The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017

[Bjarne]

Yes, why hurry, the longer it takes for it to become obvious to you that you're doing nothing whatsoever, the longer you can wallow in your fantasies.
You need your fantasies.

Imagination is important

 

[Bjarne]

What arguments do you have that it's not?

Experience

 

[Bjarne]

Too bad you offer no evidence.

Evidence will come within 1 year, - SR will fall apart. Hell will break loose.

Even your old lie about relativistic resistance is there.

Typical for you, you read nothing - just bla bla bla bla as usual..
There is a whole chapter about Relativistic Resistance (Chapter 3) Again you just revealed that you blab la bla and criticizes something you haven’t read.

And the silly graph of a "solar eclipse" where the moon is not aligned with the sun.

No, the image of solar eclipse is not silly, - you can see solar eclipse even close to the North Pole or the South Pole.
But obviously you also do not understand that kindergarten lesson either.. Was you also sick that day ?

 

[Bjarne]

That is a totally ignorant statement, Bjarne.
The consensus is that dark matter is matter but non-baryonic (no electromagnetic interactions).
The idea of dark matter as normal matter has been extensively investigated by scientists, e.g. MACHOs. Not finding enough dark matter as normal matter is part of the strong scientific evidence that dark matter is not normal matter !
10 August 2016 Bjarne: A delusion of dark matter as matter being "against the holy omniscient mainstream".
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Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed, much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

How can I say that ?

Simple because the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion.. This mean we have to open a whole new chapter of science, because even a chicken brain have IQ enough to figure out that there also must be acceleration in that dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect

 

[JeanTate]

Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed, much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

How can I say that ?

Simple because the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion.. This mean we have to open a whole new chapter of science, because even a chicken brain have IQ enough to figure out that there also must be acceleration in that dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect

Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed is very robust, compared with Bjarne's ideas which are much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

How can I say that ?

Simple because the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion.. This mean we have to open a whole new chapter of science change nothing in the prevailing understanding, because even a chicken brain have IQ enough to figure out that there also must be acceleration in that is no dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect (a good example of poor experimental science, combined with failures to understand basic physics)
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Why is my opinion better than yours, Bjarne?

 

[halleyscomet]

I am attacking the theory of relativity, you have to take the big hammer out of the toolbox, the small hammer will not do it.

That's part of your problem. You spend too much time on grand visions and not enough time on the details. If you want to make headway in physics you need to use small hammers to attack a lot of the small problems. You're ignoring all the supporting structure of the theory you're attacking and instead launching impotent broadsides that bounce off.

You can't even pluralize phenomenon properly in your paper's introduction. Do some damn editing man!

And this is only the first part, later we will be forced to understand the nature of space better, and therefore sooner or later one more truth must be told, - the universe is not expanding, -again you need the sledgehammer.

And that first part is crap. You blithely ignore all the math behind the theories you're attacking to make bold statements about how you think things work, but then offer a pittance of math to back it up. Even if your science is right, you're presenting too poorly for anyone to properly assess it.

Its very differcult to be humble, also because a whole world of innocent people are brainwashed day after day,.

You need to learn to stow you ego if you expect anyone to take you seriously. Donald Trump gets away with letting his ego dictate everything he says and does because he's rich. You're not rich, you're not politically powerful. All you've got is your mind and your arguments. If you keep wielding those tools this poorly, you will continue to fail to convince anyone of anything.

 

[halleyscomet]

Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed, much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

How can I say that ?

Simple because the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion.. This mean we have to open a whole new chapter of science, because even a chicken brain have IQ enough to figure out that there also must be acceleration in that dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect

Then write, and publish, a paper detailing the results you expect to see, how they differ from the results relatively predicts they'll get, and then outline, complete with the math to back it up, what you think this indicates. Start posting your equations and graphs here. Walk us through it instead of insulting us for not believing you without evidence. We'll help you edit the paper by providing all the potential objections you'll need to address in the finished product.

Stick to the basic facts. Keep the paper narrow in scope. Your current, "I'm proving EVERYTHING WRONG!!!!" tactic just makes you look like a kook or a flat earther. Your approach is more at home on the David Icke forums than in actual scientific discussion.

Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed, much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

Not unless you write and publish the paper I describe.

 

[halleyscomet]

Experience

Well that's a useless, impotent, futile non-answer. You aren't even trying to make a scientific argument here. Your bias and opinion will not change the course of science, nor should it.

Imagination is important

Yes, that's true, but when it comes to convincing people that you've imagined something accurate, you need to bring in cold, hard facts and the math to back them up.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Evidence will come within 1 year, - SR will fall apart. Hell will break loose.

You have to realize that even in the unlikely case that SR does indeed fall apart, it will not be evidence for your model. In short, failure of model A is not evidence for model B.

Typical for you, you read nothing - just bla bla bla bla as usual..
There is a whole chapter about Relativistic Resistance (Chapter 3) Again you just revealed that you blab la bla and criticizes something you haven’t read.

I read it this time, and the previous times you published it, and the same lie is there:

No scientific method has ever proven that such relativistic resistance against motion only applies during the acceleration period.

I and others have, repeatedly, shown you that this statement is false. You have ignored it, but that does not relieve you of responsibility. Your statement is false. There is no resistance to constant speed.

And, of course, that means that the remainder of that chapter is just rubbish.

No, the image of solar eclipse is not silly, - you can see solar eclipse even close to the North Pole or the South Pole.

You can indeed, but your statement is about the Allais effect, and the instances where the Allais effect has been reported are not observed near the poles.

Hans

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: The ACES experiment will be launched in 2017, not 2016

Evidence will come within 1 year,

That is abysmal ignorance about the experiment you claim will debunk SR , Bjarne!
11 August 2016 Bjarne: The ACES experiment will be launched in 2017, not 2016, with no results for another 18 months !

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: A more accurate experiment on SR is highly unlikely to disprove SR

Tic tac tic tac tic ...

Repeated delusions about science, Bjarne.
11 August 2016 Bjarne: A more accurate experiment on SR is very highly unlikely to disprove SR with its enormous body of evidence!

 

[Reality Check]

The RR fantasy appearing on 15 October 2009 here, continued ignorance of high school level science and digging a pit of fantasies from Bjarne (82 items of ignorance, fantasy and delusion in this thread alone!).

1. 2 August 2016 Bjarne: A delusion that evidence that the inflationary model is invalid would be announced in a YouTube video.
2. 2 August 2016 Bjarne: A lie by quote mining Professor George Etstahiou - cutting out a word he knows was spoken.
3. 2 August 2016 Bjarne: Ignorance about inflation which is not "that the universe started with a singularity".
4. 3 August 2016 Bjarne: A lie based on ignorance of the evidence that is the basis for [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflation_(cosmology)"]inflation and its confirmed prediction.[/URL]
5. 5 August 2016 Bjarne: Repeats the lie about Etstahiou's quote by cutting the first word that he stated before was "As" !
6. 5 August 2016 Bjarne: Repeats the delusion of "Your paradigm is more shaken than ever before"
7. 5 August 2016 Bjarne: A lie about an alternative to solve imaginary "really big problems".
8. 5 August 2016 Bjarne: A total fantasy that you have a list of the "really big problems" in inflation (that "paradigm") and solutions.
9. 9 August 2016 Bjarne: It is a lie that your PDF contains any "problem with our paradigm"
10. 9 August 2016 Bjarne: The ignorant delusion of "100 years indoctrination and massive propaganda"
11. 10 August 2016 Bjarne: An irrational "1000 years" rant insulting every scientist that ever lived and even science itself !
12. 10 August 2016 Bjarne: An ignorant, irrelevant statement about quantum theory.
13. 10 August 2016 Bjarne: The repeated delusion that gravity is a byproduct of the strong force.
14. 10 August 2016 Bjarne: The delusion that Einstein would be so deluded to think that gravity is a byproduct of the strong force !
15. 10 August 2016 Bjarne: The evidence is that universe is 4.9% normal matter, 26% dark matter and the rest dark energy.
16. 10 August 2016 Bjarne: A delusion of dark matter as matter being "against the holy omniscient mainstream".
17. 10 August 2016 Bjarne: An ignorant "SR will begin to fall apart already in the years 2016 to 2017" delusion on what looks like a new "journal".
18. 11 August 2016 Bjarne: The ACES experiment will be launched in 2017, not 2016, with no results for another 18 months !
19. 11 August 2016 Bjarne: A more accurate experiment on SR is very highly unlikely to disprove SR with its enormous body of evidence!

 

[The Man]

Evidence will come within 1 year, - SR will fall apart. Hell will break loose.

Exactly what part of SR is that you think will fall apart and must therefore be restraining "Hell"?

Is it that the laws of physics are invariant for all inertial frames?

Perhaps it's that the speed of light in a vacuum is the same for all observers regardless of the speed of the source?

Maybe it's just formulations of the coordinate transformations that you don't agree with? (I asked this before but you didn't answer.)

So again what exactly is it in SR that you claim will "fall apart"?

 

[crhkrebs]

I don't want to read all the nonsense. I just dropped in to see if the Theory of Relativity has fallen apart yet. If not, I'll check back.......how is September?

 

[halleyscomet]

Tic tac tic tac tic ..... Soon the world will see that the prevailing understanding have been some of the most hard core brainwash that ever existed, much more fanatic than the idea that the earth is flat.

How can I say that ?

Simple because the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion.. This mean we have to open a whole new chapter of science, because even a chicken brain have IQ enough to figure out that there also must be acceleration in that dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect

How does your theory account for the orbit of Mercury?

One of the major early feathers in the cap of Relativity was that it, unlike Newton's laws, accurately predicted the orbit of Mercury without invoking an imaginary extra planet.

Since the main thrust of your objection to Relativity involves gravity, you're going to need to offer a prediction of Mercury's orbit that's as accurate as that or relativity to even be considered a contender. If you can't even handle Mercury you're not going to stand a chance at taking out Relativity.

 

[Daylightstar]

I don't want to read all the nonsense. I just dropped in to see if the Theory of Relativity has fallen apart yet. If not, I'll check back.......how is September?

Make that September 2017, next year. Nothing will have changed though, except perhaps for the addition of more conspiracy mongering on the part of the op.

 

[Reality Check]

I just dropped in to see if the Theory of Relativity has fallen apart yet. If not, I'll check back.......how is September?

The thread title is one part of Bjarne's complete ignorance about what he is talking about. The ACES experiment for the ISS is scheduled to launch in August 2017. The mission length is 18 months with a calibration period of 6 months. Papers do not magically appear immediately - they take months to write. So late 2018 for any paper on the calibration, late 2019/early 2020 for any paper on the results.

 

[Perpetual Student]

I don't want to read all the nonsense. I just dropped in to see if the Theory of Relativity has fallen apart yet. If not, I'll check back.......how is September?

I also check in from time to time to learn if relativity has fallen apart. Each time I cross my fingers -- so far, so good! September is a bad month: the equinox may allow for a reprieve for a while. I would wait at least until November; but beware of the winter solstice.

 

[halleyscomet]

I also check in from time to time to learn if relativity has fallen apart. Each time I cross my fingers -- so far, so good! September is a bad month: the equinox may allow for a reprieve for a while. I would wait at least until November; but beware of the winter solstice.

It would take a lot to unseat Relativity at this point. The last 20 years of space flight has provided vast amounts of experimental data supporting it. The gravity aspects that are supposedly going to be unseated are supported not just by orbital data of artificial satellites but by data on the orbit of Mercury.

The "theory" being presented in this thread as an alternative starts off by ignoring 30 years of high-precision data, 60 years of space flight and over 100 years of astronomical observations that all fit relativity's predictions.

The best anyone can hope for is to find a niche where relativity doesn't apply perfectly, but that's already being examined by string theory.

Ultimately this thread is about a scientifically ignorant wad of garbage being promoted by one lone person who is literally ignoring generations of data to promote his own ideas, all while blithely ignoring the math involved in supporting relativity.

 

[Peregrinus]

Tic tac tic tac tic ..... the ISS test of relativity will prove the whole (visible) universe is in motion..

"Will prove"? We've known the entire Universe to be in motion for quite some time. Do some real research into Junior High Science.

...blather, blather, blather.... there also must be acceleration in that dark flow, - something that in fact already is measured ( but not fully understood) - The Allais Effect

The aforementioned "dark flow" has never appeared aside from your fantastical maunderings.

The "Allais Effect" has no reliable attestation other then the questionable observations of a single French astronomer observing pendulums during a solar eclipse - an event (if confirmed but not as of this date) (and why a pendulum should deviate in any way during an eclipse . . . ) so trivial as to have no entry into the operations of the Universe.