You mean like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqnKmoZEuUw
Please explain: boat/buoy @ :07 - :40, buoy @ 1:57 - 2:48.
You're telling me.
regards
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You mean like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqnKmoZEuUw
Please explain: boat/buoy @ :07 - :40, buoy @ 1:57 - 2:48.
You're telling me.
regards
Andy_Ross
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But we can see from the manuals, training and calculations fir firing solutions that Artillery Officers do take the rotation of the Earth in to account. At cliser ranges it isn't that important but out at 20,000 yards or more it becomes an important factor and is applied either by standard look up tables or more usualy in the modern era automatically by the computer.
I have WW2 vintage Royal Navy gunnery manuals and the latitude has to be entered in to the Fire Control system to allow for the effect.
I have WW2 vintage Royal Navy gunnery manuals and the latitude has to be entered in to the Fire Control system to allow for the effect.
Andy_Ross
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Marine Corps Manual- Field Artillery Manual Cannon Gunnery- "Deviations From Standard Conditions. - Rotation of the earth."
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/fm6-40-ch3.htm
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/docs/fm6-40-ch3.htm
Nakani
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Maybe they found out you are a flat earther and didn't want to waste countless hours trying to explain it to you.
2. You've unwittingly imploded your entire argument. If you Invoke "Coriolis Force" with Bullets/Artillary... then you MUST invoke it with Aircraft
Please Explain...
So with the unproven "presupposition" of the Earth spinning from West to East @ roughly 1,000 mph, How on Earth can you have a Plane Take Off (NOT FIXED to the ROTATIONAL FRAME OF REFERENCE) from New York to Los Angeles (~5hrs 45 min) --- traveling in the opposing direction of rotation, have the same Flight Time as a the return trip (LA to NY) -- traveling with the rotation??
The westbound flight from NY to LA, say @ 500 mph typical cruising speed, would have a higher relative speed --- i.e., you need to add the speed of the opposing ROTATIONAL FRAME OF REFERENCE of the Earth 1,000 mph to the Plane's Speed; i.e., 500 mph + 1000 mph = 1500 mph.
The eastbound flight from LA to NY will immediately "Slip Out" of the ROTATIONAL FRAME OF REFERENCE upon Take Off/climbing to cruising altitude --- and @ the same 500 mph ---which has to be subtracted from the ROTATIONAL FRAME OF REFERENCE since that's the same direction; i.e., 1000 mph (Earth's Rotational Speed) - 500 mph (Plane's Speed) = 500 mph, will not only "Conceptually" take 3 TIMES as long, but Practically, "In Reality"..... NEVER CATCH UP to it's Destination (NY) before it gets BUM RUSHED by said Destination @ 500 mph!!!
What if the LA runway is facing west and the plane takes off in a westerly direction...then turns east? Where did it's "Alleged" 1,000 mph "momentum" go...?
Furthermore, why couldn't East Coasters not just hop in a Air Balloon or a Helicopter and hover (Not FIXED to the ROTATIONAL FRAME OF REFERENCE) for 3 hours and catch a Dodger Game...?
Thanks, Priceless.
The air is rotating with the earth. Bullets don't use the air to stay aloft, airplanes do.
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Border Reiver
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As an artilleryman for the last 30 years, I can tell you that you're wrong. The firing tables for all weapons have included a table to account for the rotation of the earth since WWII at least.
Already did! I've imploded it's entire Mytho-matheMagical Premise before he started, here:
www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=11365069&postcount=203
And "equations" aren't SCIENCE, for goodness sakes.
Yes, it's called the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics (Entropy)...
Law of Entropy: Unless it is hindered "purposely", in "Nature"....
Heat Flows from Hot to Cold (Always!), Energy Concentrated to Dispersed (Always!), High Pressure to Low Pressure (Always!).
"Gas expansion into a vacuum, mixing of ideal gases or liquids, diffusion, effusion, colligative effects, and osmosis each fundamentally involves an increase in entropy due to increased dispersion of energy (with no change in total energy in the case of ideal substances) due to a greater number of microstates for the particular system involved."
entropysite.oxy.edu/entropy_is_simple/
"In classical thermodynamics, it is viewing entropy increase as a measure of the dispersal of energy from localized to spread out at a given temperature. In "molecular thermodynamics" it is considering the change in a system (or surroundings or their total) for which there are fewer accessible microstates to one for which there is an increased number of accessible microstates."
entropysite.oxy.edu/entropy_is_simple/
“There is thus no justification for the view, often glibly repeated, that the Second Law of Thermodynamics is only statistically true, in the sense that microscopic violations repeatedly occur, but never violations of any serious magnitude. On the contrary, no evidence has ever been presented that the Second Law breaks down under any circumstances.”
A.B. Pippard, Elements of Chemical Thermodynamics for Advanced Students of Physics (1966), p. 100.
He's talking to you...
“If your theory is found to be against the second law of thermodynamics, I can give you no hope; there is nothing for [your theory] but to collapse in the deepest humiliation.”
Arthur S. Eddington, The Nature of the Physical World (1930), p. 74.
1. Have you been into "Space" and seen that the Earth is a "Ball" ?
2. This guy was "High" Enough...
Dr. Auguste Piccard (Physicist): First man to reach the Stratosphere (May 27, 1931) a record altitude of 15,781 m (51,775 ft)...
Popular Science Magazine 1931: Ten Miles High in an Air-Tight Ball:
"Through portholes the observers saw the earth through copper-colored then bluish haze. It seemed a Flat Disc with Upturned edge".
books.google.com/books?id=BCgDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA23&lpg=PA23&dq=Popular+Science+Magazine+1931:+Ten+Miles+High+in+an+Airtight+Balloon+It+seemed+a+Flat+Disc+with+Upturned+edge&source=bl&ots=8AQtL-Exhp&sig=IkxakypaJ4-JkXwuxVrrNP9wU90&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiOycqQiJHNAhUCdlIKHfDLBX4Q6AEIHDAA#v=onepage&q=Popular%20Science%20Magazine%201931%3A%20Ten%20Miles%20High%20in%20an%20Airtight%20Balloon%20It%20seemed%20a%20Flat%20Disc%20with%20Upturned%20edge&f=false
All I needed was this Time Lapse from Galileo (LOL)...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VWM0XswwGg
Who are you Jeanne Dixon?? What was your Independent Variable...your Imagination?
You do understand that there's a difference between Scientific 'Predictions' and Jeanne Dixon, Edgar Cayce, Nostradamus 'Predictions', right? (It's obviously rhetorical).
Let's TEST your "Predicting" Acumen...What's my Favorite Color?
Perhaps you should consider a vocation in "Carnival": guessing peoples weights, barking for the Yac woman, or a pixie dust spreader on a 'Tilt-o-Whirl'.
oy vey
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abaddon
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1. Sure and I'm a Mau Mau Fighter Pilot.
2. That's all you can do is "TELL", we're more interested in the "Showing" part.
Here's some Artillery, Naval Missile, and Radar EXPERTS 'telling' the Contrary...
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJOB0vcZ4NI
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Jr8j26boIQ
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QHDa5vUb-zg
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAdTOM20j_s
Tables eh? Well then it must be TRUE
regards
Really (??), by what mechanism...Velcro??
Funny if the air was rotating with the Earth, then all winds would travel from West to East, without Exception!!
All clouds would do the same, right? Have you ever seen clouds @ lower elevations travel in all manner of contrary directions to those @ higher elevations?
Well... when we get into a conversation about "Staying Aloft" we'll be sure to contact you; Ergo, incoherent Straw Man Fallacy on Steroids.
regards
I have a current Naval Missile Instructor that say's your 'full of it'. This 'squid' implodes your fairytales IN TOTO....
www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJOB0vcZ4NI
Enjoy
from the comments of the video which sums it up rather well
"So, no name given, no proof, and he made incorrect naval and military references. "
From the Comments??
oh brother.His name is Sean McCrary. I have is email, would you like to discuss it with him?
Really, Let's go one by one..
1. Please show 2 inch RF Pencil Beams penetrating water...?
And....? Go ahead...?
Do you understand the Concept of SUPPORTING what you say, by chance?
regards
Because other people that watched can't have valid opinions?From the Comments??
So you say.
How do I know he is real?
Do you understand the concept of a QUOTE? Wasn't my words. The statement "from the comments" and the quotation marks should have been a clue.
Yes they can, but they have to have some type of Military Acumen...we're not discussing favorite colors or cake decorating.
So I know.
lol. Being retired Military...I can smell a GI from 50 'clicks' !!
Well "YOU" posted it... "YOU" are responsible for it !! duh
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Nakani
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The reason is friction(you're not a friction denialist too, are you?). Air in contact with the ground is moved and due to the viscosity of air (it is a fluid) the rest of the atmosphere moves.
I am having a bit of trouble trying to figure out if you are for real. The air is moving at the same speed as the ground. The air rotates with the earth. There is no eternal east wind because the air is moving the same speed as the ground. The atmosphere rotates with the earth.
Do you even read the crap you are pasting for "evidence"? Bullets are susceptible to the earth's rotation because they are held aloft by momentum. Airplanes are not because they use the air to fly ( 'member the air that rotates with the earth).
Well gee, you didn't say anything about "Military Acumen" when you just dismissed it with "From the Comments?? oh brother." Perhaps if that is what you're getting at then you should say so. How do you know those commenting don'e have some "type of Military Acumen"?
The guy gives the name Robert on the video. Yet you say he is Sean McCrary. With just a first name and nothing else he is essentially anonymous. How do we know you have the correct first and last name especially when it differs from the source YOU gave?
I'm retired military as well and he sounds full of it.
Further I worked with air to air, air to ground, and ground to air RADAR and found in all cases that range depended on altitude of the emitter and at farther distances low altitude coverage would be lost due to the curve of the Earth. This happened at the same distances regardless of power.
I relayed it. Still not my words. and you've done nothing so far to show their opinion is wrong.
if the world is flat, then how do stars rotate around the Southern celestial pole when all those looking South would be looking in a different direction?
How does the sun rise due East for all observer on the equinoxes when it should be off in the North East? How does the Sun light clouds from underneath during sunrises and sunsets? How does Antarctica get days with 24 hours of sun?
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Friction, eh?
SUPPORT...?Begging The Question; please Validate the Ground is moving...?
What on Earth??
Really??
1. Begging The Question (Fallacy); please Validate the Ground is moving...?
2. Then why are there different wind speeds @ different Elevations: www.intechopen.com/books/wind-farm-technical-regulations-potential-estimation-and-siting-%20assessment/methodologies-used-in-the-extrapolation-of-wind-speed-data-at-different-heights-and-its-impact-in-th ...
...???
Again, Begging The Question (Fallacy): please Validate the Earth is rotating...?
LOL, do you? So airplanes don't need momentum to stay aloft, eh?
oy vey
Never. Only flat frisbees.
You mean like this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqnKmoZEuUw
Please explain: boat/buoy @ :07 - :40, buoy @ 1:57 - 2:48.
You're telling me.
regards
Why should I bother with this when I can go to the seaside, and see that my horizon is closer when I am lower down?
I have also been to the Southern Hemisphere and seen completely different constellations to what I see at home. I have routine teleconferences with colleagues in different parts of the world and they all say that the time in their locale is the same as google says it should be.
I am only posting this because I am somewhat mystified as to why you have managed to avoid so many obvious cues.
Unless you are just trolling about this and about Evolution? Pretending to be a blowhard and an idiot is not difficult, but I am unsure why you would wish to, so I am guessing that you are not trying.
Oh goodness gracious, Ahh...
Appeal to Authority (Fallacy)--- This fallacy is committed when the person in question is not a legitimate authority on the subject.
www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/appeal-to-authority.html
Are you saying Naval Officers aren't legitimate authorities for observing Stars/Constellations @ varying latitudes ??
Perhaps a Basic Reasoning Course is in order before posting again.
regards
Wrong. It's a fallacy with ANY AUTHORITY, even experts on the subject. The fallacy is to believe that being authorities on a subject, they don't need to prove it.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
Not only your two naval officers did not prove anything as also you have thousands of other naval officers that never saw Polaris from the south.