I found the missing Jolt.

Have you ever seen a chicken cause a steel-frame high-rise to collapse? I don't think CD stands for Chicken Demolition.

Your post does not surprise me. In your reality, I'm sure this chicken is real.

http://abnf.co/NJ-Giant Chicken/IMG_0639.JPG

Well let's use twoofer logic (I'm sure you'll be excited about this).

Ready?

Maybe some chickens were let loose in WTC7, causing the workers inside to suffer salmonella poisoning and in a delusional state they agreed to plant explosives all over the building?

Sound plausible to you?

No?

Why not?
 
It was the job of anyone investigating the collapse.

It was never done. That is one teof the reasons why we need a new investigation.

Your claim was NIST never tested for it. Was that part of their mandate, yes or no?

How would this new investigating test for explosives, do tell.
 
Translation: I no longer waste my time posting facts you choose to ignore.

We post questions and assertions, you post silence!!!!

What a great way to get a new investigation!

How's that coming anyway... 15 year mark approaching... it seems you're having a hard time getting one? Terribly sad I must say!

I have some ideas: maybe you should donate some more money, how about your friends donate more money, your local red cross should donate some too!

How about Mom and Dad and some co workers? Let's get this thing rolling man, times a wasting! There are at minimum, thousands of people complicit in mass murder running around free and mocking us!
Time to step up to the plate, get that second job, research 9/11 all night long, cash in your beer cans, no time to sleep!

Let's get some JUSTICE!

Are you willing to go all the way? What exactly are you prepared to do to expose the truth? The lurkers are asking and counting on you!

Go Captain Truther!!!!!

We know you can do it!!!!!!!












Now come back when you find some evidence ok Skippy? We'll be here waiting you.
 
It was the job of anyone investigating the collapse.

It was never done. That is one of the reasons why we need a new investigation.

Investigation done.


American Society of Civil Engineers

Towers Weakened by Planes; Brought Down by Fire

Analysis by a team of 25 of the nation's leading structural and fire protection engineers suggests that the World Trade Center Towers could have remained standing indefinitely if fire had not overwhelmed the weakened structures, according to a report presented today at a hearing of the House Science Committee.

That finding is significant, said W. Gene Corley, Ph.D., team lead for the ASCE/FEMA Building Performance Study Team, because extreme events of this type, resulting in such substantial damage, are generally not considered in building design, and the fact that these structures were able to successfully withstand such damage is noteworthy.

http://911-engineers.blogspot.com/


Civil & Structural Engineers on WTC Collapse

"The aircraft moved through the building as if it were a hot and fast lava flow," Sozen says. "Consequently, much of the fireproofing insulation was ripped off the structure. Even if all of the columns and girders had survived the impact - an unlikely event - the structure would fail as the result of a buckling of the columns. The heat from an ordinary office fire would suffice to soften and weaken the unprotected steel. Evaluation of the effects of the fire on the core column structure, with the insulation removed by the impact, showed that collapse would follow whatever the number of columns cut at the time of the impact."

There are 120,000 members of ASME(American Society of Mechanical Engineers) who do not question the NIST report. There are also 370,000 members of IEEE(Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers) who do not question the NIST report. There are also 40,000 members of AIChE(American Institute of Chemical Engineers) who do not question the NIST Report. There are also 35,000 members of AIAA (American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics) who do not question the NIST report.

http://911-engineers.blogspot.com/


Video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMZ-nkYr46w


Did experts on the scene think WTC 7 was a controlled demolition?

"Several demolition teams had reached Ground Zero by 3:00 pm on 9/11, and these individuals witnessed the collapse of WTC 7 from within a few hundred feet of the event...but I never heard explosions like demo charges.

Another demolition expert who worked at Ground Zero also finds no trouble debunking the claim of explosives."Our team, working at Ground Zero, including myself, never saw indication of explosive use that would have been evident after the event," says Brent Blanchard, senior writer for www.implosionworld.com.

"You just can't clean up all the det cord, shock tube, blasting cap remnants, copper backing from explosive charges, burn marks along clean-cut edges of columns, etc., nor is there any evidence in the thousands of photos taken by the press and dozens of agencies over the following days. I just can't see how it happened that way."


Towers Weakened by Planes; Brought Down by Fire

Analysis by a team of 25 of the nation's leading structural and fire protection engineers suggests that the World Trade Center Towers could have remained standing indefinitely if fire had not overwhelmed the weakened structures, according to a report presented today at a hearing of the House Science Committee.

That finding is significant, said W. Gene Corley, Ph.D., team lead for the ASCE/FEMA Building Performance Study Team, because extreme events of this type, resulting in such substantial damage, are generally not considered in building design, and the fact that these structures were able to successfully withstand such damage is noteworthy.


ARCHITECT Magazine
The Magzine of the American Institute of Architects


All of Gage’s so-called evidence has been rebutted in peer-reviewed papers, by the Federal Emergency Management Agency, by the National Institute for Standards and Technology, by the American Society of Civil Engineers, by the 9/11 Commission Report, and, perhaps most memorably, by the 110-year-old engineering journal Popular Mechanics.


Why the World Trade Center Buildings Collapsed: A Fire Chief ’s Assessment

When the jet liners crashed into the towers based upon knowledge of the tower construction and high-rise firefighting experience the following happened: First the plane broke through the tubular steel-bearing wall. This started the building failure. Next the exploding, disintegrating, 185-ton jet plane slid across an open office floor area and severed many of the steel interior columns in the center core area. Plane parts also crashed through the plasterboard-enclosed stairways, cutting off the exits from the upper floors.

The jet collapsed the ceilings and scraped most of the spray-on fire retarding asbestos from the steel trusses. The steel truss floor supports probably started to fail quickly from the flames and the center steel supporting columns severed by plane parts heated by the flames began to buckle, sag, warp and fail.
 
Proof? Let me be more clear. Credible proof?

It's all very simple to understand.


* No demolition explosions heard as WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 collapsed, which is why you are too frighten to address my challenge to you to post those video time lines.

* No demolition explosions seen as WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 collapsed, which is why you are frighten to accept my challenge to post those video time lines..

* Seismographs did not detect demolition explosions as WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 collapsed.

* No demolition hardware found within the rubble of the WTC buildings

* Experts have spoken and concluded: No demolition explosives responsible for the collapse of WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7.

To sum it up, you have no case and you know it.
 
Translation: I no longer waste my time posting facts you choose to ignore.


Translation: You are well aware there are no video time lines depicting demolition explosions as WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7 collapsed, which explains why you have avoided accepting my challenge.
 
Have you ever seen a chicken cause a steel-frame high-rise to collapse?


No, but American 11 and United 175 slammed into the WTC Towers, which started fires that resulted in their collapse and did so without a hint of secondary explosions that would have indicated the presence of demolition explosives.

That explains why are you unable to accept my challenge.
 
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Which ones tested for explosives?

FBI, NYPD, NYFD.ATF. NSA. All test for explosives if visual evidence of high explosives are found, no visual evidence no high explosives no tests nessisary. You have to have something to test before a test can be done, since there were no explosives on 9/11/2001 there was no reason to test for them. Your argument was a strawman from the start, and the fires of your own lack of reasoned logic have completely consumed him.
 
FBI, NYPD, NYFD.ATF. NSA. All test for explosives if visual evidence of high explosives are found, no visual evidence no high explosives no tests nessisary. You have to have something to test before a test can be done, since there were no explosives on 9/11/2001 there was no reason to test for them. Your argument was a strawman from the start, and the fires of your own lack of reasoned logic have completely consumed him.
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Painfully easy. They did test for them.
With their eyes. Didn't find any.
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Your denial of undeniable evidence is clear for everyone to see.
You don't understand. FF is the classic Management type. A "credible expert" is credible only if he agrees with the firmly entrenched belief of the manager. Everybody else is perpetrating fraud.

ETA: Another possibility exists, in that FF is actually a member of the non-shape-shifting Scaly Reptilian Overlords, and not having access to "the list", is actually trying to "out" all of the actual credible experts by getting their real names, credentials, and addresses in order to selectively target them with artificial Therm*te-filled meteorites, thus removing opposition to the "Real Story", and discrediting the Shape-Shifting Scaly Reptilian majority, effecting a coup.
 
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This is wrong. NIST has admitted that they did not test for explosives.


NIST also says building 7 collapsed due to fire.

Do you believe one claim but not the other? Are you an expert in both areas, to be able to make such a judgment?
 
NIST also says building 7 collapsed due to fire.

Do you believe one claim but not the other? Are you an expert in both areas, to be able to make such a judgment?

One doesn't need to be an expert in infant bowel movements to tell that a baby's diaper smells and it is time to change them into a new one. Some things are obvious.

The NIST WTC reports tend to fit the baby's diaper smells scenario and everybody knows it is time for a new investigation, regardless of the weird and disingenuous protestations of a few who for some reason don't mind smelling it.
 
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