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Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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RobRoy said:
Great. So please explain to me what you actually meant.
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In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect. Although we don’t normally make public our recommendations to the prosecutors, we frequently make recommendations and engage in productive conversations with prosecutors about what resolution may be appropriate, given the evidence. In this case, given the importance of the matter, I think unusual transparency is in order.

Although there is evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information, our judgment is that no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case. Prosecutors necessarily weigh a number of factors before bringing charges. There are obvious considerations, like the strength of the evidence, especially regarding intent. Responsible decisions also consider the context of a person’s actions, and how similar situations have been handled in the past.

In looking back at our investigations into mishandling or removal of classified information, we cannot find a case that would support bringing criminal charges on these facts. All the cases prosecuted involved some combination of: clearly intentional and willful mishandling of classified information; or vast quantities of materials exposed in such a way as to support an inference of intentional misconduct; or indications of disloyalty to the United States; or efforts to obstruct justice. We do not see those things here.

To be clear, this is not to suggest that in similar circumstances, a person who engaged in this activity would face no consequences. To the contrary, those individuals are often subject to security or administrative sanctions. But that is not what we are deciding now.

As a result, although the Department of Justice makes final decisions on matters like this, we are expressing to Justice our view that no charges are appropriate in this case.
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I have hilighted the parts you may wish to focus on.
 
The most interesting part of Comey's announcement to me was the fact that he specifically mentioned that, while criminal charges were not warranted, the finding of "extreme carelessness" would typically result in administrative action. Virtually every expert I've heard of (and my own experience as a federal employee and attorney) tells me that, at the very least, such action would be to strip HRC of security clearance. Mishandling of emails characterized as 'top secret' is the first clue. Now, granted, she no longer is SOS, but this begs the question: How does one who is underserving of security clearance assume the office of POTUS, which presumes ultimate say in security clearance matters??
 
16.5 said:
I have hilighted the parts you may wish to focus on.
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They do but even you have to admit that they almost always follow the FBI's lead, particularly when they recommend no charges. The Republican FBI chief did as much as he could with his language.
 
RobRoy said:
Especially given that Lynch, just days ago, said she would abide by the FBI recommendation.
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Jrrarglblarg said:
Yeah, I'll betcha two cents 16.5 doubles down instead of comprehending.
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Face palm.

did either of you read that article. Did either of you read the headline to the article?

Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch said Friday that she would accept recommendations from career prosecutors and FBI agents leading the probe into the use of a private email server by Hillary Clinton during her time as secretary of state — though she stopped short of fully removing herself or other political appointees from the case.
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Comey said, as I have quoted, that "In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect."

Ok, guys, it is really important to read the links you post lest you miss the point and mislead other people.
 
16.5 said:
Face palm.

did either of you read that article. Did either of you read the headline to the article?



Comey said, as I have quoted, that "In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect."

Ok, guys, it is really important to read the links you post lest you miss the point and mislead other people.
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16.5 said:
Face palm.

did either of you read that article. Did either of you read the headline to the article?



Comey said, as I have quoted, that "In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect."

Ok, guys, it is really important to read the links you post lest you miss the point and mislead other people.
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LOL
 
16.5 said:
Face palm.

did either of you read that article. Did either of you read the headline to the article?



Comey said, as I have quoted, that "In our system, the prosecutors make the decisions about whether charges are appropriate based on evidence the FBI has helped collect."

Ok, guys, it is really important to read the links you post lest you miss the point and mislead other people.
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It's clear to me that you suffer from both a lack of comprehension and an inability to apply simple deduction.
 
acbytesla said:
It's clear to me that you suffer from both a lack of comprehension and an inability to apply simple deduction.
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He's a fanatical hater of Hillary and really badly wanted this to be the silver bullet that finally took her out.

LOL
 
acbytesla said:
It's clear to me that you suffer from both a lack of comprehension and an inability to apply simple deduction.
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'k.

Sure that does not address the issue at all, but you went with it. Cool!

Career prosecutors will make the final determination, which is based on but not bound by the FBI recommendation. Lynch said that she will defer to those career prosecutors.

The FBI's recommendation is not the final word. Persuasive? Maybe, but I have already pointed out a major flaw.

Any questions?

drops the *********** mic
 
16.5 said:
'k.

Sure that does not address the issue at all, but you went with it. Cool!

Career prosecutors will make the final determination, which is based on but not bound by the FBI recommendation. Lynch said that she will defer to those career prosecutors.

The FBI's recommendation is not the final word. Persuasive? Maybe, but I have already pointed out a major flaw.

Any questions?

drops the *********** mic
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I agree, the final decision is not wIth the FBI. But it's over. The DOJ is not going to ignore the FBI's recommendations. As Dana Carvey said doing his his impression of George Bush Senior "not gonna do it"
 
RobRoy said:
Especially given that Lynch, just days ago, said she would abide by the FBI recommendation.

So, uh, yeah. Bets anyone?
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And just days ago, hoping that Reagan's Extrapolated Twelfth Commandment would come into play, the Hillary Haters didn't want to hear about that.

Reagan's 11th: No Republican Shall Speak Ill of Another Republican
New GOP Extrapolated 12th: No Republican shall do anything that could help a Democrat.

Thinking the entire political world has their own partisan myopia, they didn't want to hear that Comey could recommend putting her in stocks, but the senior prosecutors on her staff could still recommend "no charges". They figured a good Republican is bound to want to prosecute. This comes from years of being shameless partisan hacks, themselves and not understanding that there are some people who are actually honorable.

[Rule of] So now they're left grasping at the straws that a Democratic DoJ and AG can still pull their embarrased fat out of the fire. At most, they can buy themselves a few more moments of fame. Just as the "stand down" allowed them to slither off after the Benghazi Anti-Report, they now need to hide behind "neener neener it was a criminal investigation" and "it's not over until the fat lady sings". By the time there's some footnote issued from DoJ, they'll all be curled up in a fetal position with their favorite blankie, sucking their foul-tasting conservative thumbs, saying "But it can't be over. Drudge and Hannity promised. I won't give up. Mom's making pudding today. It'll all be better with some pudding."
 
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The notion that the DOJ might ignore the recommendation of the Republican FBI director and indict her anyway is flat out insane. So it is no wonder that 16.5 is pushing it.

Even if the DOJ wanted to, the fact that Comey has publicly come out against charges creates enough reasonable doubt that she would never be convicted. And no way are they going to bring charges against Hillary if the case isn't 100% airtight.
 
Foolmewunz said:
And just days ago, hoping that Reagan's Extrapolated Twelfth Commandment would come into play, the Hillary Haters didn't want to hear about that.

Reagan's 11th: No Republican Shall Speak Ill of Another Republican
New GOP Extrapolated 12th: No Republican shall do anything that could help a Democrat.

Thinking the entire political world has their own partisan myopia, they didn't want to hear that Comey could recommend putting her in stocks, but the senior prosecutors on her staff could still recommend "no charges". They figured a good Republican is bound to want to prosecute. This comes from years of being shameless partisan hacks, themselves and not understanding that there are some people who are actually honorable.

[Rule of] So now they're left grasping at the straws that a Democratic DoJ and AG can still pull their embarrased fat out of the fire. At most, they can buy themselves a few more moments of fame. Just as the "stand down" allowed them to slither off after the Benghazi Anti-Report, they now need to hide behind "neener neener it was a criminal investigation" and "it's not over until the fat lady sings". By the time there's some footnote issued from DoJ, they'll all be curled up in a fetal position with their favorite blankie, sucking their foul-tasting conservative thumbs, saying "But it can't be over. Drudge and Hannity promised. I won't give up. Mom's making pudding today. It'll all be better with some pudding."
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A lot of people aren't following Reagan's commandment this election with Trump as their nominee.
 
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