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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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LemmyCaution said:
But then there's the dissonance to the anti-Semitic narrative of hoaxing in that Hogan's Heroes featured one star from Germany who was Jewish under the Reich's racial laws and whose family had fled Germany in 1935 (Werner Klemperer, playing Colonel Klink - Klemperer was nephew of Dresden diarist Victor Klemperer whose journal is a widely used source for the Holocaust in Germany as seen by a Jew in a mixed marriage)
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On the subject of Victor Klemperer, it always strikes me how he remained a loyal German nationalist even after the war and everything the Nazi Regime did to him and his people. Even to the extent of becoming an Anti Zionist himself. Most German Jews felt the same way, if I'm not mistaken. It makes one wonder exactly where all those "Hostile" Jews allegedly came from, other than the Deniers' feverish imaginations....:mad:
 
JimRizoli said:
You do know ZB is lighter than air?

JR
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And?

If you are in a sealed, limited expansion space,with a saturation density, what difference would comparative weight make?

There would stil only be the volume of the chamber for it to expand into.
 
JimRizoli said:
Excellent points why would the Germans spend so much time and energy and money on new technologies to keep people alive yeah that's what they did.

JR
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The Germans took the time because the epidemics affected GERMAN personnel, Jim. The SS stationed at Auschwitz exposed themselves to the same epidemics as the inmates. I'll need to look but I think one of the wives of the SS died during the typhus epidemic of 1942. Also, any epidemic in the camp or camps could spread outside the camp(s) and infect the surrounding towns or cities.

The SS also wanted to keep epidemics from spreading among the working inmates, they needed those inmates to work. This had nothing to do with those selected on arrival for execution.
 
Tomtomkent said:
And?

If you are in a sealed, limited expansion space,with a saturation density, what difference would comparative weight make?

There would stil only be the volume of the chamber for it to expand into.
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Well said.

Rizoli is actually defending Berg's stupidity. Too bad Berg already won the Stundie for this statement: we can't nominate Rizoli for it anymore.
 
Zyclon B

JimRizoli said:
You do know ZB is lighter than air?

JR
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Yes it is, Jim. This means that when released it will naturally fill the space it is released in without mechanical assistance. In other words, no need for fans. It will also escape the room it is released in when doors or windows are opened.

ZB was a common pesticide used to fumigate office buildings, ships, even orchards.
 
Bone crusher and other nonsense

Elagabalus said:
Don't forget the bone crusher. This took 2 seconds to find:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:...achine_in_the_Janowska_concentration_camp.png
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What nonsense. How dare you open yourself up for ridicule by showing us a supposed bone crusher machine when it is linked to this nonsense even the Holocaust museum says is a myth. The soap, the gloves, is all a MYTH says the Holohoax people themselves...

From your link that you apparently missed....
'A bone crusher from Janowska and other items such as a bar of soap made from human fat and gloves of human skin produced in the camps can be seen in the Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Kiev"

I'm not saying they couldn't have a bone crusher machine if there was, what does it prove? That they had a bone crusher machine machine for dead bodies. It doesn't mean anything any more that than Immigrants coming into Ellis Island and the crematoriums they had there. So Ellis Island gassed people? Can you make that wild assumption?

But your bone crusher link and the soap and glove nonsense make me believe that the bone crusher machine may not even be what you say it is since it is linked with other "myths", nice try though...lol:jaw-dropp
 
Jeffk 1970 said:
I'm still waiting for Jim to post the alleged report that stated Krema II-V were unsuitable for conversion into gas chambers.

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Jim stated that during the Vienna Trial of 1972 of the two Auschwitz engineers someone submitted an expert report that the Krema could not be converted into gas chambers.

I'd like to see a copy of that report.
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Jeff....I'm still waiting for a picture of a real live homicidal gas chamber, a person who was killed in one, pictures of mass graves with millions of bodies.
Seems to be a reasonable request.....the links and pics you're showing are laughable.
Try using them in a court of law and see how far you get.

JR
 
HDenier said:
What nonsense. How dare you open yourself up for ridicule by showing us a supposed bone crusher machine when it is linked to this nonsense even the Holocaust museum says is a myth. The soap, the gloves, is all a MYTH says the Holohoax people themselves...

From your link that you apparently missed....
'A bone crusher from Janowska and other items such as a bar of soap made from human fat and gloves of human skin produced in the camps can be seen in the Museum of the Great Patriotic War in Kiev"


But your bone crusher link and the soap and glove nonsense make me believe that the bone crusher machine may not even be what you say it is since it is linked with other "myths", nice try though...lol:jaw-dropp
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Soap and skin gloves are irrelevant, HD. They do not prove or disprove the Holocaust. Much like the denier obsession over Elie Wiesel's tattoo or Anne Frank's Diary.

I'll tell you what, HD. Why don't you show us your evidence on where the Jewish transports wound up? Most "revisionist" theories state these transports wound up in the Soviet Union. Where is the evidence for this?
 
JimRizoli said:
Jeff....I'm still waiting for a picture of a real live homicidal gas chamber, a person who was killed in one, pictures of mass graves with millions of bodies.
Seems to be a reasonable request.....the links and pics you're showing are laughable.
Try using them in a court of law and see how far you get.

JR
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Jim, answer my question:

Do you or do you not have a copy of the report you mentioned? Yes or no?

If you do not then I will conclude that it does not exist.
 
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JimRizoli said:
Jeff....I'm still waiting for a picture of a real live homicidal gas chamber, a person who was killed in one, pictures of mass graves with millions of bodies.
Seems to be a reasonable request.....the links and pics you're showing are laughable.
Try using them in a court of law and see how far you get.

JR
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So, Rizoli changes the subject after being schooled about the real purpose of ZB. Typical.

I can post links now, neat:
http://phdn.org/archives/holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/19430129-vergasungskeller/
- da der Vergasungskeller hierfür benützt werden kann.-
- as the gassing cellar can be used for this purpose.-
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This isn't a forgery.

Rizoli's obsession with "photos" of this and that is a non sequitur, as usual. It doesn't follow that something doesn't exist because there aren't any photos of it. Rizoli might as well dismiss all history before the invention of the camera.

Also, he and HDenier have been shown photos of mass graves in bodies. It's not our problem if they don't want to deal with it.
 
Another holohoax fraud where people lives were put in the balance.

http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/bib215638

The beasts of Buchenwald : Karl & Ilse Koch, human-skin lampshades, and the war-crimes trial of the century / Flint Whitlock

Again the lampshades is a "MYTH" yet Miss Koch was tried for these lies. She had no idea what these accusations were about when she was tried. The holohoax liars just made up this stuff...The soap crap is still presented as evidence on the USHMM.org web site.

the book I referenced that most of you laughed at about, the skin lampshades is still referenced at the USHMM,org web site....
http://collections.ushmm.org/search/catalog/bib212797

of course they say the "ALLEGED" notice the words people.
German civilians are forced to look at a display in the Buchenwald concentration camp of tattoos and a lampshade allegedly made from human remains.…

http://collections.ushmm.org/search/?utf8=✓&q=lampshades&search_field=all_fields

Keep the holohoax myths and lies coming you "skeptics"...and you ask me to believe your holohoax contradictory nonsense.....lol....
 
Jeffk 1970 said:
Yes it is, Jim. This means that when released it will naturally fill the space it is released in without mechanical assistance. In other words, no need for fans. It will also escape the room it is released in when doors or windows are opened.

ZB was a common pesticide used to fumigate office buildings, ships, even orchards.
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Absolute nonsense!
Now let them show us how it works in a real room....guess what they can't!
Just like the nonexistent pictures of homicidal gas chambers, mass graves etc....all talk no action.
Then you have the nerve to turn this all around and ask us to prove it didn't happen! Thats like saying prove men didn't land on Mars.....Ok, they didn't.
You sure wouldn't last in a courtroom.....You HoloHuxsters only survive here because you bully all the wimps into submission, sorry guys aint going to happen with us.
Welcome to the Skeptoid site where all things are looked upon in a critical light EXCET the HoloHoax.....it happened because it happened....yup that about sums it up. LOL
Yup....Six million fools killed in fake gas chambers, with bug spray..couldn't get any better than that. Of course we do have a UFO sighting by Kurt Gerstein who saw a 120 ft pile high of clothing, and lets not forget that 75 ft hing pile of shoes to go with the clothing.
Oh wait a minute there is more.....up to 2 million people killed, by diesel exhaust, buried, dug up and burned on huge hibachis, and the ashes spread all over the place with NO trace. And lets not forget the bone crushing machine that pulverized all 2 million bodies to ashes, only one machine to crush 2 million bodies....LOL
They still would be crushing the bodies today at that pace.
Yes folks welcome to the Skeptoid nonsense site, where reality of nonsense exist for this one HoloHoax topic and plenty of HoloHuxsters to keep the nonsense going. This is where I get a few chuckles to start my day off......


JR
 
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