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What happened to convention bounce 4 Dems?

He's still a buffoon, but he's making progress. Something that, unfortunately, I didn't see with Sarah Palin in 2008.

Nice to have someone doing analysis and applying reason instead of emotional attacking.

Palin was no scholar but had the ability to talk off the cuff in ordinary, plain English before being picked by McCain. She had zero national experience and a short career up here. She was picked because she was a pretty woman, had a reputation as a "maverick" to match McCain, and as an unknown with no experience could, theoretically, be molded into whatever they wanted.

I watched videos of them training her in the inconsistent and murderous foreign policy - all the code words for the establishment and the buzz words for the public. The talking points. From a podium with cameras and lights for practice. She just couldn't do it.

It not only came off badly, because she couldn't deliver the Washington vocabulary and establishment line like Clinton can, but she even lost the ability to just speak in her own simple terms.

Trump on the other hand has a lot of international business experience. He's in the financial capital of the world. He's leading his own agenda, his own ideas, not memorizing someone else's spin on events.

Who knows. I don't know how to call this, I just thought people here were all underestimating Trump. I am voting third party, and it looks like about 10% of us are so far, enough to swing an election. Most are libertarian but green is growing quickly. A Bernie bump probably.

Trump could still blow it with some ghastly gaff or three, lol. But they have been on him since the beginning and its been Teflon. I too thought him a buffoon but look where he is now. Got to give respect where it is due.

Now that the WikiLeaks emails point to Hillary going along with McCainfunding ISIS/Al Qaeda & variants in Syria, in Libya too I think - the debates will force her to answer to Trump on that. She has a lot of bad coming.
 
Nice to have someone doing analysis and applying reason instead of emotional attacking.

Palin was no scholar but had the ability to talk off the cuff in ordinary, plain English before being picked by McCain. She had zero national experience and a short career up here. She was picked because she was a pretty woman, had a reputation as a "maverick" to match McCain, and as an unknown with no experience could, theoretically, be molded into whatever they wanted.

I watched videos of them training her in the inconsistent and murderous foreign policy - all the code words for the establishment and the buzz words for the public. The talking points. From a podium with cameras and lights for practice. She just couldn't do it.

It not only came off badly, because she couldn't deliver the Washington vocabulary and establishment line like Clinton can, but she even lost the ability to just speak in her own simple terms.

Trump on the other hand has a lot of international business experience. He's in the financial capital of the world. He's leading his own agenda, his own ideas, not memorizing someone else's spin on events.

Who knows. I don't know how to call this, I just thought people here were all underestimating Trump. I am voting third party, and it looks like about 10% of us are so far, enough to swing an election. Most are libertarian but green is growing quickly. A Bernie bump probably.

Trump could still blow it with some ghastly gaff or three, lol. But they have been on him since the beginning and its been Teflon. I too thought him a buffoon but look where he is now. Got to give respect where it is due.

Now that the WikiLeaks emails point to Hillary going along with McCainfunding ISIS/Al Qaeda & variants in Syria, in Libya too I think - the debates will force her to answer to Trump on that. She has a lot of bad coming.

Perhaps you could return to the thread yous started on this and provide some links? it seems what people over there are finding do not agree with your claims.
 
It not only came off badly, because she couldn't deliver the Washington vocabulary and establishment line like Clinton can, but she even lost the ability to just speak in her own simple terms.
Form not substance!?!? Never mind her monumental ignorance. Not unlike Trump.

Though I picked out just this one point, your posts defy credulity across the board.
 
Nice to have someone doing analysis and applying reason instead of emotional attacking.

Palin was no scholar but had the ability to talk off the cuff in ordinary, plain English before being picked by McCain. She had zero national experience and a short career up here. She was picked because she was a pretty woman, had a reputation as a "maverick" to match McCain, and as an unknown with no experience could, theoretically, be molded into whatever they wanted.

I watched videos of them training her in the inconsistent and murderous foreign policy - all the code words for the establishment and the buzz words for the public. The talking points. From a podium with cameras and lights for practice. She just couldn't do it.

It not only came off badly, because she couldn't deliver the Washington vocabulary and establishment line like Clinton can, but she even lost the ability to just speak in her own simple terms.

Trump on the other hand has a lot of international business experience. He's in the financial capital of the world. He's leading his own agenda, his own ideas, not memorizing someone else's spin on events.

Who knows. I don't know how to call this, I just thought people here were all underestimating Trump. I am voting third party, and it looks like about 10% of us are so far, enough to swing an election. Most are libertarian but green is growing quickly. A Bernie bump probably.

Trump could still blow it with some ghastly gaff or three, lol. But they have been on him since the beginning and its been Teflon. I too thought him a buffoon but look where he is now. Got to give respect where it is due.

Now that the WikiLeaks emails point to Hillary going along with McCainfunding ISIS/Al Qaeda & variants in Syria, in Libya too I think - the debates will force her to answer to Trump on that. She has a lot of bad coming.

Again please provide links to this story, because at the moment it's as easy to find as Trump's letter from the NFL or John Miller
 
If people think the bounce out of the convention was big (and it apparently was), wait until the polling catches up with this latest ugly Trump episode.
 
If people think the bounce out of the convention was big (and it apparently was), wait until the polling catches up with this latest ugly Trump episode.

What gets to me is why the Hell did Trump do it? Anybody with any political skill could have told him that attacking Gold Star Parents is really,really, stupid;it can gain you nothing and can hurt you a lot.
 
What gets to me is why the Hell did Trump do it? Anybody with any political skill could have told him that attacking Gold Star Parents is really,really, stupid;it can gain you nothing and can hurt you a lot.
Because he is a thin skinned, impulsive moron. It is that simple.
 
What gets to me is why the Hell did Trump do it? Anybody with any political skill could have told him that attacking Gold Star Parents is really,really, stupid;it can gain you nothing and can hurt you a lot.

All he had to do was denounce the DNC for taking advantage of the Khan's for cheap point scoring as any other politician would, but with the Donald everything has to be personalized. In his mind they insulted him, he insulted them back. Same with the NFL thing. He could just have said he heard the NFL was angry but again the ego gets in the way, the NFL has to contact him personally because he's just that important.
 
What gets to me is why the Hell did Trump do it? Anybody with any political skill could have told him that attacking Gold Star Parents is really,really, stupid;it can gain you nothing and can hurt you a lot.

It's what narcissists do. It's all about their inflated ego, which cannot stand being attacked. They live by the motto that the best defense is a good offense.
 
What gets to me is why the Hell did Trump do it? Anybody with any political skill could have told him that attacking Gold Star Parents is really,really, stupid;it can gain you nothing and can hurt you a lot.


I'm sure they did. But you know Trump...
 
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The more significant measure at the moment is not just whether one or the other is leading in today's latest poll, but where that same polling organization had the race in their previous poll.

CNN +7 Clinton -5 Trump
CBS +4 -3
LA Times +3 -2
Rasmussen +1 -1
Reuters No Change -1
Economist/YouGov +2 +1

Only YouGov, who Nate Silver rate highly, show Trump gaining even a single point, and that poll is due to be refreshed as they publish roughly every week. Every other poll has Trump dropping. His 45% was post-convention giddiness.
 
On my local Fox affiliate this morning:

"Hillary Clinton is leading Donald Trump in a new poll, this is coming from the DNC of course. A new national poll from <whatever source> shows that Hillary Clinton is leading Donald Trump 52% to 43%."

Title card on bottom of screen: "National Poll show Cinton has a slight lead over Trump". I dunno if I'd call a 9 point lead "slight".

ETA: I never watch the local morning news... I've never realized how strange it is. I'm starting to be convinced that the people on, filming, and producing the show are all at least slightly drunk.
 
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On my local fox news affiliate this morning.

"Hillary Clinton is leading Donald Trump in a new poll, this is coming from the DNC of course. A new national poll from shows that Hillary Clinton is leading Donald Trump 52% to 43%."

Title card on bottom of screen: "National Poll show Cinton has a slight lead over Trump". I dunno if I'd call a 9 point lead "slight".
That's the CNN poll. And yeah, if Hillary wins by nine points it won't be considered a close race. It will also probably result in the Democrats taking the House and definitely the Senate.
 
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