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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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JimRizoli said:
Actually I'm trying to work with you guys here but you refuse to answer my questions so I'm not going to bother with yours.
Yes folks according to the Holohucksters here 6 million Jews died in fake gas Chambers using bug spray sounds reasonable to me.

JR
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In point of fact, your questions are being answered; questions asked of you are being dodged or ignored. It's your decision. Not replying leads to whatever judgments people will make about you.

Please quote one person other than you and other deniers claiming "6 million Jews died in ... gas Chambers using bug spray."
 
LemmyCaution said:
In point of fact, your questions are being answered; questions asked of you are being dodged or ignored. It's your decision. Not replying leads to whatever judgments people will make about you.

Please quote one person other than you and other deniers claiming "6 million Jews died in ... gas Chambers using bug spray."
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HDenier said:
What books of scholarly design do you hoaxes recommend?

Come on guys and girls give me the cream of the crop of liar books you might recommend that I might be able to change my "denial". Who knows I may already have them. I love seeing the nonsense and the contradictions in these books. After all was it Kurt Gerstein who said 40 Million were gassed and that there was a 120 foot pile of shoes? If one was to deny his testimony then one would be a holocaust denier? Are you guys deniers yet you should be.....

Let's see what you guys are reading besides the funny pages....Ill tell you what I have read.

One quick book, America Views the Holocaust, 1933-1945. A Brief Documentary History, by Robert H. Abzug.

He mentions Dachau, Buchenwald, and Bergen Belsen WERE NOT EXTERMINATION CAMPS.....pp 192......

OOPS..that sure can ruin a holohauxters day.....
That would mean there was NO FINAL SOLUTION in those camps..lol....
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Dachau, Bergen Belsen and Buchenwald were not camps associated directly with the Final Solution, though many Jews and others perished in these camps, so I am not exactly following your point.

You came up with one book, on IIRC American liberation of and views about the camps. Wow.

Recent works I recommend are
* David Cesarani, FINAL SOLUTION
* Christian Gerlach, THE EXTERMINATION OF THE EUROPEAN JEWS
* Nicholas Wachsmann, KL
* Alex Kay, THE MAKING OF AN SS KILLER: THE LIFE OF COLONEL ALFRED FILBERT
* Wolfgang Siebel, PERSECUTION AND RESCUE: THE POLITICS OF THE "FINAL SOLUTION" IN FRANCE
* Yaacov Lozowick, HITLER'S BUREAUCRATS
* Elissa Mailänder, FEMALE SS GUARDS AND WORKADAY VIOLENCE: THE MAJDANEK CONCENTRATION CAMP
* THE DIARY OF SAMUEL GOLFARD
* David Silberklang, GATES OF TEARS: THE HOLOCAUST IN THE LUBLIN DISTRICT
* David Bankier, EXPULSION AND EXTERMINATION
* Bettina Stangneth, EICHMANN BEFORE JERUSALEM
* Jurgen Mattaus & Frank Bajohr, THE POLITICAL DIARY OF ALFRED ROSENBERG

Ok, there's a bunch, no doubt you'll have some of these titles and have read them. So, pick one or two to start and tell us the problems you see in them.
 
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HDenier said:
You people would never read the revisionist material because some of you are not open minded. Apparently I have to be open minded, you don't....Hows that for being scholarly?
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You're wrong. Check out this blog, for example.

HDenier said:
As to the six industrial- extermination centers, keep dreaming.
"industrial-extermination centers" too funny.......Gee did these murderers go to school for that? What was it a four year college in head bashing and lampshade making? Maybe it was in the use of Zyklon-B placement..lol
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To choose two quick examples, for the core staff at the Aktion Reinhard camps, many members gained experience in mass murder in Aktion T-4, the so-called euthanasia murders. Aufseherinnen (female guards) were trained at Ravensbrück. You are not so clever as you imagine.
 
JimRizoli said:
I'm still trying to understand how it all works....Krema 1 Auschwitz....
You throw the ZB pellets through the roof, they hit the floor and Pooff!
Gas fills up the room and everyone is dead in 5-15 minutes...LOL
Ya right! Lets see you replicate that miraculous feat today.
800 people crowded in a room that was around 1000 sq ft which sure is a tight squeeze to say the least, but they did it without complaining, and forgot to notice the wooden door with a glass pane in it. Oh, and how about that room for gas tightness?
Windows, in the next room with a crematorium ready to burn everybody to ash.
Ok next joke! Yup six million Jews crowded into a room and killed with bug spray
yup sounds reasonable to me.

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JimRizoli said:
I'll chime in in case your interested about me.

I have at least 50 books, most being found at the Holocausthandbooks.com
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JimRizoli said:
You can download them as PDFs also. They are the best book IMO because they give the HoloHuxster side of things also in the comments.
I have all the pdfs and read and research things EVERYDAY.
My specialty is exposing the HoloHoax through video, had a youtube channel that had over 600 videos about 200 hundred dealing with the HoloHoax.
But the Jews made sure they got it taken down.

But I sprang up 6 more sights that now are just HoloHoax videos.
Do a search for my name or Rizolitv, there are plenty of videos out there.
I've also been interviewing the most famous Revisionist out there for my League of Extraordinary Revisionist site.
Robert Faurisson, Fred Leuchter, Germar Rudolf, Bradley Smith, Fritz Berg,
Fredrick Toben, Mark Weber, Gunther Deckert, Ben Bradberry, and some others. All on youtube for you to see.
So your not dealing with a Johnny come lately on the Revisionist scene.

Had 4 cable shows playing in my town but the Jews again made sure they got them taken down. They can't stand anything that shows their HoloHoax
to be wrong, so they conspire behind the scenes to censor me.
But the good news is Diane King has taken over and she is producing the same type shows and the Jews aren't too happy about that.
I'm sure they will devise a way to ban her as they always get their greedy censorship hands into everything that makes them look bad.

It's been a rocky road getting the message out but we will not surrender, and it they close all the media means that we use we will go on the streets.
No surrender!


Jim Rizoli
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RIZOLITV.COM
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You seem to have this discussion forum confused with an advertising venue.
 
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LemmyCaution said:
Leaving advanced rhetoric about cults and cute coinages like "Holocauster" aside, you've raised a good point. Where, "OUT of Germany," did the Nazi authorities "get the Jews"?

Bear in mind that a small minority of the Jews affected by the Final Solution were in Germany in the first place, by far the largest numbers of those involved were well out of Germany - in Poland and the USSR.

To focus this question a bit, would you be so kind as to tell us then 1) where were nearly 300,000 Jews from Warsaw gotten to during summer-fall 1942, and how you know (FYI Eric Hunt has admitted he doesn't know and asked deniers to help him with this problem), 2) to what "other places" were over 50,000 Jews from Vilnius, in Lithuania, taken during summer-fall 1941, and what evidence you base your view on, 3) where about 80,000 Jews from Lodz were taken during 1942, and how you know this, and 4) where about 75,000 French Jews and 100,000 Dutch Jews were taken during the war, and the evidence also for this? Thank you, LC
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Ahem, HDenier, what's wrong? Have no answer for these questions?
 
LeoMajor said:
Hunt has been totally debunked and his credibility is shot beyond recognition. Deniers who cite him as a respectable source defame themselves and render their argument useless. They might as well cite David Icke and the voices in their heads.
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His Majdanek video is as poorly done and dishonest as the ones on Treblinka. I know he's got a new one out but I haven't watched it, given how worthless his previous efforts are. Before HDenier gets all high and mighty, I have watched several other videos made by Hunt - and I've gotten the gist. Enough already.

This is the next generation of denial - an ex-felon cranking out error ridden, transparently dishonest videos that don't even bother paying attention to research that's being done on the Holocaust and Final Solution. I suppose they're slightly more accomplished than the stuff The Lesser Bunny does but is that an advert for denial - "slightly slicker than TLB's distortions and lies"?
 
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So you don't like Hunts video of Treblinka.....well I don't like Kurt Gersteins thoughts on what he saw in Treblinka.....120 high piles of clothes, 75 ft higH piles of shoes....
Hmmmm who is the liar here now? Yet you Skeptoids here believe this crap.....
Something definitely wrong with this picture.
And what exactly are you Skeptoids here skeptical about it's definitely not the Holohoax.... Anyone who can believe the HoloHoax nonsense spouted out by these nut cases have to look inward at themselves. I think your issues in life are more than Holohoax issues.

Jim Rizoli
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JR
 
JimRizoli said:
So you don't like Hunts video of Treblinka.....well I don't like Kurt Gersteins thoughts on what he saw in Treblinka.....120 high piles of clothes, 75 ft higH piles of shoes....
Hmmmm who is the liar here now? Yet you Skeptoids here believe this crap.....
Something definitely wrong with this picture.
And what exactly are you Skeptoids here skeptical about it's definitely not the Holohoax.... Anyone who can believe the HoloHoax nonsense spouted out by these nut cases have to look inward at themselves. I think your issues in life are more than Holohoax issues.

Jim Rizoli
CCFIILE.COM
RIZOLITV.COM



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If you continue to ramble and dither on about Gerstein I will put you on ignore. He is maybe the least important Treblinka witness and it is an open question as to whether or not he even visited the place at all. Do you have plans to discuss other Treblinka witnesses? Frantiszak Zabecki perhaps? Or is Gerstein the only one you are aware of?

Hunt has been totally discredited and is not citeble anymore. You might as well be citing Todd Akin on sexual assault.
 
LeoMajor said:
No one takes that seriously. Zuendel got utterly rag-dolled at the trial. He was totally discredited, people in the gallery laughed at him.



No one takes these figures seriously. Please keep harping on Gerstien-related strawmen, It will only drive your credibility further down. Have you looked at the materiel that I referred you to? I also take note of the fact that you have made no direct replies to either LC or myself. Are you afraid of us?
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The galley must of been friends of yours..lol... just back from their treatments.
I mention a book and you say I haven't mentioned any books. Where are your book recommendations? So far me 2 you 0...
I got more coming. Apparently this is a one way street....

I want to have a good laugh with your book recommendations.
Show me the nonsense and hearsay that in a non Jewish run court would lose hands down...

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HDenier said:
I mention a book and you say I haven't mentioned any books. Where are your book recommendations? So far me 2 you 0...
I got more coming. Apparently this is a one way street....

I want to have a good laugh with your book recommendations.
Show me the nonsense and hearsay that in a non Jewish run court would lose hands down.
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on either this page or the previous one I mentioned maybe five titles, none of which you have read. Do you even pay attention? it was in a direct reply tow you. So five for me, two for you. If this was a prizefight they would stop it right here and give me the winnings.

"Jewish run court" lol. The trial judge in Zuendels trial was not Jewish and there is only one Jewish justice on the Supreme Court as of this moment.
 
My observations on the war etc....

It seems to me that most of the Germans were the good guys, but the Jew run media has to make it look like they were the insane ones....
The bad guys IMO were the allies and then the Jews who believed the allied spun version of the HoloHoax story and ran with it to take the heat of the murderous allies who should of been the ones put on trial and executed for their war crimes against humanity. I think the Jews were fed a false horror story of what was going on in the camps by the allies so the Jews could spin it later to make it look like they were the victims.
So the Jews came out on top of it all in the end looking like the poor victims and the allies got a pass on the evil things they did.
If the Jews weren't led along by the allies there probably wouldn't of been all the lies coming from the Jews because no one in their right mind would believe them. But since the allies were the ones created the story in the first place of course they would protect the Jews later, and actually allow them to continue with their lies.

Of course I could be wrong and the Jews are the ones who got the HoloHoax thing going from the beginning too but I don't think they were onto this in the beginning but definitely found their spot in History later on after the war.
You still can find Jews today that saw nothing evil happening in the camps but they are not the ones the media goes after.
The only ones the media will use to spread their lies are the ones presenting their horror Disneyland stories.
Lets not forget Speilberg only used half of the Jews he interviewed for his HoloHoax movies. The other interviews ended up on the cutting room floor because they didn't tell the lies that Spielberg wanted told.
As they say when the legend becomes accepted as truth print the legend.....
And the Skeptoids here sure seem to like the Legend.

JR
 
JimRizoli said:
My observations on the war etc....

It seems to me that most of the Germans were the good guys, but the Jew run media has to make it look like they were the insane ones....
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Even if you ignore the Holocaust, you can't ignore their path of destruction throughout Europe, their putting people in ghettos and concentration camps, political coups, assassinations and general corruption. Nazi Germany was as close to Hell on Earth as you could get in the west back then.

The bad guys IMO were the allies and then the Jews who believed the allied spun version of the HoloHoax story and ran with it to take the heat of the murderous allies who should of been the ones put on trial and executed for their war crimes against humanity.
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Assuming you believe any of this, it is so topsy-turvy that one must wonder where exactly you get your history. The Allies weren't angels, but rewriting history to fit your bizarro world narrative is pretty stupid.
 
JimRizoli said:
the Jew run media has to make it look like they were the insane ones....

The bad guys IMO were the allies and then the Jews...

I think the Jews were fed a false horror story of what was going on in the camps by the allies so the Jews could spin it later to make it look like they were the victims...


So the Jews came out on top of it all in the end...

...all the lies coming from the Jews because no one in their right mind would believe them...

... of course they would protect the Jews later, and actually allow them to continue with their lies...

Of course I could be wrong and the Jews are the ones who got the HoloHoax thing going from the beginning too...
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It's a good thing Holocaust denial isn't anti- Semitic, huh?
 
A'isha said:
It's a good thing Holocaust denial isn't anti- Semitic, huh?
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But, but, but Jim has calmly and rationally explained that, while, golly no, there was no genocide, the Jews deserved to be murdered on account of "their treasonas goings on."


True, he dodged these questions, but, shucks, the Jews had treasonas goings on, so you see there's nothing anti-Semitic here at all. When Jim says there's treasonas goings on, the Jews must be punished, with death. That's how Holocaust denial works.
 
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