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newyorkguy said:
You know what's really ominous.

There is some evidence Vladimir Putin is the one who has set in motion a campaign to discredit Hillary Clinton on the eve of the U.S. presidential election. Why would Putin be doing this? What's in it for Putin? One possible outcome could be the election of Donald Trump as president. What does that do for Putin? Consider that Trump has-

A) Expressed admiration for Putin.
B) Has expressed hostility towards NATO and says if he were president the U.S. wouldn't automatically respond to a NATO call for help.


Do the math. :(
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Donald is very tied to Russian investment to keep his businesses going.
 
Stacko said:
Donald is very tied to Russian investment to keep his businesses going.
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All the other discussions of Trump's finances aside, his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million. This is in just one year while his liquid assets have also decreased. Trump has been blackballed by all major US banks.

Post-bankruptcy Trump has been highly reliant on money from Russia, most of which has over the years become increasingly concentrated among oligarchs and sub-garchs close to Vladimir Putin.

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication. “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
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:eye-poppi
 
this thread is too funny

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It's the wrong thread, essentially we are -- or at least so I presume -- trying to put the latest attack on Hillary (via the DNC) in context, vet it, try and understand it. But if we must:

Donald J. Trump @real DonaldTrump
For the record, I have ZERO investments in Russia.
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“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008.
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Both statements may be true. The Don may have zero invested in Russia, while many Russians may have millions invested in him. Link
 
Oh, and newyorkguy - what you quoted originally:

some hack said:
“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008, according to an account posted on the website of eTurboNews, a trade publication.
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What you made of it later:

some hack's impression left in newyorkguy's brain said:
“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008.
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Be careful or :woo
 
If anyone is questioning the quotes attributed to Donald Trump, Jr. in eTurboNews back in 2008, they're there. The article is still online. The occasion was an appearance The Don Jr. made at "Cityscape USA’s Bridging US and the Emerging Real Estate Markets Conference held in Manhattan." Here is the paragraph that has been quoted in many publications.

"And in terms of high-end product influx into the US, Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets; say in Dubai, and certainly with our project in SoHo and anywhere in New York. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia. There's indeed a lot of money coming for new-builds and resale reflecting a trend in the Russian economy and, of course, the weak dollar versus the ruble," he said. Link to eTurboNews page
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Back then Trump was a private citizen and I don't think anyone questioned what he was doing with his projects. (Ironically at the time Trump Sr. was saying Hillary Clinton would make a great president, she was a nice person and he expected she still had a good career ahead.)
 
newyorkguy said:
You know what's really ominous.

There is some evidence Vladimir Putin is the one who has set in motion a campaign to discredit Hillary Clinton on the eve of the U.S. presidential election. Why would Putin be doing this? What's in it for Putin? One possible outcome could be the election of Donald Trump as president. What does that do for Putin? Consider that Trump has-

A) Expressed admiration for Putin.
B) Has expressed hostility towards NATO and says if he were president the U.S. wouldn't automatically respond to a NATO call for help.


Do the math. :(
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Oh, yes. I have a feeling Trump's talk of abandoning NATO and its member nations gave Putin an erection that embarrassed even him.
 
sunmaster14 said:
None of these things make any sense. Let's take them one at a time.

RNC communications: Huh? What will that teach us about how the DNC was lying about being neutral in the primaries? What will that teach us about why and how top level people at the DNC felt comfortable enough to bruit about a dirty trick to help Hillary that could hurt another Democratic candidate in the general election (if it eventually came to that)?

Evidence that the plan was carried out: You're accusing Wikileaks of withholding that information? I assume that it would be worse for the DNC and Hillary if they had that information and released it, don't you think?

Rest of the emails: The DNC has it within its power to release any emails to the public it thinks might be exculpatory. It does have its own emails after all. I assume that the reasons it hasn't released any of its own is that none of them are particularly helpful in providing exculpatory context.
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Yes let's.

Regardless of talk among DNC members, the only thing that was actually done was the debate schedule and that was changed, not to mention had little to no impact.

How was the game rigged? No one has posted evidence of anything significant. Claims the media was complicit or even unfair to Sanders is unsupportable.

This whole email release is just tripe. It confirms the bias of people who want to believe the establishment prevented their Sanders revolution. The evidence does not support that claim.
 
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newyorkguy said:
You know what's really ominous.

There is some evidence Vladimir Putin is the one who has set in motion a campaign to discredit Hillary Clinton on the eve of the U.S. presidential election. Why would Putin be doing this? What's in it for Putin? One possible outcome could be the election of Donald Trump as president. What does that do for Putin? Consider that Trump has-

A) Expressed admiration for Putin.
B) Has expressed hostility towards NATO and says if he were president the U.S. wouldn't automatically respond to a NATO call for help.


Do the math. :(
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C) Wants payback because the US interfered with his election.
 
theprestige said:
That makes no sense at all.
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Wrong in the sense of tense but correct if you realize that SG was saying "Vlad the Inhaler" wanted payback for the leak of the Panama List that embarrassed him and his cronies. He blames the CIA and/or Obama administration for getting caught with his pants around his knees.

In that respect, it's as good a theory as "oh, no, really, it was some concerned citizen from Romania who doesn't exist".
 
As an outsider they both look as dodgy as ****.

Arguing over who is more dodgy is quite funny
 
TheL8Elvis said:
And Donald Trump tweeted that Russia definitely hacked Clintons email.

Other then the fact that we shouldn't listen to politicians when it comes to technical matters, your point was ... ?
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No agenda. Just passing along news.

She said she got that information from the Congressional Intelligence Committee.
 
ZiprHead said:
No agenda. Just passing along news.

She said she got that information from the Congressional Intelligence Committee.
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Sorry, I may have misinterpreted your point.

I still wouldn't place any value on Pelosis claim.
 
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