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[DGM]

NFPA 921 – 23.1.4 Definition of an Explosion

“Although an explosion is almost always accompanied by the production of a loud noise, the noise itself is not an essential element in the definition of an explosion. The generation and violent escape of gases are the primary criteria for an explosion.”

So you believe a high order explosive does not have to make a loud noise and present this as support the NFPA supports this? Unbelievable........

 

[MicahJava]

So you believe a high order explosive does not have to make a loud noise and present this as support the NFPA supports this?

The extent to which an explosive charge's noise can be covered up while still performing it's job is something unknown. Because of the information on extremely high temperatures during and long after the Tower's demise, this has lead to postulation that sophisticated devices were used which were capable of producing intense heat to soften the steel before the final blast is delivered. Commercial demolitions are done to be as economical as possible. Basically, at this point it seems like something that can not be known for certain.

 

[TJM]

NFPA 921 – 23.1.4 Definition of an Explosion

“Although an explosion is almost always accompanied by the production of a loud noise, the noise itself is not an essential element in the definition of an explosion. The generation and violent escape of gases are the primary criteria for an explosion.”

Pretty sure an explosion that could embed steel and debris into adjacent buildings is going to to be pretty *********** loud.

Who said there weren't shrapnel injuries?

Being hit by debris is not the same as a blast injury.

edit: Also, there is the Ron DiFrancesco case.

And he was "blown across the street"? This guy, did he ever hang out with Barry Jennings?

 

[DGM]

The extent to which an explosive charge's noise can be covered up while still performing it's job is something unknown.

Only to you. Explosives are a science. Steven Jones invented "nano-thermite" because he knew he couldn't explain away the lack of noise.

Don't you wonder why people like Tony avoid the issue like the plague?

 

[MicahJava]

Pretty sure an explosion that could embed steel and debris into adjacent buildings is going to to be pretty *********** loud.

It's still considered to be a characteristic of explosives.

Being hit by debris is not the same as a blast injury.

Having debris imbed itself deep inside your body is not the same as being hit by debris.

edit: falling debris

And he was "blown across the street"? This guy, did he ever hang out with Barry Jennings?

DiFrancesco experienced a fireball explosion at ground level, and also appeared to be hit by a projectile which originated at ground level.

 

[MicahJava]

Only to you. Explosives are a science.

Is there any information detailing scientific experiments on how "quiet" an explosive charge can possibly be?

 

[DGM]

Is there any information detailing scientific experiments on how "quiet" an explosive charge can possibly be?

Are you kidding? Do you think commercial blasters guess?

 

[MicahJava]

Are you kidding? Do you think commercial blasters guess?

Commercial demolitions are designed to be cheap. It's cheaper to just have a guy deal with the noise complains if there are that many civilians close by.

 

[TJM]

It's still considered to be a characteristic of explosives.

The sound of which, were absent. As I said.

Having debris imbed itself deep inside your body is not the same as being hit by debris.

Umm... I'm beginning to understand your confusion. Read the above quote back to yourself and perhaps give an edit or two.

DiFrancesco experienced a fireball explosion at ground level, and also appeared to be hit by a projectile which originated at ground level.

If you've ever experienced an explosion close by, as I and others here have, you'll be aware that you don't see them coming.

 

[NoahFence]

Your shields are impressive. I'll give you that.

 

[DGM]

Commercial demolitions are designed to be cheap. It's cheaper to just have a guy deal with the noise complains if there are that many civilians close by.

You have no idea what you're talking about. Besides noise the blast wave also breaks things.

Steel cutting charges produce a blast wave around 25 to 30,000 feet per second. What happens when air (yes air) moves that fast?

Any slower and you won't cut steel. Commercial blasters spend months preparing to keep the inevitable noise down.

 

[MicahJava]

The sound of which, were absent. As I said.

The collapses were not silent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8o-v3stbbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAXmpgADfU&t=14m48s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echZ0EE_JoI

Umm... I'm beginning to understand your confusion. Read the above quote back to yourself and perhaps give an edit or two.

Being hit from falling debris is not the same as debris embedding itself inside of you.

If you've ever experienced an explosion close by, as I and others here have, you'll be aware that you don't see them coming.

1. DiFrancesco is recounting the event in slow motion and may have perceived this traumatic event as such, which would be common of people in similar situations.

2. The fireball and the projectile that fractured his skull are two different things.

 

[MicahJava]

You have no idea what you're talking about. Besides noise the blast wave also breaks things.

Steel cutting charges produce a blast wave around 25 to 30,000 feet per second. What happens when air (yes air) moves that fast?

Any slower and you won't cut steel. Commercial blasters spend months preparing to keep the inevitable noise down.

The WTC steel does not show "rips" akin to commercial charges blowing through solid steel, so if it was done with explosives it had to be done in a different way.

 

[TJM]

The collapses were not silent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8o-v3stbbE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XAXmpgADfU&t=14m48s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=echZ0EE_JoI

Videos that are remarkable for their lack of explosions.

Being hit from falling debris is not the same as debris embedding itself inside of you.

That's wonderful! I can tell all the construction workers at my accounts to skip the hard hat, falling **** won't embed in their skulls!

1. DiFrancesco is recounting the event in slow motion and may have perceived this traumatic event as such, which would be common of people in similar situations.

And maybe embellishing the truth just a teensy.

2. The fireball and the projectile that fractured his skull are two different things.

Neither of which were the result of explosives.

 

[beachnut]

The videos show that only a handful of steel pieces were ejected far enough to hit Seven.

Handful? lol, what giant has hands that big? Someone has big hands.

... I can do to make them worry that there is actually a possibility, however slight, that they might be held to account.

Who is going to be held to account for spreading the fantasy of CD?

 

[MicahJava]

Handful? lol, what giant has hands that big? Someone has big hands.

Who is going to be held to account for spreading the fantasy of CD?

Do you own a cat?

 

[beachnut]

Do you own a cat?

Wow, more evidence for CD. There is no logic in what is used for 9/11 truth fantasy of CD, now it is cats.

You can't own a cat... To A Dog, You’re Family. To A Cat, You’re Staff

Better luck with Bigfoot which does not mock the murder of thousands with evidence free claims of CD.

 

[Axxman300]

I might try opening a thread about OKC when I get a better understanding of the case. I hope you'll be there.

Oh please do.

It's a better CT than 9-11 because it's better laid out, and ties Al Qaeda to OKC, and the WTC, and Iraq justifying the invasion.

The folks behind it have planted all the right easter eggs to lead the gullible around by the nose.

 

[Axxman300]

Commercial demolitions are designed to be cheap. It's cheaper to just have a guy deal with the noise complains if there are that many civilians close by.

Not to be confused with "Private" or "Exclusive" explosives, which are silent and smell like strawberries.

Here's the problem, there are explosive compounds that are proprietary to the military. You find them in warheads, and especially nuclear warheads.

They are all LOUD.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

I thought "ejected" was the neutral term. Whatever floats your boat. Doesn't change that the NFPA 921 describes heavy debris ejected hundreds of feet as evidence for explosives.

And that very statement disqualified you from commenting further.