? If not, then I'm not sure your point has any merit to it. But let's say it does. Since we aren't trying to arrive at a particular mix, if we all end up a bit lighter on average, so be it. If you think that's unlikely, just remember that to get a lighter skinned baby, the whole point is to breed with someone with lighter skin than me - but then, by definition I am darker than my partner. I don't think your math works out the way you think it will.

5.) Many of us feel we have good reason to suspect the resulting mixed humanity would be less capable of facing the challenges of the future and of technological civilization than current existing varieties of humanity are equipped to do (Whites, Jews, East Asians)

Why does that matter at all? Unless we are going to lose the top spot in the game of life here on earth, any mix of humans will do as well as any other.

Of course, the biggest issue is that this idea is just completely pie in the sky and unworkable but I know you're not proposing it in an entirely serious manner. We've both obviously heard many other people suggest it before, so I'm just using this as an opportunity to point out some issues with it.

It requires one main thing - a free flow of races between countries and the opportunity to breed. Besides, it's already happening (in the US at least). Check out the numbers from Pew: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/06/12/interracial-marriage-who-is-marrying-out/

It's a very satisfying answer to the problem: Eliminate races and you eliminate racism. But don't worry, we'll still have classism and gender discrimination to remind us of how things used to be with race.
 
CNN has been caught lying about the victim's sister calling for peace.

CNN voiceover: "…with his sister calling for peace."

Victim's sister: "don't bring the violence here and the ignorance here"

CNN conveniently forgot to include the part where the victim's sister said


Nope. No liberal bias in the media.


That's the sister of the guy who was shot, right? I feel sorry for her. You can tell she's pretty upset.

But I agree they shouldn't have cut her off just because she's a Republican. The conservative media is always trying to play down how violent Republicans really are behind all that Christian love your neighbor nonsense. They need to show these gun lovers as they really are - armed and ready to attack. CNN = Christian NeoCon News.
 
Well, you're supposed to learn that black people are people, and not just your imagined supermonsters.

I know. You're very resistant to that idea. But it's true, nonetheless.

If by "people", I assume you mean "biologically human". I don't think anyone is questioning that.
 
A couple of problems with that idea:

1.) That requires a calculated attempt to eliminate ALL existing racial groups, aka genocide.

No. That requires biology and the interplay of human hormones. There are mixed marriages/couplings among the posters here. Would you like to poll them to ask how many chose their mate via:
A) Hmmm? I think I'll pollute the white race and lead to its ultimate disappearance. Sounds like a plan.
B) Wow. Check out the butt on that guy/girl. Gonna do some serious *********** with that if I get a chance.

2.) Some groups are far larger (and with higher birth rates to match) than other groups, currently. The resulting mixed single human race would be comprised of far more of some peoples' DNA than others' and those who had bred most irresponsibly would end up rewarded for that behavior. Not to mention the fact that some groups are characterized by far more dominant traits and others are characterized by more recessive traits which means that even if the planet were comprised of exactly 3 billion whites and exactly 3 billion blacks, and nobody else existed or ever had, whites would have a legitimate basis to feel that some of their defining characteristics stood to be lost under such a proposal. It's true that light colored eyes, freckles, reddish hair and such don't disappear 100% of the time after one generation of mixing, but they *tend* to not show up and they also tend to get swamped and disappear with subsequent mixing, and at best appear in a very dulled and reduced form. This problem is only made much worse by the fact that, as previously stated, the groups with more dominant traits are currently far larger and this would just make the swamping / genetic destruction angle all the more pronounced.

This presumes that mere racial characteristics are something one wants or needs to see "preserved". Why? Sure, they're aesthetically interesting, but as an end unto itself, preserving the white race by segregating so that only whites will breed with whites is really rather repulsive. As would be locking-in East Asians>East Asians, Blacks>Blacks, Pacific Islander>Pacific Islanders. Your world limits people's individual choices. You are free to have your opinions and live your life as you want to. And I'm sure there are individuals in Asia, Africa, Europe, etc... who agree with you, emotionally if not eugenically, and we'll never really run out of whitey as a result.

3.) Many people (from all groups) exist now, and could be assumed to exist in the future, who would not want to take part and who wish to preserve their group. What would we do, force them to pair off with someone of a different race? How far would we be willing to go to achieve this dreamed of "zero diversity" world?
Those who don't want to take part are free, like you, to not mix their pure - for certain definitions of pure, of course - blood with the muskier races. Your ideas, though, propose through segregation and separation of cultures and races, that whether they agree or not, you'll have them making white babies,... for the good of the race.

4.) Many people (including a LOT of nonwhites, possibly even the vast majority of them) consider fully white babies/adults to be much cuter / more desirable than mixed babies. Especially when the mix is with blacks. In the nonwhite world, light skin is prized. Light hair and eye colors are prized and seen as desirable. Among East Asians, Amerindians, Middle Easterners, etc. blacks and their associated genetic traits / appearance are seen as undesirable, generally. Even within blacks themselves, these attitudes are quite common. Light skin seen as preferable to darker skin, "good hair", skin lightening creams in Africa, etc.

Culture. Media. Fashion. All those things are changeable, particularly if you consider something as elusive as aesthetics. In fact, in many cultures, it has nothing to do with innate aesthetic sensitivities but a perception of "white = power/wealth". I can equally say "many people, including a LOT of whites, possibly even the vast majority of them"... find mixed-race children exceptionally attractive. I know it'd play out in my demographic.

5.) Many of us feel we have good reason to suspect the resulting mixed humanity would be less capable of facing the challenges of the future and of technological civilization than current existing varieties of humanity are equipped to do (Whites, Jews, East Asians)
What many of you feel is of no consequence. What any of you can prove would be and there's no evidence that your purity-of-race theories hold any more validity than random chance. In fact, there's a lot more evidence in nature for the viability of diverse organisms. Check your own DNA. Probably not just not-all-white, but like many of us, there's a fair possibility there's some Neanderthal in there.

Of course, the biggest issue is that this idea is just completely pie in the sky and unworkable but I know you're not proposing it in an entirely serious manner. We've both obviously heard many other people suggest it before, so I'm just using this as an opportunity to point out some issues with it.
Unlike those of you proposing segregation and intra-race reproduction only, no one's actually proposing this as a plan. We're just saying, "let it happen". There will be a time in a few hundred or few thousand generations when the whole world is a nice cafe-au-lait color. You won't be around to see it, nor will I, but it doesn't actually worry me any more than when my ancient African ancestors moved to Europe and gradually turned whiter. **** happens.
 
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5.) Many of us feel we have good reason to suspect the resulting mixed humanity would be less capable of facing the challenges of the future and of technological civilization than current existing varieties of humanity are equipped to do (Whites, Jews, East Asians)

This is complete and utter claptrap.

There is absolutely NO evidence whatsoever that skin colour of itself makes a difference to a person's IQ or their ability to learn. Given the same opportunities and education from birth to adulthood, any Black person, Asian, or Native American, is capable of achieving just as great an academic level as any white person, or any other person for that matter.

While you might argue that there are, per capita, less Black doctors, lawyers, engineers and scientists in America than their are white, that is down to less opportunities being afforded them,; it is NOT down to lower IQ. The stunting of Black educational growth was still happening in the USA as recently as 50 years ago; that is only 2-3 generations back, and it will take several generations for them to fully recover from the abysmal way they have been treated in the past

The only challenge that a genetically homogeneous population might have to face, is the challenge of disease. It is human genetic diversity that has help the species to survive, and a genetic melting pot that lacks diversity would make us more vulnerable to a disease that might wipe us all out.
 
Well, honestly...anything that amounts to a local insight will do...

Ok, well, the 3 main ones from this century are...

"The Night Train"
Name given by residents. They were a special drug task force, who's job it was to swarm drug activity. Accused of unnecessary violence & planting drugs. That one got some attention because one of the cops had 10 very similar complaints. It came to a head when they beat up a guy, planted drugs on him, & then realized though he had few hits on his record, none were drug related or violent. Also, he wasn't the guy they were looking for. He got put on Duty Disability for mental issues, paranoid, depressed, etc... They gave him his guns back.

Then there are the Punishers. A cop who worked at the Academy got wind of them, started an investigation, & found what he described as a gang in the PD. Named themselves after The Punisher. Had his skull symbol on various items. He gave it to two commanders, they said they couldn't prove the gang existed, some of them got drunk one night, beat up a guy for "stealling one of their wallets". No wallet was found on him, he eas arrested but not charged. Cops circled the wagons. Acquitted at state level but convicted at federal for civil rights violations. Some got prison, some got probation.

& there's a some cops that decided roadside cavity searches were ok, at least 10 men had fingers shoved into their anus looking for drugs. The ringleader pleaded no contest. Got 2 years. His defense was it was a well known tactic on the force.
Another cop got 20 days, the other 2 got $300 fines & community service. All were fired.
 
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B) Wow. Check out the butt on that girl. Gonna do some serious *********** with that if I get a chance.

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Just for the record, my EXACT thoughts on July 14th 2002, at the Berkshire Theatre Festival when I met my wife.
 
Who exactly is oppressing black people? Whites? Asians? Hispanics? All other races? Do the other races not face any adversity? Only blacks?]

People like you.

And as you've likely noticed, it's not all that successful. Which is why I have to wonder what the point is.Much like I must wonder what the point of this thread is.

Frankly, its all BS. We have a black president in this country. We have black judges. Black Mayors. Black governors. Can you name one job a black person has never held in this country?

This is a joke.

"Well, you've got Obama, you've got Oprah...what more do you want!?"

equality.

There is no oppression TODAY of any particular race. It is all hand waving, and excuses. Frankly, its time to stop making excuses. I see a lot more racism against white people, than against blacks in todays USA.

I'm sure you do.

But findings on that are a topic for another discussion.

This article does some explaining about "white privilege" is NOT the reason for the numbers we see.

http://www.cnsnews.com/commentary/r...-privilege-not-what-holding-blacks-back-today

Jesse Lee Peterson is one of few people who I refuse to listen to, simply because he's so obviously biased. You might as well post a link from David Duke, for all the good it does.

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Well, I tried. This sort of nonsense has nothing to do with any real set of facts. So, let's just go in.
 
Well, maybe if you learn not that all cops are racists, and some police shootings of suspects who happen to be black are justified.
I know you are very resistant to that idea but is true,none the less.

Um...have I not said, repeatedly, that the shooting that lead to this was likely justified? My claim is that the officer should be treated as all other suspects are, and nothing more than that.

Have I not rejected the idea that "all cops are racist", again repeatedly? I do not think it matters, so long as the institution is.

And easy on the accusations of racism unless you can back it up with quotes from Central Scrntinzer.

He'll offer up his own, soon enough.
 
Ok, well, the 3 main ones from this century are...

"The Night Train"
Name given by residents. They were a special drug task force, who's job it was to swarm drug activity. Accused of unnecessary violence & planting drugs. That one got some attention because one of the cops had 10 very similar complaints. It came to a head when they beat up a guy, planted drugs on him, & then realized though he had few hits on his record, none were drug related or violent. Also, he wasn't the guy they were looking for. He got put on Duty Disability for mental issues, paranoid, depressed, etc... They gave him his guns back.

Then there are the Punishers. A cop who worked at the Academy got wind of them, started an investigation, & found what he described as a gang in the PD. Named themselves after The Punisher. Had his skull symbol on various items. He gave it to two commanders, they said they couldn't prove the gang existed, some of them got drunk one night, beat up a guy for "stealling one of their wallets". No wallet was found on him, he eas arrested but not charged. Cops circled the wagons. Acquitted at state level but convicted at federal for civil rights violations. Some got prison, some got probation.

& there's a some cops that decided roadside cavity searches were ok, at least 10 men had fingers shoved into their anus looking for drugs. The ringleader pleaded no contest. Got 2 years. His defense was it was a well known tactic on the force.
Another cop got 20 days, the other 2 got $300 fines & community service. All were fired.

That all sounds pretty similar to the complaints in Bmore, though it wasn't quite so aggressive here.

And that's my real point. This is a common problem, in need of a common solution.
 
If you end the war on drugs, you remove one very important racially charged law enforcement issue.

The CIA is running drugs anyway, or protecting them in the interests of our geopolitical strategy, so can we just please end the hypocrisy and injustice? It will do a lot to reduce racial tensions.
 
People like you.

And as you've likely noticed, it's not all that successful. Which is why I have to wonder what the point is.Much like I must wonder what the point of this thread is.

Interesting, considering my husband is black and our children mixed. But I'm sure that I'm somehow oppressing blacks by taking away a good man from the great selections out there. You are so far focused on your narrative that you've lost touch with reality. The only thing currently oppression the black community is the black community. Take your head out of the sand.


This is a joke.

"Well, you've got Obama, you've got Oprah...what more do you want!?"

equality.


I noticed you couldn't name anything. What exactly CANT black people do in the USA that everyone else can? Well?


I'm sure you do.

But findings on that are a topic for another discussion.

You're damn right I do having a husband that is black. But that is another topic.

Jesse Lee Peterson is one of few people who I refuse to listen to, simply because he's so obviously biased. You might as well post a link from David Duke, for all the good it does.


Duke is a racist *******. Youre just about as biased as he is.
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Well, I tried. This sort of nonsense has nothing to do with any real set of facts. So, let's just go in.


Facts? We can quote facts and youll make more excuses about how everyone else is to blame for them. EXCEPT the black community.
 
Facts? We can quote facts and youll make more excuses about how everyone else is to blame for them. EXCEPT the black community.

Noticed that you didn't comment on the facts cited in post 74.

Wanna do that and then re-evaluate whether there is racial oppression and discrimination in the US?
 
Interesting, considering my husband is black and our children mixed.

How sad for them.

But I'm sure that I'm somehow oppressing blacks by taking away a good man from the great selections out there. You are so far focused on your narrative that you've lost touch with reality. The only thing currently oppression the black community is the black community. Take your head out of the sand.

No, it's your husband's choice if he wants to be with you.

The fact that you're plainly wrong about black people in the US is for him to deal with.
 
I can only imagine the cognitive dissonance it takes to post repeatedly claiming that racism is dead and isn't a problem any more in a thread started by an open white supremacist.
 
Then there are the Punishers. A cop who worked at the Academy got wind of them, started an investigation, & found what he described as a gang in the PD. Named themselves after The Punisher. Had his skull symbol on various items. He gave it to two commanders, they said they couldn't prove the gang existed, some of them got drunk one night, beat up a guy for "stealling one of their wallets". No wallet was found on him, he eas arrested but not charged. Cops circled the wagons. Acquitted at state level but convicted at federal for civil rights violations. Some got prison, some got probation.

That is neither limited to black neighbourhoods nor even the US, it's international (pic from Belgium).
 

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