Brexit: the referendum

This triumph of Brexit is dedicated to those Scots who voted both remain and against the independence of Scotland: Suck it with a drappie o' the real McKay!

Bye, Cameron! Hello, Boris Krustofsky!

Yay! British products already became 5% more competitive (10% more competitive in Canada!) Enjoy it! It's time to buy that yorkshire pudding tin I've always wanted. Would they accept US dollars?

And no Norwegian-deal, not even for Norway.

Greece's currency is strong. Britain's isn't. Very logical!
 
aleCcowaN said:
This triumph of Brexit is dedicated to those Scots who voted both remain and against the independence of Scotland: Suck it with a drappie o' the real McKay!

Bye, Cameron! Hello, Boris Krustofsky!

Yay! British products already became 5% more competitive (10% more competitive in Canada!) Enjoy it! It's time to buy that yorkshire pudding tin I've always wanted. Would they accept US dollars?

And no Norwegian-deal, not even for Norway.

Greece's currency is strong. Britain's isn't. Very logical!
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lionking said:
Whatever. You know exactly the point I'm making. The north can be stronger uniting with the Republic. What's the point staying with a decaying UK now turning its back to Europe?
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It sounds to me as if you have very little understanding of Northern Ireland politics.
 
Agatha said:
I am devastated. In 2012 we were so welcoming and put on those fantastic Olympics, the whole country came together. Now we've torn ourselves apart, wrecked our economy almost overnight, got a PM who has resigned (though he's staying until Oct, so he's a lame duck until then), an ineffectual opposition and the rest of the world thinks we are a bunch of isolationists. Scotland will push for a second referendum and I think that Independence would win this time. Wales voted to leave despite the huge funding they get from the EU - it's like turkeys voting for Christmas.

For the first time ever, I'm thinking that splitting the Union into four might not be such a bad thing.

ETA My sister and her husband (who is French) are talking of moving to France permanently because of this vote.
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Blah blah blah, doom doom doom! Don't be so mopey! I wanted to vote to "remain" to use that pathetic verb, but we didn't, so we have to make the most of it. Let's look to the parts of the world that are more vital than the stultifying and declining continent and look out to the Commonwealth! Let's look to India and Pakistan! To Australia and New Zealand! Canada and Jamaica! Kenya and South Africa! This crisis should not allow us to forget to think big about opportunities!

If you hate the perceived xenophobia of the Leave campaign then offer a better alternative and one that is positive! If you miss the chance to see a more vital hub for diverse international trade then you will only have yourself to blame! Do it!
 
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Question: How did this happen? I haven't been following this much, but some commentators are making the point that PM Cameron is the person who called for this referendum. It didn't have to happen now, maybe not ever. Obviously this isn't the result he expected. What was he trying to do?
 
What do we have that Pakistan, India, Canada etc want to buy from us that we aren't already selling to them?

India already have our steel industry and they are busy closing it down.
 
Information Analyst said:
Incorrect. If the 1,018,322 Scottish Leave votes had gone for Remain, it would have won on a 51.1%/48.9% split.
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I heard that expats in the EU weren't allowed to vote but commonwealth citizens in the UK were. Can any one clue me in on what that was about and how it affected the outcome?
 
Bob001 said:
Obviously this isn't the result he expected. What was he trying to do?
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Prevent loss of vote share to UKIP, and perhaps to ward off a leadership challenge within his party.

Plenty of Tories thought that (i) they would have won a majority in 2010 if more eurosceptic and (ii) having to govern in a coalition 2010-15 was Cameron's fault.
 
Bob001 said:
Question: How did this happen? I haven't been following this much, but some commentators are making the point that PM Cameron is the person who called for this referendum. It didn't have to happen now, maybe not ever. Obviously this isn't the result he expected. What was he trying to do?
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Placate the Euroskeptics within his party and avoid losing votes to UKIP. Short-term political expediency, in other words, that risked changing the lives of Brits, for the worse, for a generation. The gamble failed miserably.
 
Captain_Swoop said:
What do we have that Pakistan, India, Canada etc want to buy from us that we aren't already selling to them?

India already have our steel industry and they are busy closing it down.
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Yes, that's the question Brexiters don't want to answer. If trade with non-EU countries is so easy/lucrative, why aren't we doing more already?
 
GnaGnaMan said:
I heard that expats in the EU weren't allowed to vote but commonwealth citizens in the UK were. Can any one clue me in on what that was about and how it affected the outcome?
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I think I'm right in saying that Commonwealth citizens living legally in teh UK, plus Irish citizens living in the UK have long been able to vote in elections, so them voting in the referendum was an extension of that. British expatriates could vote as long as they had lived in the UK in the previous 15 years, which obvious exluded those who left more than 15 years previous, but it probably wouldn't have made a difference, even if they were 100% for Remain.

There was a piece on the BBC News a month or so back which showed that of those Brits who lived in other EU counrties, the majority were for Remain, while of those who merely had second homes in EU countries and were still lived mostly in the UK, the opposite was the case. This is classic haveyourcakeandeatitism.
 
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