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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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... - it's like having a fifth column, and this doesn't even include the POWER BROKERS - you know the megabillionaires who all seem to have jewish ethnic origins - Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Kissinger - you know, 'the good ole boy network'.

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And the Breitbarts!!! DON'T FORGET THE *********** BREITBARTS!!!





eh ... I mean the Bilderbergs ....
 
TRUE REASON FOR BEGINNING OF WWII, Not Hitler, but the Poles and their rotten alliances with Britain and France. It wasn't about the Germans crossing the border into Poland (or they'd have declared war against the Soviet Union who did the same thing with their own invasion) it was about destroying Germany ON ANY PRETENSE.

Yes, your honour, they made me do it. Sure I massed my armies on the border. Yes, I carried out false flag operations to justify the attack. But was all their fault, they made me attack them.
 
Why don't they go after the Operation Paperclip scientist who were illegally brought over to the several countries that were used for their expertise in rockets, weaponry etc....
About Operation Paperclip....and their killing of Jews
They would be actually good targets for trial considering that the Jews in some of the camps worked on the rockets and war related things.
These scientist weren't touched by any of the courts.......yet they were the ones responsible for using the Jews labor for the German War effort. If they can bring people to court who worked on the Crematories, railroads, and other users of Jewish labor why not the German Scientist (who eventually ended up here) who actually used Jews for labor and were responsible for some of their deaths?
I guess the court is quiet on this one. Selective prosecution because some of the scientist WERE JEWS.

JR


Been there before, dung that!!!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_Rudolph
 
The Jews have been kicked out of over a hundred and nine countries there must be a reason why this has happened the only country that has not kicked the Jews out has been the United States of America, unfortunately or fortunately for us Germany ask the Jews to leave because they ruined the country. The Weimar Republic was wrapped in filth back in the twenties and thirties and a lot of it had to do with the Jews and their view point of morality and what they let come into the country, people don't understand that the United States of America is in the exact same position that Weimar Germany before Hitler took power we are suffering the same consequences. That Weimar Germany suffered, so you tell me if the Jews have anything to do with the country and its morality.

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Dude, this is pretty whack. And you wonder why you were booted off a public access TV station.
 

Also Alexander Lileikis. Both men were prosecuted literally decades after the war. And the OSI needed a lot of effort to get started.

The whole point of this exercise that HDenier and Rizoli miss, is that 1) Jews don't control the USA and 2)The Hoax never happened. America didn't fake any of the evidence in its custody.
 
you know the megabillionaires who all seem to have jewish ethnic origins - Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Kissinger - you know, 'the good ole boy network'.

the Rockefeller family is/was Baptist, and Henry Kissinger has been described by some as a self hating Jew.
 
The Jews provided most of the Labor for the German War Machine.......even though they were lousy workers. The Germans found that out later....
Lots of sabatoge etc....of course when found to do those things they were promptly executed...and rightly so.

JR

If I was stripped of my citizenship and forced into slave labor in an armaments factory you had bet your bottom dollar that I would commit sabotage.

I will remind you that you have yet to respond to most of my withering refutations of your nonsense.
 
TRUE REASON FOR BEGINNING OF WWII, Not Hitler, but the Poles and their rotten alliances with Britain and France. It wasn't about the Germans crossing the border into Poland (or they'd have declared war against the Soviet Union who did the same thing with their own invasion) it was about destroying Germany ON ANY PRETENSE.

"The historical record, as represented by the German government at the time, on Bromberg "Bloody Sunday" and related incidents -- 58,000 claimed dead or missing by Feb 1940. (WHAT ABOUT THE NUMBERS? Are these numbers exaggerated? Probably, but not by much, certainly nowhere near as much as the way Poles and Jews exaggerate their numbers of dead. These historical facts were confirmed by the East-German historian Theodor Bierschenk in 1954, and the Social-Democrat journalist Otto Heike in 1955, on the basis of Polish documents. There were 12,857 identified dead in the Bromberg area, leaving a large number of unidentified dead there, and many more dead elsewhere. Both Hoggan (The Forced War) and de Zayas (Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau) basically agree with these conclusions.)"

http://www.jrbooksonline.com/polish_atrocities.htm

http://www.thefuhrerbunker.com/WWII.htm

It is hard to admit it is possible to put so much garbage in so few lines of text.

The "Bloody Sunday" at Bromber (now Bydgoszcz) began on 3 September 1939, i.e. when the invasion of Poland by Germany had already started.

By the way I noticed you (and your sources too) were justifying the invasion of Poland (1st September 1939) by this massacre which took place 3 days after. Just wondering how you do can do that from a legal and moral point of view.

Some Ethnic Germans would have decided to open the fire on the men of a Plish army unit who were retreating, but there is not agreement of the historians on this point. According to this version Ethnic Germans have been killed by the Polish population in retaliation.

Most of the historians agree that the number of killed Germans is less than 1,000 or even 500.

However for propaganda reasons Goebbels falsely announced that 5,800 Germans had been killed and in 1940 he increased this figure up to 58,000.
 
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JimRizoli said:
Quote from the Scrapbookpages site.....somone who gets it...

That’s a very good comment, Mr Rizoli – why aren’t the Nazi Hunters going after the “Operation Paper Clip” scientists. Is it because it is much easier to persecute (sorry, prosecute) elderly pensioners in Germany who only had lowly roles in the camps, and never did any harm to anyone in their lives, rather than seek out the comfortably-off, and heavily protected, former scientists and technologists who now live in America and who authorised and carried out operations in the labour camps and war industries.
The hypocrisy, and phony righteousness of these ongoing trials in Germany makes me sick.
I agree 100%

JR

The existence of prosecutorial discretion proves that crime doesn't happen?

Rizoli's pal answered his own question. Scientists like Von Braun, Arthur Rudolph and Hubertus Strughold were heavily protected by NASA and the US government, making it very difficult for Nazi Hunters and the Justice department to go after them. For example, when the justice department started going after Strughold, powerful US congressmen and the US air force came to his defense and openly attacked the Justice department investigators in congress, forcing them to stop the investigation. Really, only a lunatic would continue to believe in the lies that the Jews control the USA.
 
the Rockefeller family is/was Baptist, and Henry Kissinger has been described by some as a self hating Jew.

Yep. Christopher Hitchens quotes Kissinger as saying he didn't care about the plight of Jews in the Soviet Union. Antisemites love to quote him, too.
 
Operation Paper Clip was a new avenuev for research. Germanys best scientist come to America and not one is prosecuted for war crimes against humanity or being part of the final solution, why? Because there was no holocaust.

1. I have no clue what an "avenuev" is, does it fall under the category of "Treasonas"?

2. The Americans cut deals with the majority of these figures, knowing full well their involvement in all manner of war crimes. This was a reoccurring theme of the early cold war. Numerous persons with involvement in Nazi crimes were co-opted for use by the western powers in what can best be described as a modern day series of Faustian bargains. There are many examples of this. The British hired Alfons Rebane, a former Colonel in the Waffen SS, as a officer in MI6. The Americans recruited a former Finnish Waffen-SS officer named Lauri Törni into the Green Berets. The Butcher of Lyon, Klaus Barbie, was a member of the Ghelen organization at one point. The Warsaw Pact did it too, the early East German "Stasi" secret police included many former Nazis. It seemed that both sides of the Cold war forgot about the crimes perpetrated by their former foes in an attempt to use their talents against their new fores on either side of the Iron Curtain.
Operation Paperclip is part and parcel of this context.

But you don't know this because you don't know history.
 
Also Alexander Lileikis. Both men were prosecuted literally decades after the war. And the OSI needed a lot of effort to get started.

The whole point of this exercise that HDenier and Rizoli miss, is that 1) Jews don't control the USA and 2)The Hoax never happened. America didn't fake any of the evidence in its custody.


Admittedly, the Rizoli's have a special definition of Jew i.e. people who disagree with me = Jew.
 
It is hard to admit it is possible to put so much garbage in so few lines of text.

The "Bloody Sunday" at Bromber (now Bydgoszcz) began on 3 September 1939, i.e. when the invasion of Poland by Germany had already started.

By the way I noticed you (and your sources too) were justifying the invasion of Poland (1st September 1939) by this massacre which took place 3 days after. Just wondering how you do can do that from a legal and moral point of view.

That's because the source cited at her links is the Nazis' own garbage post-hoc propaganda justifying the invasion: "Polish Atrocities Against the German Minority in Poland, Edited and published by order of the Foreign Office, Volk und Reich Verlag, Berlin, 2nd. revised ed., 1940, 311 pp."
 
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The Jews provided most of the Labor for the German War Machine.......even though they were lousy workers. The Germans found that out later....
Lots of sabatoge etc....of course when found to do those things they were promptly executed...and rightly so.

JR

Wrong again...

Most labor workers were foreigners (Russians, Ukrainians, Poles, Frenchs, Belgians, a.o.) deported to Germany (representing more than 7 millions people) and POWs (mainly French ones, as the Wermacht let 3.5 millions of Soviet POWs die from starvation, illness and bad treatments).

According to some figures computed after the war there were about 11millions of displaced persons in Germany, mainly forced workers of foreign origin and to a much lesser extend POWs form various origins.

Almost no Jews were to be found in Germany anymore.
 
The need for more Kremas? Lots of people staterted dying because of typhus. Even SS people died...Kremas prove a high death rate. That death rate was attributed to typhus and other sicknesses. HOMOCIDAL gassings wasn't one of them.

It is a fact that Auschwitz had a cremation capacity 29 times that of Mauthausen-Gusen, a KL that had a high death rate due to disease, overwork, and abuse from the guards. The Quarry camp at Mauthausen had a death rate of over 50%, and yet they had nowhere near the number nad capacitu of Kremas that Auschwitz had. Explain this.
 
1. I have no clue what an "avenuev" is, does it fall under the category of "Treasonas"?

2. The Americans cut deals with the majority of these figures, knowing full well their involvement in all manner of war crimes. This was a reoccurring theme of the early cold war. Numerous persons with involvement in Nazi crimes were co-opted for use by the western powers in what can best be described as a modern day series of Faustian bargains. There are many examples of this. The British hired Alfons Rebane, a former Colonel in the Waffen SS, as a officer in MI6. The Americans recruited a former Finnish Waffen-SS officer named Lauri Törni into the Green Berets. The Butcher of Lyon, Klaus Barbie, was a member of the Ghelen organization at one point. The Warsaw Pact did it too, the early East German "Stasi" secret police included many former Nazis. It seemed that both sides of the Cold war forgot about the crimes perpetrated by their former foes in an attempt to use their talents against their new fores on either side of the Iron Curtain.
Operation Paperclip is part and parcel of this context.

But you don't know this because you don't know history.

That's the thing about antisemites: they see everything as being about evil Jews and their gullible slaves. The idea that other groups and ideologies, in this case the Western and Soviet Blocs, have far more power to shape the world than their Jewish boogeymen is totally incomprehensible to them. They refuse to accept the reality that more often than not, Jews were under the control of theses world powers than the other way around.
 
There were 12,857 identified dead in the Bromberg area, leaving a large number of unidentified dead there, and many more dead elsewhere. Both Hoggan (The Forced War) and de Zayas (Wehrmacht War Crimes Bureau) basically agree with these conclusions.)"

You are correct about the Bromberg Bloody Sunday Massacre...except for the fact that it occurred two days after the German invasion and the death toll was maybe a few thousand. You talk about "retaliation" a good deal... that is what it looks like, retaliation by the Polish people against the Germans.
 
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