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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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Impressive list!


..... ummm, wait noticed at least ONE oddity.............

I could have sworn that the Senate and House of Representatives were populated by different folks.
wadda I know though. I'm a Canuck.

1. Attorney General – Michael Mukasey
2. Head of Homeland Security – Michael Chertoff
3. Chairman Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Richard Perle
4. Deputy Defense Secretary (Former) – Paul Wolfowitz
5. Under Secretary of Defense – Douglas Feith
6. National Security Council Advisor – Elliott Abrams
7. Vice President Dick Cheney’s Chief of Staff (Former) – “Scooter” Libby
8. White House Deputy Chief of Staff – Joshua Bolten
9. Under Secretary of State for Political Affairs – Marc Grossman
10. Director of Policy Planning at the State Department – Richard Haass
11. U.S. Trade Representative (Cabinet-level Position) – Robert Zoellick
12. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – James Schlesinger
13. UN Representative (Former) – John Bolton
14. Under Secretary for Arms Control – David Wurmser
15. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Eliot Cohen
16. Senior Advisor to the President – Steve Goldsmith
17. Principal Deputy Assistant Secretary – Christopher Gersten
18. Assistant Secretary of State – Lincoln Bloomfield
19. Deputy Assistant to the President – Jay Lefkowitz
20. White House Political Director – Ken Melman
21. National Security Study Group – Edward Luttwak
22. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Kenneth Adelman
23. Defense Intelligence Agency Analyst (Former) – Lawrence (Larry) Franklin
24. National Security Council Advisor – Robert Satloff
25. President Export-Import Bank U.S. – Mel Sembler
26. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Administration for Children and Families – Christopher Gersten
27. Assistant Secretary of Housing and Urban Development for Public Affairs – Mark Weinberger
28. White House Speechwriter – David Frum
29. White House Spokesman (Former) – Ari Fleischer
30. Pentagon’s Defense Policy Board – Henry Kissinger
31. Deputy Secretary of Commerce – Samuel Bodman
32. Under Secretary of State for Management – Bonnie Cohen
33. Director of Foreign Service Institute – Ruth Davis
34. Federal Reserve Chair – Janet Yellen
35. Federal Reserve Vice-Chair – Stanley Fischer

Current (and past) Members of Senate:
Representative Gary Ackerman (New York) Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
Representative Howard Berman (California)
Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
Representative Susan Davis (California)
Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
Representative Bob Filner (California)
Representative Barney Frank (Former) (Massachusetts)
Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
Representative Jane Harman (California)
Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
Representative Steve Israel (New York)
Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
Representative Adam Schiff (California)
Representative Arlen Specter (Pennsylvania)
Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
Representative Brad Sherman (California)
Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
Representative Henry Waxman (California)
Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)
House of Representatives:
Representative Gary Ackerman (New York) Representative John H. Adler (New Jersey)
Representative Shelley Berkley (Nevada)
Representative Howard Berman (California)
Representative Steve Cohen (Tennessee)
Representative Susan Davis (California)
Representative Eliot Engel (New York)
Representative Bob Filner (California)
Representative Barney Frank (Massachusetts)
Representative Gabrielle Giffords (Arizona)
Representative Alan Grayson (Florida)
Representative Jane Harman (California)
Representative Paul Hodes (New Hampshire)
Representative Steve Israel (New York)
Representative Steve Kagen (Wisconsin)
Representative Ronald Klein (Florida)
Representative Sander Levin (Michigan)
Representative Nita Lowey (New York)
Representative Jerry Nadler (New York)
Representative Jared Polis (Colorado)
Representative Steve Rothman (New Jersey)
Representative Jan Schakowsky (Illinois)
Representative Adam Schiff (California)
Representative Allyson Schwartz (Pennsylvania)
Representative Brad Sherman (California)
Representative Debbie Wasserman Schultz (Florida)
Representative Henry Waxman (California)
Representative Anthony Weiner (New York)
Representative John Yarmuth (Kentucky)

So how does it affect the credibility of such lists when the supposed list of Senators contains the same people as the supposed list of Congresspersons?
 
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You are correct about the Bromberg Bloody Sunday Massacre...except for the fact that it occurred two days after the German invasion and the death toll was maybe a few thousand. You talk about "retaliation" a good deal... that is what it looks like, retaliation by the Polish people against the Germans.

What she also convenently forgets is that about 13,000 Poles were killed by the nazis as retaliation for the massacre of less than 1,000 Germans.
 
Impressive list!


..... ummm, wait noticed at least ONE oddity.............

I could have sworn that the Senate and House of Representatives were populated by different folks.
wadda I know though. I'm a Canuck.



So how does it affect the credibility of such lists when the supposed list of Senators contains the same people as the supposed list of Congresspersons?

I think we have Stundie Material here with Diane, folks;not knowing the difference between the House of Representitives and the Senate, while pontificating on US Politics.
 
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What she also convenently forgets is that about 13,000 Poles were killed by the nazis as retaliation for the massacre of less than 1,000 Germans.

And that was just for starters. THe Death toll of Poles killed by the Germans in World War 2was over a million;and that is not including the Polish Jews.
And documents..particulary the Nazi "General Plan East" showed the Poles were next on the Genocide "TO DO" list after the Jews;over Most Poles were slated for liquidation, with a surviving portion to be saved as serfs for the Germans.
 
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I think we have Stundie Material here with Diane, folks;not knowing the difference between the House of Representitives and the Senate, while pontificating on US Politics.

Every second or third post from these people is Stundie Worthy. Diane suggested that the ADL controlled the Canadian court system.
 
My being kicked off of cable TV had EVERYTHING to do with the Jews...sorry....THEY used everyone else to do their dirty work.
But my issue with the USA and "Operation Paper Clip" needs futher studies. My gut feeling is that NOTHING connected them to any holocuast because there was none. They knew nothing about it, its so called plan, its "final solution" because there was none in the first place but only migration of the Jews out of Germany...That's where I stand at this point on this..looking forward to others opinions...

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Yes I'm just watching for when the flushing occurred. I suspect that our guests will try to force the hand of the mods to remove them - thereby 'proving' this site is own by 'Jews' and our brave neo-nazis were 'silenced'.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/01/us/poll-shows-major-shift-in-identity-of-us-jews.html?_r=0
Actually we don't force the flushing the flushing comes after us. This happens when we come out with information that can't be faulted, so people start referring to the rules the rules the rules that for some reason only apply to us...
This happens all the time. When it finally happens,....then we win....
I m not here to compllain about this administration but only to reply to this "Hans" post
I only got on this list to be able to post my opinions, unfortunately when I post my opinions I get a lot of side talk of being an anti-semite, a racist a hater, a bigot, and the list goes on and on. I just want to post my opinion and then see what others think you can post your opinion but I'm not going to come after you and call you a racist a hater an anti-semite blah blah blah, is this clear or are we going to act like12 year olds?

That's the thing about antisemites: they see everything as being about evil Jews and their gullible slaves. The idea that other groups and ideologies, in this case the Western and Soviet Blocs, have far more power to shape the world than their Jewish boogeymen is totally incomprehensible to them. They refuse to accept the reality that more often than not, Jews were under the control of theses world powers than the other way around.


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My being kicked off of cable TV had EVERYTHING to do with the Jews...sorry....THEY used everyone else to do their dirty work.
But my issue with the USA and "Operation Paper Clip" needs futher studies. My gut feeling is that NOTHING connected them to any holocuast because there was none. They knew nothing about it, its so called plan, its "final solution" because there was none in the first place but only migration of the Jews out of Germany...That's where I stand at this point on this..looking forward to others opinions...

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Have you figured out what your Jehovah's Witness book was referring to when it called Auschwitz an "extermination camp" and described the selection process yet?
 
Every second or third post from these people is Stundie Worthy. Diane suggested that the ADL controlled the Canadian court system.
The ADL is a very corrupt organization that if history serves me right they gave a "Torch of Liberty Award" to a notorious Jewish mob figure called Moe Dalitz back in 1982. The ADL opinions to me are worthless, and yes the ADL is totally Jewish....They are very powerful even to the point where my towns own police department was dependant on them...
http://www.framingham-police.org/steve-carl-and-the-adl.html

They have been front line against our free speech. ..

http://archive.boston.com/yourtown/news/framingham/2009/11/adl_tv_host_town_official_busi.html

So people, is the ADL powerful or just a nothing..lol...

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The ADL is a very corrupt organization that if history serves me right they gave a "Torch of Liberty Award" to a notorious Jewish mob figure called Moe Dalitz back in 1982. The ADL opinions to me are worthless, and yes the ADL is totally Jewish....They are very powerful even to the point where my towns own police department was dependant on them...
http://www.framingham-police.org/steve-carl-and-the-adl.html

They have been front line against our free speech. ..

http://archive.boston.com/yourtown/news/framingham/2009/11/adl_tv_host_town_official_busi.html

So people, is the ADL powerful or just a nothing..lol...

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I studied Law in University and am well acquainted with the Canadian court structure. The ADL is not part of it, and never was.
 
Have you figured out what your Jehovah's Witness book was referring to when it called Auschwitz an "extermination camp" and described the selection process yet?
Not sure what your getting at.I don't subscribe to the JWs, that ended back in 1991, thank God. They may refer to an "extermination camp" but they are just parroting what they have been told. In that 700 page book on the JW's in Auschwitz no mention is made of gas chambers..But Jehovah's Witnesses did have a tough time in some instances.
They weren't like the Jews. None would have become Sonnicomndos and killed their fellow brothers and sisters. Apparently the Jews cared only about themselves and savings their own lives. Of course I don't believe most of their stories anyway. Too many contradictions and lies.....lots of the JWs stories were a bit exaggerated also. They must of had learned that from the Jews..lol..
The book about the JW's is called Between Resistance & Martyrdom, Jehovah's Witnesses in the Third Reich by Detlef Garbe.


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They may refer to an "extermination camp" but they are just parroting what they have been told.

Ah, of course. First the book doesn't refer to gas chambers, and now where it refers to gas chambers it's because it's just "parroting" stories.

Those goalposts will be moved as far and as fast as possible to ensure you can keep avoiding the truth about what your own sources actually say, won't they?
 
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Your links are nonsense. Not a molecule can be found on the walls, means, it never was there in the first place. These excuses are getting to be laughable.

Will you be reporting your breakthrough in scientific journals? First you might want to share it with Fred Leuchter, who wrote,
As stated earlier, forensic samples of brick, mortar, concrete and sediment were selectively taken from sites in Poland. . . . Thirty-one samples were selectively removed from the alleged gas chambers at Kremas I, II, III, IV and V. A control sample was taken from delousing facility #1 at Birkenau. . . . The locations from which the analyzed samples [from Kremas] were removed are set out in Table III. . . . It is notable that almost all the samples were negative and that the few that were positive were very close to the detection level (1 mg/kg); 6.7 mg/kg at Krema III; 79 mg/kg at Krema I. The absence of any consequential readings at any of the tested locations as compared with the control sample reading 1050 mg/kg supports the evidence that these facilities were not execution gas chambers. The small quantities detected would indicate that at some point these buildings were deloused with Zyklon B -- as were all the buildings at all these facilities. . . .
One point that critics of Leuchter make is that the presence of small quantities of HCN in the Kremas indicates something different about these sites than Leuchter would have it. Care to read this criticism and tell us why it is wrong, now that you've been shown to be incorrect in your dismissal of the expert critiques?
 
The buildings were deloused...not used as gas chambers EVER...stop being so technical.....

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Rizoli's pal answered his own question. Scientists like Von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and Hubertus Strughold were heavily protected by NASA and the US government, making it very difficult for Nazi Hunters and the Justice department to go after them. For example, when the justice department started going after Strughold, powerful US congressmen and the US air force came to his defense and openly attacked the Justice department investigators in congress, forcing them to stop the investigation. Really, only a lunatic would continue to believe in the lies that the Jews control the USA.
Do thee scientist ever give their story and mention they we involved in a "final solution" before they came to the USA? I doubt it because there was never a final solution in the first place. I have no problem agreeing that these people were treated differently and protected but they were never part of any "final solution" unless you can prove it to me.....

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. . .yet they were the ones responsible for using the Jews labor for the German War effort. If they can bring people to court who worked on the Crematories, railroads, and other users of Jewish labor why not the German Scientist (who eventually ended up here) who actually used Jews for labor and were responsible for some of their deaths?
I guess the court is quiet on this one. Selective prosecution because some of the scientist WERE JEWS.

There were between 10 million and 14 million forced laborers working for the Germans by 1945, up to 7 million of them within Germany. Most of these were not Jews. Among these were large numbers of French and Polish forced laborers.

Speaking of the late war slave labor programs, and particular Mittelbau-Dora, where the “secret weapons” were produced, André Sellier has written a history of that camp. On p x Sellier notes that over half the Mittelbau-Dora prisoners were Poles, Ukrainians, and Russians - not Jews. The initial Mittelbau-Dora prisoners, in fact, came from Buchenwald (and some workers from Peenemünde around this time) - and during the camp's early period French and German prisoners also made up a high % of inmates in the complex. Not until mid-1944 did significant numbers of Jews come to the camp for labor - Hungarian Jews (and in 1945 some Jews arrived as a result of death marches). Sellier covers the composition of inmates in the complex on pp 107-121.
 
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