Suddenly, A Flat Earther Appears!

[Kid Eager]

Since there are no 'coherent' answers to the "Spinning Ball" annihilators:

1. Entropy
2. Coriolis Effect
3. Naval Rail Gun

Still ignoring the utter destruction of the listed claims, I see...

I'm sure your definition of 'coherent' must be extremely entertaining....

"Selective Blindness": Check

Oh, and for Hubble:

"However, analysis by NASA during 2005 indicates that Hubble is unlikely to make an uncontrolled reentry until at least 2020, rather than 2012 as previously believed, and the agency now considers the deorbiting issue to be “beyond the budget horizon"

But then again, it may be the Illuminati claiming that....

 

[Craig4]

Since there are no 'coherent' answers to the "Spinning Ball" annihilators:

1. Entropy
2. Coriolis Effect
3. Naval Rail Gun

(ps. Don't worry, I posted these to a University Chair astrophysicist...he called me names. LOL)

Let's try some Stamp on the Forehead motifs:


Hubble Telescope:


So the Hubble Telescope (HST) @ ~340 Miles above the Earth. "Hubble doesn't even have a Propulsion System so it can't possibly change it's orbit by itself" (HST Deputy Missions Operation Manager --- Mike Myslinski nasa)-- Planate Veritas Phone Interview.

Even though its about 100 miles above the ISS, HST still suffers from Orbital Decay (Atmospheric Drag). There are many variables to consider (Sun Cycle ect); however, we can reasonably calculate a "Ball Park" figure. I've seen a few approximations for the ISS orbital decay....it comes in about 1-2 miles every 95 minutes or so (1 Orbit). Both ISS and Hubble orbit the Earth roughly 15 times/day ( www.heavens-above.com/orbit.aspx?satid=20580 )

The last servicing mission for HST was 11 May 2009 (STS-125). So from then until this year 11 May 2016 is 7 Years.

Let's give an EXTREME benefit of the doubt and say HST only suffers Orbital Decay @ a Quarter of a Mile per Orbit. So....

Hubble Telescope Altitude: 340 Miles


Loss in altitude per day (15 orbits): 3.75 miles

Loss in altitude per year: 1368 miles !!!

Loss in altitude in 7 YEARS: 9,581 Miles !!!!

The Hubble Telescope should be 9,574 Miles beneath the Mariana Trench !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1/8th of a Mile 'Orbital Decay' per orbit...

Loss in altitude per day: 1.87 Miles

Loss in altitude per year: 684 Miles

Loss of altitude in 7 Years: 4,790 Miles

The Hubble Telescope should be 4,784 Miles beneath the Mariana Trench !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


1/16th of a Mile 'Orbital Decay' per orbit ...

Loss in altitude per day: .93 Miles

Loss in altitude per year: 342 Miles

Loss of altitude in 7 Years: 2,395 Miles

The Hubble Telescope should be 2,389 Miles beneath the Mariana Trench !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


too funny

This is a lot of work for a thought experiment.

 

[Daniel]

Thanks for your brain sapping assessment.

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." -- Socrates

Right out of the gate for you. Thanks for Illustrating

Hubble decays in a non linear way...

Astonishing!! Well That Explains it.

the density of atmospheric drag is an equivalence of gravity

You must have missed this post...

www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11365069&postcount=203

It is extremely slow and much less than the rather moronic 1/16th mile per orbit.

Ahhh, 1/16th of a mile is a mere 330 feet...ERR, 110 yards !! LOL
Aaron Rodgers could get well past that with 2 Passes!

Are you saying Hubble's Orbital decay is less than 110 Yards per orbit??

Please SUPPORT your mind-numbing claim here....?

Anyway, since you are here, please explain what the force is that keeps you on the ground.

Density and Electrostatic Dipoles.


regards

 

[smartcooky]

Now, can you please tell me how you can have a Vacuum attached to a Non-Vacuum and still retain the properties of each in the same system, simultaneously?

The thing that keeps you floating off into space is the same thing that keeps the atmosphere floating off into space.... gravity!

Air molecules have mass, so they are influenced by gravity.

 

[Daniel]

OK.

So the Sun is 2,500 miles above the surface of the flat Earth.

Give or take a few miles.

Now, during high summer

High Summer?? Are you referencing Cheech and Chong here?

it can be verified that as it passes directly above at it's zenith of 90 degrees, as near as need be, it will be setting 6000 miles away due East.

Do you dispute that, if so how, since it can easily be verified.

Sounds about right.

I would point you to any number of websites showing regional sunsets.

Sunset's?? Thanks for reminding me...

So can you explain how you have these on a "Ball"...

It's the simple things that resonate the loudest, eh?


regards

 

[Daniel]

The thing that keeps you floating off into space is the same thing that keeps the atmosphere floating off into space.... gravity!

Air molecules have mass, so they are influenced by gravity.

Ahh "gravity" ... that was Shellacked some time ago, SEE: www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11365069&postcount=203

After you get done reconciling that (which you never will), Please post ONE EXPERIMENT where the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is overcome by fairytale "gravity"...?

You'd have better chances resurrecting Alexander The Great's Horse!!!


regards

 

[jaydeehess]

What's wrong with having those on 'ball' with a diameter of several thousand miles? You expect to see the curve?

 

[Kid Eager]

"When there's no logical refutation available, made-up quotes attributed to Socrates will suffice." - Albert Einstein

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." -- Socrates

Ahh "gravity" ... that was Shellacked some time ago, SEE: www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11365069&postcount=203

After you get done reconciling that (which you never will), Please post ONE EXPERIMENT where the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is overcome by fairytale "gravity"...?

You'd have better chances resurrecting Alexander The Great's Horse!!!


regards

Argument from Incredulity

 

[smartcooky]

Ahh "gravity" ... that was Shellacked some time ago, SEE: www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11365069&postcount=203

Supporting your absurd claim with your own evidence-free absurdities has a name... its called a self-sustaining delusion.

The stupidity of your claims leaves me only one course of action, which I will take forthwith.

I strongly urge others take the same action.

 

[Kid Eager]

What's wrong with having those on 'ball' with a diameter of several thousand miles? You expect to see the curve?

Lol... you fell for the Wookie Defence. Dude, stay focused!

 

[Trebuchet]

Question for Daniel: When you descend into the sea, does the pressure increase as you go down? Why, or why not?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Now, can you please tell me how you can have a Vacuum attached to a Non-Vacuum and still retain the properties of each in the same system, simultaneously?

So, you are incapable of conceiving of a pressure gradient. Consider the ocean as a system: How can it be that the pressure at the surface matches atmospheric pressure, yet just 10 metres down the pressure has doubled? If the pressure is so high down there why doesn't increasing entropy just make it equalise?

Is it possible there is some force acting on the water and keeping it there? A force which somehow overcomes entropy. Some strange phenomenon whose effect is as if there were an attractive force acting between masses perhaps. That would be consistent with observation.

 

[Blue Mountain]

"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." -- Socrates

Quotation fail.

So far as we can tell, the phrase "when the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser" emerged roughly around 2008 and appears to have no traceable history prior to that. Despite its popularity on social media, no one has ever found a single direct link to any material attributed to Socrates matching the quote

Socrates Conflates (snopes.com)

And by the way, with regard to a flat earth, does it have a motion relative to its centre (rotation) or relative to the sun (revolution)?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

1. Entropy
2. Coriolis Effect
3. Naval Rail Gun

(ps. Don't worry, I posted these to a University Chair astrophysicist...he called me names. LOL)

Which astrophysicist did you post them to?

 

[Trebuchet]

So, you are incapable of conceiving of a pressure gradient. Consider the ocean as a system: How can it be that the pressure at the surface matches atmospheric pressure, yet just 10 metres down the pressure has doubled? If the pressure is so high down there why doesn't increasing entropy just make it equalise?

Is it possible there is some force acting on the water and keeping it there? A force which somehow overcomes entropy. Some strange phenomenon whose effect is as if there were an attractive force acting between masses perhaps. That would be consistent with observation.

That's just what The Illuminati want you to think!

Anyone notice how Daniel shifted from flat-earth to heliocentrism in his sunset example?

 

[Craig4]

Ahh "gravity" ... that was Shellacked some time ago, SEE: www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11365069&postcount=203

After you get done reconciling that (which you never will), Please post ONE EXPERIMENT where the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics is overcome by fairytale "gravity"...?

You'd have better chances resurrecting Alexander The Great's Horse!!!


regards

Why are you acting like you're winning here?

 

[Jack by the hedge]

Why are you acting like you're winning here?

It's adorable that he thinks that blizzard of mathematical incompetence is an ace card. But kinda sad too.

 

[sts60]

I'm thinking deliberate chain-yanking. But since the Earth is observed to be roughly spherical, and since I've helped build and operate satellites that go around our nice round world, well, either way I've already settled the "question" to my own satisfaction.

 

[Daniel]

Question for Daniel: When you descend into the sea, does the pressure increase as you go down? Why, or why not?

Yea. Well the weight of the water increases as you descend.

good?

 

[Daniel]

Anyone notice how Daniel shifted from flat-earth to heliocentrism in his sunset example?

You busted me!! I conceived the plan 8 years 3 months and 2 days ago and finally released it, and you caught me.

You old hound dog, can't get anything by you


regards