Merged New telepathy test: which number did I write ?

[abaddon]

Because I want to make the task of participating in the test as easy as I can for you. This is an important aspect of any realistic telepathy test.

This test is no different than your other tests. All you did was change the lables on the choices.

You, like everyone else in the world, ARE NOT TELEPATHIC. Get over it.

 

[Michel H]

...
So... Julie Andrews is 80 years old. ...
Norm

Thank you for the movie history lesson.

However, while Julie Andrews is now old, Mary Poppins in the movie is eternally young. When I try to correlate your intuitions (this is not the first time) with events in my modest life, it's up to you to tell me if I was accurate (or maybe not).

 

[Stuart]

Sorry the only things that that came into my mind at that time was Heather Watson and Henri Kontine.

A not surprising* fail










* 'Cos telepathy doesn't exist

 

[Jack by the hedge]

If you thought we could hear you, why did you need to post the invitation here?

Not sure I understand what you mean, Jack.

Quite simply, if you truly believe that people all over the planet hear your every thought, why do you have to type your invitations here, instead of simply issuing instructions telepathically, merely by thinking them?

PS You might remember some years ago I offered a thousand pounds to anyone who rang the phone number I was thinking of and said the code word I was thinking of. I still have the same number and the offer is still open. You could do something similar. There are billions of people on the planet who could make very good use of even a relatively small sum of money, and if you locate a cooperative, reliable 'receiver', your guaranteed celebrity means you both stand to become very wealthy indeed.

Of course that outcome depends on telepathy being real, which it isn't.

 

[Michel H]

Quite simply, if you truly believe that people all over the planet hear your every thought, why do you have to type your invitations here, instead of simply issuing instructions telepathically, merely by thinking them?

PS You might remember some years ago I offered a thousand pounds to anyone who rang the phone number I was thinking of and said the code word I was thinking of. I still have the same number and the offer is still open. You could do something similar. There are billions of people on the planet who could make very good use of even a relatively small sum of money, and if you locate a cooperative, reliable 'receiver', your guaranteed celebrity means you both stand to become very wealthy indeed.

Of course that outcome depends on telepathy being real, which it isn't.

You said, about two years ago:

Oh, well if you want evidence that should only take a few minutes.

My test protocol:

I will spend the next five minutes thinking about my phone number, thinking about a password and thinking about the £1,000 cash prize I will give to the first telepathic person anywhere on the planet who simply rings the number and says the password.

Lines are open now, clock is ticking.

However, you should realize, when designing a telepathy test, that there are things that people can do, are (perhaps) able to do on the one hand, and there are things that people are willing to do, on the other hand. These two things do not necessarily coincide.

This is one thing that some "pseudo-skeptics" seem to have difficulty understanding. Even if some people know that you are intensely thinking (about) the word "Westminster" for example, they will not necessarily tell you so, and in the simple way that you would like. Basically, people say what they want to say, and they evaluate possible risks, what they perceive as advantages and disadvantages of possible responses.

 

[Donn]

This is one thing that some "pseudo-skeptics" seem to have difficulty understanding. Even if some people know that you are intensely thinking (about) the word "Westminster" for example, they will not necessarily tell you so, and in the simple way that you would like. Basically, people say what they want to say, and they evaluate possible risks, what they perceive as advantages and disadvantages of possible responses.

People are like people. News at eleven.

 

[Pixel42]

Actually most people would be extremely excited if they could hear someone else's thoughts. A genuine, provable case of telepathy would be the discovery of the century. It certainly wouldn't be something most people would keep quiet about, for one thing there would be a good deal of money to be made out of it.

 

[fromdownunder]

Wait, wait, wait... another word has popped into my brain

Antidisestablishmentarianism

Michel, are you trying to confuse us with your clues or are there more powerful telepaths out there who are drowning your low level abilities with their stronger powers? After all, with over 7 Billion people on this mudball you cannot be the only one, unless you think that you are The Highlander, so why am I being drowned in other people's thoughts and not yours?

And by the way

When I try to correlate your intuitions (this is not the first time) with events in my modest life, it's up to you to tell me if I was accurate (or maybe not).

You are not accurate, and never have been. You have not got the faintest clue as to who I am and how I live my life. So stop pretending to be some sort of guru who "knows secrets". You are not very good at it.

Norm

 

[Jack by the hedge]

However, you should realize, when designing a telepathy test, that there are things that people can do, are (perhaps) able to do on the one hand, and there are things that people are willing to do, on the other hand. These two things do not necessarily coincide.





This is one thing that some "pseudo-skeptics" seem to have difficulty understanding.

If I had any difficulty understanding that, then perhaps I would not be the one proposing that you incentivise respondents with a significant cash prize. You noticed that I did that, right? Because if you noticed it, it's really strange that you should then lecture me on how you think people might hear you but choose not to respond, as if I hadn't thought of that.



Anyway, think about the 7 billion people you imagine can hear your thoughts. Imagine what proportion are in dire financial straits, or would just quite like some easy cash, or would like to donate it to charity. Offering them a thousand Euros to ring a phone number and say a word would illicit more calls than your local telephone exchange can bear, but you won't even try it.



I have concluded that this is because in your heart of hearts you know you are not really telepathic, and you would rather keep tinkering around playing at testing yourself rather than conduct a test that clearly demonstrates you aren't telepathic.

 

[abaddon]

You said, about two years ago:

However, you should realize, when designing a telepathy test, that there are things that people can do, are (perhaps) able to do on the one hand, and there are things that people are willing to do, on the other hand. These two things do not necessarily coincide.

This is one thing that some "pseudo-skeptics" seem to have difficulty understanding. Even if some people know that you are intensely thinking (about) the word "Westminster" for example, they will not necessarily tell you so, and in the simple way that you would like. Basically, people say what they want to say, and they evaluate possible risks, what they perceive as advantages and disadvantages of possible responses.

Why do you need a test? Why do you need to even perform a test? Out front, it is your claim that everyone hears you by default.

 

[fromdownunder]

Why do you need a test? Why do you need to even perform a test? Out front, it is your claim that everyone hears you by default.

Well that seems to be the claim. Seven Billion plus people constantly hear Michel's thoughts. Language issues immediately spring to mind.

Norm

 

[Michel H]

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Anyway, think about the 7 billion people you imagine can hear your thoughts. Imagine what proportion are in dire financial straits, or would just quite like some easy cash, or would like to donate it to charity. Offering them a thousand Euros to ring a phone number and say a word would illicit more calls than your local telephone exchange can bear, but you won't even try it.
...

Hmm, you probably meant "elicit"

 

[Drs_Res]

I keep hearing this word:

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

Whoever is doing this......STOP IT RIGHT NOW!!

It's just a joke. I should not need to say this, but I feel I must in this thread.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Hmm, you probably meant "elicit"

Yes, I did mean elicit. Either I mistyped or my phone 'autocorrected' it.

Do you have any response to the substance of what I wrote, or was my poor grammar the only thing you noticed?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Well that seems to be the claim. Seven Billion plus people constantly hear Michel's thoughts. Language issues immediately spring to mind.

I suppose the determined fantasist might handwave that away by claiming that it's somehow the thought concept which is transmitted, rather than the actual words for it in any particular language.

On the other hand, I still want to know where all the Facebook groups are where people all over the world chat about whatever the psychic guy in Belgium is thinking today.

I mean we live in a world where almost literally nothing - not even a sandwich or a cup of coffee - is so mundane or trivial that someone will not share it on the internet for their nebulous acquaintances to validate it with their faithless Likes.

So where is the background chatter about the background chatter we are all supposed to hear? Who Liked what Michel had for supper? Nobody? Who Liked that show he watched on TV? Nobody? Bit of a patten developing.

It's almost as if nobody can hear him. In fact, it's exactly like nobody can hear him.

 

[Michel H]

Yes, I did mean elicit. Either I mistyped or my phone 'autocorrected' it.

Do you have any response to the substance of what I wrote, or was my poor grammar the only thing you noticed?

I find it hard to believe that you correctly typed "elicit", and that your "evil" phone changed it to "illicit". "elicit" is not such a rare word.

Regarding substance, there just seems to be a great reluctance in the world, within society, to accept my apparent "telepathy", there seems to be a kind of "blackout" on this (apparent) phenomenon. I suppose it is an illusion to think you can change that overnight by just offering one thousand pounds or one thousand euros for a single strange phone call.

... it's somehow the thought concept which is transmitted, rather than the actual words for it in any particular language.
...

Yes, there is probably some truth in this.

 

[Ron Swanson]

I find it hard to believe that you correctly typed "elicit", and that your "evil" phone changed it to "illicit". "elicit" ....

It depends on your use of the words on the device in equation ... the spell check learns from your typing and the users more frequent or common use of words ..

I just tried Elicit with an "i" at the start (on my iPhone 6) ... and Elicit with 2 "L"s and they both changed to Illicit

On my computer they both defaulted correctly to Elicit

 

[MikeG]

.......Yes, there is probably some truth in this.

Yep, in opposite world where "some" equals "none".

No-one on the planet is telepathic, because telepathy only exists in the imagination.

 

[Daylightstar]

... my apparent "telepathy", ...

No such thing is apparent though.

 

[Jack by the hedge]

I find it hard to believe that you correctly typed "elicit", and that your "evil" phone changed it to "illicit". "elicit" is not such a rare word.

By conducting a simple experiment I am now able to confirm that if 'elicit' is properly typed then my phone does not change it to 'illicit'. Therefore I must have typed it incorrectly. Whether or not I actually typed 'illicit' remains moot, though I am inclined to presume I did.

Regarding substance, there just seems to be a great reluctance in the world, within society, to accept my apparent "telepathy", there seems to be a kind of "blackout" on this (apparent) phenomenon.

I believe it's the fact that the phenomenon is not apparent which makes almost everyone doubt it.

I suppose it is an illusion to think you can change that overnight by just offering one thousand pounds or one thousand euros for a single strange phone call.

I suppose you choose to suppose that because you wish to avoid confronting your lack of telepathy.

Yes, there is probably some truth in this [suggestion that concepts rather than words might be transmitted].

I don't agree that it is probable. I think the whole thing is deeply improbable. There's no worthwhile evidence the phenomenon even exists and there's no plausible mechanism by which it might operate.