I found the missing Jolt.

Yes, I'm obviously not a detail guy.

I spent three semesters suffering through Intermediate Algebra, and will eventually suffer through a fourth until I pass it. I respect mathematics, and have learned to almost enjoy working calculations. I really look forward to Calculus and suffering through that.

This doesn't make me an idiot, it just means I don't get to design bridges, rocket engines, or quantum computers. I grew up next to Fort Ord, I know the difference between 60mm, 81mm, 105 rounds, and Bangalore Torpedoes just by their sound. The same is true with breaching charges. I have been way too close to EOD crews setting off unexploded ordinance, and there is no mistaking the sound and effects of explosives...period.

I have also worked in construction and I know what the sound of a large concrete block sounds like when it falls from a height of ten to fifteen feet - it's loud, and sounds like an explosion.

My proximity to Fort Ord has put me into contact with guys who sneak into places and blow things up for a living. These guys never told me anything classified, but often they would point me in the direction of a book or magazine article I "might find interesting". Since 9-11, I have run the WTC scenario through from beginning to end hundreds of times, and there is no practical way to rig the Twin Towers nor WTC 7 without detection. More importantly - why would you want to? Even if it was some soooper seeecret blackopz team the simplest way to achieve the results at the WTC would be to fly a pair of 767s into each tower.

See, this is your most embarrassing lie, Tony, that the impacts of the plane and fires weren't enough to bring the towers down. They obviously were. Al Qaeda knew this, they did the math (real math), and the only thing that they would change about the attack would be to hit each tower much lower to bring them down much faster.
 
Yes, I'm obviously not a detail guy.

I spent three semesters suffering through Intermediate Algebra, and will eventually suffer through a fourth until I pass it. I respect mathematics, and have learned to almost enjoy working calculations. I really look forward to Calculus and suffering through that.

This doesn't make me an idiot, it just means I don't get to design bridges, rocket engines, or quantum computers. I grew up next to Fort Ord, I know the difference between 60mm, 81mm, 105 rounds, and Bangalore Torpedoes just by their sound. The same is true with breaching charges. I have been way too close to EOD crews setting off unexploded ordinance, and there is no mistaking the sound and effects of explosives...period.

I have also worked in construction and I know what the sound of a large concrete block sounds like when it falls from a height of ten to fifteen feet - it's loud, and sounds like an explosion.

My proximity to Fort Ord has put me into contact with guys who sneak into places and blow things up for a living. These guys never told me anything classified, but often they would point me in the direction of a book or magazine article I "might find interesting". Since 9-11, I have run the WTC scenario through from beginning to end hundreds of times, and there is no practical way to rig the Twin Towers nor WTC 7 without detection. More importantly - why would you want to? Even if it was some soooper seeecret blackopz team the simplest way to achieve the results at the WTC would be to fly a pair of 767s into each tower.

See, this is your most embarrassing lie, Tony, that the impacts of the plane and fires weren't enough to bring the towers down. They obviously were. Al Qaeda knew this, they did the math (real math), and the only thing that they would change about the attack would be to hit each tower much lower to bring them down much faster.

How do you know "Al Qaeda did the math"? That is silly nonsense you have no basis for.

Apparently, you are just listening to others and have a mental notion that aircraft impacts and fires could have taken the buildings down. The reality is that you have no idea.
 
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... Apparently, you are just listening to others and have a mental notion that aircraft impacts and fires could have taken the buildings down. The reality is that you have no idea.
No, the aircraft impacts and office fires are reality of why the WTC towers collapsed, where as... lol - CD? Really

Unlike the delusional silent explosives CD claims made by 9/11 truth based on zero evidence.
14 years.
 
No, the aircraft impacts and office fires are reality of why the WTC towers collapsed, where as... lol - CD? Really

Unlike the delusional silent explosives CD claims made by 9/11 truth based on zero evidence.
14 years.

It is obvious where you are talking from when you indulge yourself in saying these things without a basis and it isn't your mouth.

Ask NIST to redo their analysis of WTC 7, but this time to include all of the pertinent structural features they left out. Maybe with a legitimate analysis we can talk.
 
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It is obvious where you are talking from when you indulge yourself in saying these things without a basis and it isn't your mouth.

Ask NIST to redo their analysis of WTC 7, but this time to include all of the pertinent structural features they left out. Maybe with a legitimate analysis we can talk.

You have no Idea how a CD, could have been accomplished, and leave no trace evidence, and by his experiments neither does Johnathan Cole,
Do you even have a clue as to the complexity of the fires or the environment after the planes impact?
 
Sally Regenhard wrote about it here http://maxstandridge.net/911girders2.htm

and this book talks about it America's Mayor: The Hidden History of Rudy Giuliani's New York see page 164
Thanks, I remember that now. No mention of concerns about explosives, just basic building safety in fires.

I wonder why you can't get any support from the fire science field. Could it be they understand fire better than you?
 
You have no Idea how a CD, could have been accomplished, and leave no trace evidence, and by his experiments neither does Johnathan Cole,
Do you even have a clue as to the complexity of the fires or the environment after the planes impact?

Sure I do. I have been looking at this for ten years now.
 
Then what explosive where placed, and how was it done, I remind you that the perps would have had to anticipate, even natural Aluminum oxidation reactions.

The core columns were likely taken out at their splices and the corners of the exterior were cut at their corners in the towers. The North Tower collapse initiated at the 98th floor. There are core column splices there and the horizontal propagation was extremely rapid and even. It happened in less than a second from diagonal corner to corner. That is nearly 300 feet.

WTC 7 had about eight stories of its core removed between floors 14 and 22.

The dynamics of the collapses (continuous acceleration in WTC 1 and free fall acceleration in WTC 7) are first hand evidence of controlled demolition. It would be extraordinary and extremely unreasonable to deny that and if you want to I will have to consider that in dealing with you.

As far as what type of explosive or demolition device was used I can't say for sure, although there was likely both explosive use and incendiary use. The corner blowouts in the North Tower video had an explosive nature and all of the molten metal pouring out of the South Tower right before collapse and in the rubble of the three collapsed buildings points to some use of incendiaries.
 
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It is obvious where you are talking from when you indulge yourself in saying these things without a basis and it isn't your mouth.

Ask NIST to redo their analysis of WTC 7, but this time to include all of the pertinent structural features they left out. Maybe with a legitimate analysis we can talk.
(wow, you have a fixation on... wow)

What did they leave out, and why does it make a difference? Oops, it does not make a difference. You can't explain it due to lack of engineering skill in structures. Your failed paper, your claims are not based on sound engineering, they are based on your ignorance of structures, and 10 years of failure for what fire did 14 years ago.

There goes your typical attack on me because you have no evidence for your silent explosives... and your silly plot where the planes were a ruse to cover your fantasy of CD. Explain the ruse of crashing the planes again. lol... got some evidence for the ruse? No, you have some far fetch delusional fantasy of the aircraft ruse, and who were the 19 terrorists? A ruse? Explain how this was used to back in your fantasy CD.

No proof for CD, explosives, thermite and more... but solid proof of paranoid fantasy...
The aircraft impacts were used as causal ruses to blame outsiders. ...
Bingo.
 
Thanks, I remember that now. No mention of concerns about explosives, just basic building safety in fires.

I wonder why you can't get any support from the fire science field. Could it be they understand fire better than you?

You asked for a reference to family members asking Giuliani's office why the steel wasn't being saved. You seemed skeptical and I gave it to you.

Don't change the subject.

There aren't many reasons to pick from that would explain why, in the face of pressure not to, that Giuliani's office would continue recycling the steel.
 
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You asked for a reference to family members asking Giuliani's office why the steel wasn't being saved. You seemed skeptical and I gave it to you.

Don't change the subject.

There aren't many reasons to pick from that would explain why, in the face of pressure not to, that Giuliani's office would continue recycling the steel.
Maybe the need to get the city back to normal as quickly as possible? Too boring for you?
 
(wow, you have a fixation on... wow)

What did they leave out, and why does it make a difference? Oops, it does not make a difference. You can't explain it due to lack of engineering skill in structures. Your failed paper, your claims are not based on sound engineering, they are based on your ignorance of structures, and 10 years of failure for what fire did 14 years ago.

There goes your typical attack on me because you have no evidence for your silent explosives... and your silly plot where the planes were a ruse to cover your fantasy of CD. Explain the ruse of crashing the planes again. lol... got some evidence for the ruse? No, you have some far fetch delusional fantasy of the aircraft ruse, and who were the 19 terrorists? A ruse? Explain how this was used to back in your fantasy CD.

No proof for CD, explosives, thermite and more... but solid proof of paranoid fantasy...

Bingo.

You haven't been doing your homework. Bad Beachnut.

NIST left a large number of pertinent structural features out of the WTC 7 analysis and had to add artificial loads to the towers to get the exterior walls to fail and then simply stopped their analysis. Including the features in WTC 7 and not using the artificial load in the tower analysis changes would not allow a collapse. They would need to investigate further for the actual cause.
 
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How do you know "Al Qaeda did the math"? That is silly nonsense you have no basis for.

Apparently, you are just listening to others and have a mental notion that aircraft impacts and fires could have taken the buildings down. The reality is that you have no idea.

Actually I do know what I'm talking about in this case.

1. Al Qaeda (unlike you and the rest of Troofer World) had extensive knowledge of explosives, including IEDs, and explosive vests, car bombs, truck bombs, and Semtex. They had almost a decade of experience with these devices.

They even used on in 1993 at the World Trade Center.

2. Ramzi Yousef was an electrical engineer, KSM has a BA in mechanical engineering, Mohamed Atta studied engineering. They chose the Twin Towers because of their design. Out of all the buildings in Manhattan they were viewed at the easiest to bring down.

The White House and US Capitol buildings are unreinforced structures, easily destroyed by UA93 had it reached D.C.. The Pentagon was reinforced, built originally as a warehouse, and yet the fire and impact collapsed the impact zone there too.

Al Qaeda had done ground reconnaissance on all of these targets prior to 9-11.
 
You haven't been doing your homework. Bad Beachnut.

NIST left a large number of pertinent structural features out of the WTC 7 analysis.
Now you expose ignorance of engineering models.

I did my homework and my engineering work, and as engineers we leave out stuff in models which makes no difference. You complete ignorance of engineering models is showing, and your failed work does not support or prove the collapses of 9/11 were CD.

The big clue you are off in fantasy land is this paranoia of an inside job with no logic, no evidence. Like your CD claims, the idiotic ruse of using planes. Who flew the planes in your ruse fantasy to support the CD fantasy, part of the silly inside job plot you can't explain
The aircraft impacts were used as causal ruses to blame outsiders. ...
Wow, the fantasy of CD, with the bigger fantasy of aircraft ruse.
 
Actually I do know what I'm talking about in this case.

1. Al Qaeda (unlike you and the rest of Troofer World) had extensive knowledge of explosives, including IEDs, and explosive vests, car bombs, truck bombs, and Semtex. They had almost a decade of experience with these devices.

They even used on in 1993 at the World Trade Center.

2. Ramzi Yousef was an electrical engineer, KSM has a BA in mechanical engineering, Mohamed Atta studied engineering. They chose the Twin Towers because of their design. Out of all the buildings in Manhattan they were viewed at the easiest to bring down.

The White House and US Capitol buildings are unreinforced structures, easily destroyed by UA93 had it reached D.C.. The Pentagon was reinforced, built originally as a warehouse, and yet the fire and impact collapsed the impact zone there too.

Al Qaeda had done ground reconnaissance on all of these targets prior to 9-11.

Did you ever see any calculations from these alleged masterminds?
 

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