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BobTheCoward said:
An accurate enough version. If the email is true, it needs very little context.
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If it were true that little Johnny pushed his friend in the street yesterday, should he be punished while we ignore the context that Johnny actually pushed his friend out of the way of a moving car?

If it were true that (at most) 2 DNC staffers were questioning a candidate's religion in the US (where religion is a YUGE factor), does the context that they didn't actually do it not matter? Or the context that those on the right openly do question the religion of their opponents, rather than merely thinking about it before scrapping the idea?
 
fuelair said:
Don't know if it applies here, but my mother used to paly piano in a jazz trio at a strip club (no, I am not joklng) and occasionally would pass on jokes from the snappier comics. One of my favorites was from a guy who interspersed his act with songs one of which included the wonderful line: "but mother's only half a word!!!" Our asterisk censor thing sometimes reminds me of that!!!
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Damnit- play, not paly and too late to fix it!!!
 
wareyin said:
To make sure I understand what you are saying, your claim is that presenting only one skewed, cherry-picked, worst of the worst version of one side of the story in order to bias the message still presents an accurate version of the entire story?
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When one of the cherries picked is a blatant attempt to paint Bernie as an atheist so as to stop theists voting for him, the price is well worth the information.

That is truly appalling behaviour.

Thank god Hillary's such a good little christian.
 
The Atheist said:
When one of the cherries picked is a blatant attempt to paint Bernie as an atheist so as to stop theists voting for him, the price is well worth the information.

That is truly appalling behaviour.

Thank god Hillary's such a good little christian.
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I don't like that they considered it, but it is clear they never actually tried to do it.
 
Tony Stark said:
I don't like that they considered it, but it is clear they never actually tried to do it.
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Depends what constitutes an attempt, I guess. I see putting the idea out to see if it catches hold an attempt.

The Dems can at least point to it as a means of showing they're not entirely dishonorable.

Going by today's new poll results, they'll need to do something!
 
The Atheist said:
When one of the cherries picked is a blatant attempt to paint Bernie as an atheist so as to stop theists voting for him, the price is well worth the information.

That is truly appalling behaviour.

Thank god Hillary's such a good little christian.
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I quite suspect Hillary is an atheist. I certainly hope so!!!
 
The Atheist said:
Depends what constitutes an attempt, I guess. I see putting the idea out to see if it catches hold an attempt.

The Dems can at least point to it as a means of showing they're not entirely dishonorable.

Going by today's new poll results, they'll need to do something!
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Prove they put it out there rather than a couple of them briefly discussing it amongst themselves.
 
The Atheist said:
When one of the cherries picked is a blatant attempt to paint Bernie as an atheist so as to stop theists voting for him, the price is well worth the information.

That is truly appalling behaviour.

Thank god Hillary's such a good little christian.
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By asking him his beliefs ? Those painting bastards !

"It might may (sic) no difference, but for KY and WVA can we get someone to ask his belief."

:eye-poppi
 
fuelair said:
I quite suspect Hillary is an atheist. I certainly hope so!!!
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I'd hope so too, but she gives credit for her commitment to service to her Methodist upbringing. She talked about in her book how the pastor took her and others to see MLK speak. My guess is she's my kind of Christian. One who admires the teachings of JC and the community of church, but not mumbo jumbo and apocalyptic nonsense.
 
wareyin said:
If it were true that little Johnny pushed his friend in the street yesterday, should he be punished while we ignore the context that Johnny actually pushed his friend out of the way of a moving car?

If it were true that (at most) 2 DNC staffers were questioning a candidate's religion in the US (where religion is a YUGE factor), does the context that they didn't actually do it not matter? Or the context that those on the right openly do question the religion of their opponents, rather than merely thinking about it before scrapping the idea?
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I will spare a long post and just say it absolutely does not matter if a group says privately what another says publically. Because others are doing it isn't an excuse.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I will spare a long post and just say it absolutely does not matter if a group says privately what another says publically. Because others are doing it isn't an excuse.
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You don't understand the difference between debating doing something but deciding not to, and actually doing it?

eta: It does appear that some here actually think the DNC actually did ask Sanders about his religion. No, this teapot tempest is because one staffer privately floated the idea, but the idea was not agreed to or carried out.
 
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newyorkguy said:
Assange is like the people here who won't state whether they support Trump but continue to trash Hillary Clinton. In fact in many ways he's no different, he's a person of the Internet. The biggest difference is, Assange is also a hacker. The German journalist Jochen Bittner wondered why Assange never hacks Russian systems, never releases anything that would embarrass Putin. I wonder why Assange doesn't hack the RNC or Donald Trump's emails, try and embarrass them.

I think the answer to why Assange doesn't release Russian or RNC or Trump emails is pretty clear.


Assange appears to be a man on a mission. That mission is to be, "the man who brought down the United States." If you want to damage the U.S. right now, the most obvious way to do that would be to try and get Donald Trump elected president. It looks like that's exactly what Assange is trying to do. It's even been alleged Assange got most of the hacked emails from the Russian government. Whether that's true or not I don't know, I don't think anyone does. But it is very troubling.

Yet you have Americans, who are so caught up in partisan politics that they are blind to this. Exactly what Assange is counting on. Very scary.
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I recall an interview with Assange in which he claimed his motive was "crushing bastards". Now it seems he didn't complete the sentence which should read that his motive was "crushing bastards who I know won't give me a polonium enema."
 
Polaris said:
I recall an interview with Assange in which he claimed his motive was "crushing bastards". Now it seems he didn't complete the sentence which should read that his motive was "crushing bastards who I know won't give me a polonium enema."
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I think that is a totally wonderful idea for him!!!!! And he is a POS slime.
 
fuelair said:
I think that is a totally wonderful idea for him!!!!! And he is a POS slime.
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I don't want him dead, he's only guilty of being what you just called him. I'd rather he never be allowed to use the internet again and eventually die of natural causes as a forgotten nobody.
 
Polaris said:
I don't want him dead, he's only guilty of being what you just called him. I'd rather he never be allowed to use the internet again and eventually die of natural causes as a forgotten nobody.
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I'd like him to return to Sweden to face trial for a start.
 
It was suggested that Julian Assange may no longer be actively involved with Wikileaks. Presumably because he has essentially been under de facto house arrest at the Ecuadorean embassy in London for the past three years. However, all Assange needs is a computer and an Internet connection. The interview he did with Democracy Now (earlier today, July 25th, I believe), makes it clears he is still active with Wikileaks and probably still calling the shots.

Julian Assange, editor-in-chief of WikiLeaks, welcome to Democracy Now! Can you talk about this email—these emails, these 20,000 emails you have released?

JULIAN ASSANGE: Yeah, it’s quite remarkable what has happened the last few days...in this case, we knew, because of the pending DNC, because of the degree of interest in the U.S. election, we didn’t need to establish partnerships with The New York Times or The Washington Post. Link to page
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STOP THE PRESSES! OMG!

STOP THE PRESSES! OMG!

Take note in this thread! There are Shillaries admitting they think, or hope she is lying! Better late than NEVER!
BRAVO!

:dl::dl::dl:
 
wareyin said:
You don't understand the difference between debating doing something but deciding not to, and actually doing it?

eta: It does appear that some here actually think the DNC actually did ask Sanders about his religion. No, this teapot tempest is because one staffer privately floated the idea, but the idea was not agreed to or carried out.
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I am fully capable of deciding my feelings on the email in question without having to be told why that email was released to me. That is my point.
 
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