Suddenly, A Flat Earther Appears!

Nakani said:
As far as flat earthers go, Daniel is just dabbling. If you want to see the real thing click on my link and lurk around but beware, if you are the type of person that doesn't like it when people are wrong, the temptation to become a member will be irresistible.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=10.0
(I hope I did that right)
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You did it right. I went there and rightness ended.

I see what you mean.
Also noticed the number of posters with religious referenced names.

Does Alpha2Omega realize he is blaspheming to call him/herself that?
 
jaydeehess said:
You did it right. I went there and rightness ended.

I see what you mean.
Also noticed the number of posters with religious referenced names.

Does Alpha2Omega realize he is blaspheming to call him/herself that?
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Quite a few posters refer to the Round earthers as satanic and blasphemers. The funny thing is that, it's all good in the eyes of the mods because they are just telling it like it is. The Round Earthers are the trolls.
 
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Nakani said:
As far as flat earthers go, Daniel is just dabbling. If you want to see the real thing click on my link and lurk around but beware, if you are the type of person that doesn't like it when people are wrong, the temptation to become a member will be irresistible.

https://www.theflatearthsociety.org/forum/index.php?board=10.0
(I hope I did that right)
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OH MY FSM!!! Its a Stupidfest!!! That site will give you drain damage.

It should come with a warning not to drink coffee while reading!!
 
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Foster Zygote said:
A few years back there was a guy from Australia who was living in South Carolina on business for about a year. He was an amateur astronomer and attended our local astronomy club's meetings for a while. He said it was his first time in the northern hemisphere and that it still felt weird to him to see the stars revolve around the northern sky in the "wrong" direction and to see new constellations while being unable to see others that he'd grown up with.

I wonder if the zetetic cosmology cult is predominantly a northern hemisphere thing. I'm sure there are some nutters in the southern hemisphere who buy into it, but it's got to be a harder sell where you can actually see the stars turning around the southern sky. But then the geometry that disproves the flat-earth is pretty glaringly obvious from anywhere.
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In 1988/89 I spent about 8 months in England (posted to RAF Sealand in North Wales just across the border from Chester). I have relatives in Hull across the other side of England, so visiting them involved a drive along the M62 which runs roughly east-west across the north of Englands.

For the first few weeks, it was very difficult when driving east towards Hull, to fight-off the impression that I was actually driving west because the Sun was on my right (to the south)
 
Foster Zygote said:
Again, this is the sort of thing that it so easy to work out with common household items that I am left staggered by the abject stupidity of some people.
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some say that Pi will be different depending of where on Earth you measure it. Closer to Antartica it would be different.

Of course, North Hemisphere and South Hemisphere flat earthers will not measure it themselves and compare, no travel beyond the distance of tank of gas of their pickups will allow.
 
AcesHigh said:
some say that Pi will be different depending of where on Earth you measure it. Closer to Antartica it would be different.

Of course, North Hemisphere and South Hemisphere flat earthers will not measure it themselves and compare, no travel beyond the distance of tank of gas of their pickups will allow.
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Pi is always different at the far ends of the earth because it's frozen rather than fresh.
 
Repeatedly hearing the word globe reminds me of Shakespeare's Globe, not Shakespeare's Dinner Plate and...

Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And, like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp’d towers, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on, and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

― William Shakespeare, The Tempest
 
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BasqueArch said:
BA - “The shortest distance from Santiago, Chile to Sydney, Australia is due West on the Southern Hemisphere. 7058 miles.”
From Santiago (Chile) to Sydney (Australia) is due west. If you fly east from Santiago to Sydney, the distance is longer. I should have used the proper way to indicate the relative direction in lower case.
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Very well. I thought that you meant the shortest distance from Santiago to Sydney was achieved by literally flying due west (i.e., along a parallel), and obviously that is not the case, since such a route isn't a great circle.

So I don't think we're in disagreement. I was just puzzled by your choice of words.
 
BasqueArch said:
phiwum, thanks for the question. I hope my answer clarified my main point.
Also it was Daniel, not Dave that ran away.
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Yes, certainly.

I never thought that your main point was at issue. I presumed that you and I both realize that the shortest path on a globe is given by a great circle, and that your phrase "due west" was merely a bit misleading.
 
BasqueArch said:
Repeatedly hearing the word globe reminds me of Shakespeare's Globe, not Shakespeare's Dinner Plate and...

Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And, like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp’d towers, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on, and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep.

― William Shakespeare, The Tempest
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I took the tour once. Sadly, they would not let me get on stage and do my Henry V.
 
smartcooky said:
I get into my fully fuelled fictional aeroplane capable of flying anywhere in the world on one tank of fuel and I take off from Wellington Airport.

I can pick ANY random direction and fly in that direction without turning, and I will end up in Spain. That can only happen on Globe earth, and cannot happen on Flat Earth.
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I might be a little confused by your wording here. I think I know what you meant but I want to clarify. How could you take off from Wellington airport, and head due east along a parallel, and end up in the northern hemisphere?

Did you mean you could take off the runway in either direction and just keep straight?
 
bruto said:
Pi is always different at the far ends of the earth because it's frozen rather than fresh.
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english is not my native language, so it took me quite a while to think in Pi the way english speakers pronounce it, as "pie".

in my language it´s pronounced as english pee (which obviously doesn´t mean urine), since that is the correct sound of the vowel I... a single sound, unlike english vowels, which ALL have diphtong sounds (all english vowels have the sounds of two vowels.
 
bonzombiekitty said:
I might be a little confused by your wording here. I think I know what you meant but I want to clarify. How could you take off from Wellington airport, and head due east along a parallel, and end up in the northern hemisphere?
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The point was that "heading due east" isn't a straight direction unless you're on the equator. If you pick any heading and just go straight, you will be travelling a great circle and eventually end up on the exact opposite side of the globe. The lines of latitude are not these straight headings (but lines of longitude are).
 
AcesHigh said:
english is not my native language, so it took me quite a while to think in Pi the way english speakers pronounce it, as "pie".

in my language it´s pronounced as english pee (which obviously doesn´t mean urine), since that is the correct sound of the vowel I... a single sound, unlike english vowels, which ALL have diphtong sounds (all english vowels have the sounds of two vowels.
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And the history of that is actually quite interesting.
 
AdamSK said:
The point was that "heading due east" isn't a straight direction unless you're on the equator. If you pick any heading and just go straight, you will be travelling a great circle and eventually end up on the exact opposite side of the globe. The lines of latitude are not these straight headings (but lines of longitude are).
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The ambiguity here has to do with the notion of "straight" (or "line").

In terms of spherical geometry, a straight line (i.e., a line) is a great circle.

It's not obvious to me that a pilot flies "straight" (that is, doesn't need to change his direction) when he follows a great circle. I don't fly and I don't sail in anything like a straight line (in either sense) and my imagination is limited. Does a pilot essentially hold the controls steady on a great circle? Does he have to change course regularly when he's flying along a parallel?
 
I wish I still worked at Boeing so I could ask the autopilot guys how they program a great circle. I suspect, in fact I'm fairly sure, that it's done as a series of discrete points rather than a continuous arc.

I once got delivered with an airplane making its delivery flight to Singapore. Spectacular views of the Aleutians and Japan along the way. Try mapping that on your flat earth!
 
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