Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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Fudbucker said:
U.S. involvement was by no means a sure thing
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You're still thinking US Centric. Do you think that the result would have been any different in Libya had the US not been involved? Consider that the UK and France had already decided that they were going ahead with airstrikes before the March 14th meeting, they had been in touch with Arab leaders and gained their support for the action, and even had several ready to join. They also had the Canadians on board and just needed the UN's go ahead.

Do you think that the US refusing to back up their European Allies would have been damaging to NATO?

Considering these two things, that Libya was going to attacked anyways, and that the Europeans were talking damage to their alliances if the US didn't get involved, why exactly do you think that Clinton called it wrong? Or do you think that damaging relations with two of the most powerful European nations and ending up with the same result in Libya would have been somehow a better result for the US?
 
applecorped said:
Bernie never stood a chance.
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Considering that before the AP polling the remaining Supers Hillary needed just 26 Delegates out of the 800+ today, you're right, he didn't, and he hasn't for months. Bernie was beaten back in April, he just refused to accept that the writing was on the wall and instead went into delusional mode, dragging his supporters with him.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Considering that before the AP polling the remaining Supers Hillary needed just 26 Delegates out of the 800+ today, you're right, he didn't, and he hasn't for months. Bernie was beaten back in April, he just refused to accept that the writing was on the wall and instead went into delusional mode, dragging his supporters with him.
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AP and the Clinton Administration "counted" the supers, you mean right?

Shhhh, it is a "secret."

Lolz, HDS!
 
applecorped said:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...olluding-ap-announce-delegate-win-california/

BOOM! Hillary Clinton CAUGHT COLLUDING With AP to Announce Delegate Win Before California!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/author/jim-hoft/

"On Monday night – the day before California’s primary election – the Associated Press announced Hillary Clinton had finally secured enough delegates to win the Democratic Party nomination.
The Associated Press reported Hillary gained enough extra super-delegates to give her the 2383 delegates to secure the nomination.
But now there is evidence that this announcement the night before the nation’s largest primary was planned days in advance.
Via Mike Cernovich:
The graphic titled “Secret Win Version 2” was created days ago on June 4, 2016."


Bernie never stood a chance.
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Boom? :rolleyes:

You're slow on the draw, it was already posted including a screenshot. It's ludicrous.

First, no big deal for a news source to contact a subject and inform them a story is about to be published.

Second, either the delegates let their votes be known or they didn't. So who cares?

Third, and more important, it was not to Clinton's benefit to announce the win via superdelegates when she was inevitably about to win with pledged delegates the very next day. It was anticlimactic and no doubt an irritant to Sanders supporters.

This story is bogus, typical Internet rumor.
 
16.5 said:
Lolz, 3 of the 5 stages of grief right out there as fancy as you please!

:D
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Fudbucker is showing denial, possibly anger. Which is the third one?

Eta: it would be pretty refreshing if the various HDS sufferers or Bernie supporters were able to show acceptance, but I have a feeling that won't even happen after Clinton is sworn in as PotUS.
 
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Well with 3% reporting in NJ has HC at 60%, it'll change a bit but not by much. Without the AP's poll she only needed 26 Delegates. It's likely that NJ will give her at least 69 Delegates. Can we call it all over now?
 
Straight from the frogmarching Hillary news report, Fox news:
BREAKING NEWS: CLINTON BECOMES 1ST WOMAN TO WIN NOMINATION FOR PRESIDENT
Wins enough NJ delegates to clinch nomination.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Well with 3% reporting in NJ has HC at 60%, it'll change a bit but not by much. Without the AP's poll she only needed 26 Delegates. It's likely that NJ will give her at least 69 Delegates. Can we call it all over now?
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Once the night is over, Sanders will have zero chance left to get to a majority of pledged delegates.

He's going on to WA DC under his new mission, "every vote should count." I see it as a way to continue in the theme of, "I was robbed by the rigged establishment." I expect him to keep giving speeches.
 
They are calling 50 confirmed delegates and a win in NJ for Clinton. Based on Wiki's numbers that gives her 2388 without the AP Supers and with more to come today.

I have seen a number of Bernie supporters still claiming that she can't be the presumption nominee unless she has 2383 pledged delegates. Seems to be a huge amount of denial going on in that camp.
 
Clinton already has 50 delegates from NJ, and the night is young. Even the HDS sufferers and Bernie supporters can't deny the clinch now.
 
Looks like shes going to pick up 11 in South Dakota and 18 in New Mexico as well with 53% at the 43% and 22% reporting stages respectively.

looking at 75 from New Jersey, so that's 104 to Bernie's 76.

ETA: Total would be at 2,446 with these predictions.
 
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Bernie is still showing that when it comes to Open Caucuses he's the winner, and will comfortably take North Dakota 64% to 26% giving him 12 of the delegates and Clinton just 6, still that will make the totals 110 to 88 in Clinton's favour.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Looks like shes going to pick up 11 in South Dakota and 18 in New Mexico as well with 53% at the 43% and 22% reporting stages respectively.

looking at 75 from New Jersey, so that's 104 to Bernie's 76.

ETA: Total would be at 2,446 with these predictions.
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Don't you know how to write Bernie NewsTM headlines?


Sanders picks up 76 more delegates. Closing In on Clinton.
 
 
Clinton plays the women's card in the opening of her acceptance speech. Well done, too.

Interesting that the only state so far Sanders is winning is the last caucus state. New Mexico and S Dakota are on the way to voting Clinton.

Montana's results are barely in yet.

I think this suggests Clinton will do fine in CA but with all Sanders' efforts in the heavily populated Bay Area it's hard to stay.
 
Compared to Trump's piddly crowd tonight in his attempt to even the score, the Clinton venue is huge and the crowds very loud. I think Trump timed his speech poorly.
 
PhantomWolf said:
They are calling 50 confirmed delegates and a win in NJ for Clinton. Based on Wiki's numbers that gives her 2388 without the AP Supers and with more to come today.

I have seen a number of Bernie supporters still claiming that she can't be the presumption nominee unless she has 2383 pledged delegates. Seems to be a huge amount of denial going on in that camp.
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I was watching MSNBC last night and they had somebody with the Sanders campaign on the phone. It was pointed out that Bernie himself acknowledged that Obama was the presumptive nominee the same time the media did (when he got 2383 delegates including supers). The Bernie guy had absolutely no answer and just mumbled something about political revolution. It was embarrassing.
 
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16.5 said:
What partisan Congressional Committee?

The State Department IG specifically said that they were halting the intelligence component of their investigation in deference to the FBI.
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Say, you missed this post? Huh, odd.

Loss Leader said:
And NBC has an obituary ready if Joe Biden dies. Your point?
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What a terrible comparison.

Nbc send out an advance copy to uncle joe for his editorial comments then so he could throw together an ad, did they?

:rolleyes:
 
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