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Merged Apollo "hoax" discussion - continuation thread

Tolls said:
Or are you implying that the moon is flat
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No. I never claimed that.

Tolls said:
... to explain why we don't see it rotate?
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Put yourself in the place of the Illuminati as they launched Copernicus.
What was their major problem? Correct, the moon was.
The first thing required by the mother of all hoaxes, heliocentrism, was not a hoax of the stellar parallax type. It was the moon hoax, aka TIDAL LOCKING.

The hoax at the very bottom of the pyramid of lies.
 
Kyoon said:
No. I never claimed that.


Put yourself in the place of the Illuminati as they launched Copernicus.
What was their major problem? Correct, the moon was.
The first thing required by the mother of all hoaxes, heliocentrism, was not a hoax of the stellar parallax type. It was the moon hoax, aka TIDAL LOCKING.

The hoax at the very bottom of the pyramid of lies.
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This is utter gibberish and explains nothing.

Explain your problem with tidal locking.
 
Jack by the hedge said:
So space travel is a hoax, designed solely to make the Illuminati look powerful.
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Yes but partially, not solely.
The ultimate reason for the space travel hoax is to produce "evidence" for their pyramid of lies.

Jack by the hedge said:
So it's a faked endeavour designed to make people who take no credit for it look good.
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No. It's a faked endeavor designed to make people who take credit for it look good.

Jack by the hedge said:
The Illuminati you imagine are hilariously dumb, don't you think?
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True, the illuminati aren't geniuses but they control the sheep now solely because of the sheep's total brainwash, not because of illuminati enlightenment.
 
Kyoon said:
Yes but partially, not solely.
The ultimate reason for the space travel hoax is to produce "evidence" for their pyramid of lies.


No. It's a faked endeavor designed to make people who take credit for it look good.


True, the illuminati aren't geniuses but they control the sheep now solely because of the sheep's total brainwash, not because of illuminati enlightenment.
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blah blah blah.

Explain your problem with tidal locking.
 
Kyoon said:
Put yourself in the place of the Illuminati as they launched Copernicus.
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Begging the question. You're asking me to interpret facts from the perspective of a group you can't prove exists and whose properties you've simply invented.

What was their major problem? Correct, the moon was.
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Several spacecraft have had that name. Tell me which one you're talking about, although none of them have any any particular problem with the Moon.

The first thing required by the mother of all hoaxes, heliocentrism, was not a hoax of the stellar parallax type. It was the moon hoax, aka TIDAL LOCKING.
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Yeah, this makes no sense. You're not telling us anything about why space travel is supposedly impossible. You're not telling us what you think tidal locking is or why it is or would be an impediment to a space program. You're just spewing more pseuod-political nonsense and mentioning astronomical words along the way.
 
Kyoon said:
No. It's a faked endeavor designed to make people who take credit for it look good.
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You are speaking directly to at least a handful of people at this forum who work in the field and who take credit for their legitimate achievements. We are challenging your accusations.

True, the illuminati aren't geniuses but they control the sheep now solely because of the sheep's total brainwash...
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This implies that you have superior knowledge of what would be possible in space engineering, such that you can knowledgeably discuss its purported limits.

I have directly challenged you to demonstrate that alleged knowledge, which I will test. Your steadfast ignorance of that challenge reveals that you cannot meet it, and you know you cannot.
 
Kyoon said:
No. I never claimed that.


Put yourself in the place of the Illuminati as they launched Copernicus.
What was their major problem? Correct, the moon was.
The first thing required by the mother of all hoaxes, heliocentrism, was not a hoax of the stellar parallax type. It was the moon hoax, aka TIDAL LOCKING.

The hoax at the very bottom of the pyramid of lies.
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Somewhere is a shark just waiting for you to strap on the water skis. The number and absurdity of unsupportable assertions you expect us to buy into to accept your version of the universe exceeds the capacity of our suspension of disbelief. A child could prove you wrong with a pencil and a blob of putty, but

..... Kyoon is impervious to facts.


Repeating assertions of factual reality to him will do nothing. His baseline ideology requires him reject or reframe any and all information that doesn't conform. It isn't based on reality. Kyoon has zero zeros to offer you. He has less then nothing, because just arguing with his batcrap is sucking away what little remaining intellect the CT subforum has managed to retain.
 
smartcooky said:
If you consider the following....

1. In 1941 very few American civilians would have known anything about what Japanese bombers looked like.

2. The war in Europe had been going for over 12 months during which time the Battle of Britain had taken place

3. American civilians would have seen plenty of German bombers in newsreel footage on TV and in Cinemas.

..... then it not unreasonable for witnesses not trained in Aircraft Recognition to mistake some Japanese bombers for German ones, e.g a Kate or a Val for a Stuka.
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The after action reports were not written by civilians (unless you want to count the report of one retired admiral), but these points also apply to military personnel.

Two other issues include the fact that in 1941 US military intelligence was incorrectly reporting that Japan was using some German aircraft, and the fact that many Americans (both in and out of the military) simply couldn't believe that the Japanese could have pulled off such an attack without help.
 
Kyoon, no fringe reset for you.

Your inane claims about the Apollo program and Mars and Jupiter and heliocentrism (well, to be accurate, the drivel from Matt "Moron" Marriott which you regurgitated) have already been debunked in the composite thread. In fact, you very helpfully rebutted some of your own claims, although you are too clueless and full of yourself to realize it.

Your claims didn't actually need debunking, of course, since you offered no evidence for any of them. The only "support" you've offered is to babble on about some boogeymen that exist only in your head. But no one cares about your delusions.

I see that you've plagiarized MattMarriott - ignoramus, crackpot, and general-purpose dolt - again, respewing some of the same twaddle he was laughed at for nine years ago on Bad Astronomy. Why is that? Why are you plagiarizing someone, especially for something that's so manifestly ridiculous, and especially when you yourself helped debunk it in the other thread?

You've already failed in your claim, and several people have explained it to you, but instead of learning anything, you try a fringe reset and just repeat yourself as if nothing had happened.

Space flight is my job, so I get to work on the things you foolishly say don't exist - and even more foolishly, refuse to learn anything about. Why is that? Do you like being ignorant? Or do you just enjoy parading your second-hand cluelessness in front of people who actually know what they're talking about, and getting laughed at because you keep saying the same stupid things over and over again?

And why do you bleat that other people are "sheep", when you are the one that mindlessly and willingly keeps swallowing and regurgitating such inane drivel?
 
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