If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Part II

[beachnut]

1310 FF posts boil down to failure for 9/11 truth claims

You are trying so hard to discredit me, and you are failing hard.

I choose not to do your math. It's a choice I make because your points are not relevant. You do NOT need to do any of your busy work in order to have a basic understanding of physics. That's a fact, and it obviously p***es you off.

You are spending so much time and effort trying to regain the credibility that you, yourself, have destroyed. Math won't help you regain the credibility. Admitting the truth is the only thing you can do. Since you won't do that, all you have left is to put lots of symbols and equations in your posts so that the weak-minded skeptics will think you have credibility.

It's not working. Your scam is failing. It's as simple as that.

So you failed to do the math.

Where have I said that? Please copy and paste the exact text. Otherwise, you are misquoting me. Of course, I expect nothing less from a skeptic.

This is your evidence to support Cole's folly?

I have never said I am an expert. I have said that you should listen to experts, and not the frauds on this site.

I don't need credibility. Remember, what I think does not matter.

There are no experts in 9/11 truth, you failed to show anyone here is a fraud; you never will, except for the fringe few spewing BS from 9/11 truth, and idiotic experiments like Cole's.

I see what is there. You ignore it. I make up nothing.

Nothing, is the evidence you use to support Cole's failed models.

Please post a link to the exact text that supports your claim. Thanks.

You forgot what you said?

I guess I need to try posting on Backpage, too, and then lower the price.

Again, super support for a fantasy, but reality requires something that makes sense.

So many words, yet there has still not been one experiment that proves Cole is wrong.

Why is that? There are so many "experts" here. It should be easy, right?

WTC 1 and 2 on 9/11 prove Cole experiments are idiotic, lies, fantasy. And you support Cole with off topic trolling talk with no evidence.

I have temporarily changed my avatar. No, not because I'm trolling, but because you made me think of it.

Irony.

Wait for it...

Wait for your support of Cole's experiment? You have nothing to offer... proved by 1310 of your posts


Cole's experiments are wrong because a floor in Cole's dumbed down models fails to fail with 12 other floors of mass. Simple to debunk the overwhelming ignorance Cole used to build his failed models. Cole's work is proved wrong by reality, the collapse of WTC 1 and 2.

You failed to offer anything to support Cole's failed work. Posts have proved a total lack of knowledge of physics, and an inability to do a simple math calculation. Is this why you fail to see Cole's experiments are nonsense. 14 years, 9/11 truth followers could have earned a PhD in physics, or engineering, but decided to believe the lies and idiotic claims from Cole and other failed 9/11 truth liars and fools.

Cole's experiments defense boils down to nonsense, and denial; in over

 

[DGM]

You claim we are trying to "discredit" you,

Please post a link to the exact text that supports your claim. Thanks.

You are trying so hard to discredit me, and you are failing hard.

Your words.........

 

[FalseFlag]

Your words.........

........taken completely out of context.

What else is new?

 

[Mentalpygmy]

So many words, yet there has still not been one experiment that proves Cole is wrong.

Why is that? There are so many "experts" here. It should be easy, right?

You won't even postulate a hypothecial "expriment" which will you will accept as "proof". If you can't even state the required information which would falsify your position - then you've fallen at the first step.

However an "experiment" is not needed to prove Cole wrong, as there is one relevant law as has already been stated many times the square-cube law. Do you really need an experiment to prove this law? Are you denying it's validity?

Thus any modelling that Cole has tried to do, would need to incorporate detailed scaling. It does not, therefore the experiment doesn't replicate the twin towers. if you are only merely "replicating observed movement" - what benefit is Cole's "experiment" in the first place?

 

[Mentalpygmy]

I have never said I am an expert. I have said that you should listen to experts, and not the frauds on this site.

I don't need credibility. Remember, what I think does not matter.

I've asked this previously - How does one identify an expert and identify a fraud?

 

[Spanx]

What else is new?

Your avatar is by the looks of things.

Very becoming

 

[rwguinn]

I've figured it out. FF is a Manager.
Expert; uses words and pretty pictures to tell me what I want to hear
Fraud: uses mathematics and graphs to show me what I need to hear

 

[tfk]

You are trying so hard to discredit me, and you are failing hard.

You need no assistance from me, or anyone else, in discrediting yourself.
You do that every time you post.

I choose not to do your math. It's a choice I make because … [blah, blah, blah].

Of course you did. You CHOOSE to look clueless! Doesn’t everyone?!
LMAO.

Exactly as you “could answer” all those pesky questions that everyone keeps asking you, each time you make some brain-dead assertion, and get caught with your pants around your ankles.

You chose to leave everyone laughing at your ignorance.
Because you enjoy everyone making fun of your cluelessness.

A compelling desire to exhibit “the public appearance of utter, hopeless incompetence …”.
While simultaneously “… strutting around claiming intellectual superiority”.

That’s such an effective strategy.!
And a well-known psychological phenomenon.

We ALL wish that we could get everyone to think that we are clueless.
It’s every person’s most fervent desire. Right up there with “Dating the Prom Queen” in every little boy’s fantasies.

You do NOT need to do any of your busy work in order to have a basic understanding of physics.

Yup, ya got me.
All those annoying physicists & engineers & their constant “showing off” with math, & equations and crap.

Filling up blackboards & napkins & paper after paper, with “m”s & “c²”s & “equal signs” and irrelevant nonsense.

We do that because it gets the babes so totally hot that they DEMAND that we have sex with them.
And it makes the jocks so jealous that they give us more wedgies, which we also secretly enjoy.!

Because, as you’ve pointed out, “public humiliation” is such a core part of human nature.

Well, I’ve gotta tell ya, FF.
You have hit The Mother Lode of like-minded, “enjoys the public humiliation of appearing to be morons” in Da Twoof Movement.
They ARE your peeps!
No wonder you feel right at home.

It’s the pride being recognized by everyone as Idiot-Savants.
Without having to drag around that pesky, effort-demanding “savant” part.

 

[tfk]

A simple, “I made the whole thing up” will do nicely.

I see what is there. You ignore it. I make up nothing.

Splendid. Wonderful.

Now you can show us all the explosions which you "see that are there."

We all await in great anticipation...

... or are you just stocking up on more, ever-so-desirable, "public humiliation"??
__

LoL, I'm just messing with ya, FF.
There's no anticipation.
There's no expectation.
Nobody here expects you to follow thru on any of you claims.

If it's any consolation, tho, the "public humiliation" part is 100% genuine.!

 

[tfk]

I have never said I am an expert.

Understatement of the month.

I have said that you should listen to experts, and not ... frauds ...

Excellent advice.

And yet, you've constantly championed a Sewer System Designer (Jonathan Cole) as your "expert" on "collapse dynamics of tall buildings".

And yet, you've championed an utterly clueless architect (Richard Gage), whose Truther Conversion was supplied by an equally clueless theologian (David Ray Griffin), as your "expert" in "disproportionate failure in tall structures".

Such self-contradiction.

I don't need credibility.

Quite the fortunate situation, seeing as you have none.

But I'm just messing with ya, FF.

In discussions & debates, everyone needs credibility. It's the thing that matters most.

And you still have none.

Remember, what I think does not matter.

Three correct statements (bolded) in one post. I do believe that this is a "personal best" for you.

Congrats.!

 

[Porkpie Hat]

I have never said I am an expert. I have said that you should listen to experts, and not the frauds on this site.

I don't need credibility. Remember, what I think does not matter.

Now that's some funny ****!

I've repeatedly asked you to communicate with experts that aren't in your little bubble of ignorance and you have failed to do so.

The truth is you couldn't give a tinkers damn about truth and what you really want is people to only listen to your extremely biased 911 "truth" sources.

 

[FalseFlag]

if you are only merely "replicating observed movement" - what benefit is Cole's "experiment" in the first place?

Which experiment most accurately replicated the observed motion?

 

[FalseFlag]

I've asked this previously - How does one identify an expert and identify a fraud?

Let's see how you answer my question above. I will get back to you.

 

[FalseFlag]

Your avatar is by the looks of things.

Very becoming

Thanks. I had no idea there were so many selfies of me on the internet. What's even more surprising is how good they turned out.

 

[FalseFlag]

I've figured it out. FF is a Manager.
Expert; uses words and pretty pictures to tell me what I want to hear
Fraud: uses mathematics and graphs to show me what I need to hear

I would add one more.

Credible source: someone who performs experiments, explains how they were done, and then arrives at the correct conclusions.

 

[FalseFlag]

And yet, you've constantly championed a Sewer System Designer (Jonathan Cole) as your "expert" on "collapse dynamics of tall buildings".

Please post a link to the exact text where I have claimed Cole is an expert on "collapse dynamics of tall buildings".

And yet, you've championed an utterly clueless architect (Richard Gage), whose Truther Conversion was supplied by an equally clueless theologian (David Ray Griffin), as your "expert" in "disproportionate failure in tall structures".

I don't "champion" anyone. I agree with ideas based on facts. There is quite a difference, and you don't need to be an expert to see that.

 

[FalseFlag]

The truth is you couldn't give a tinkers damn about truth and what you really want is people to only listen to your extremely biased 911 "truth" sources.

Everyone's opinion is welcome, even though yours is absolutely wrong.

 

[Redwood]

Originally Posted by FalseFlag
I have never said I am an expert.

Understatement of the month.

He and other Truthers could at least try to become informed laymen, but even that is beyond them. They could start by reading the engineering reports, which I have shown that they haven't done. Like FF's complete ignorance of NCSTAR 1-9, and the notorious Table 5-3:

And they wonder why the world laughs at them!

 

[rwguinn]

I would add one more.

Credible source: someone who performs experiments, explains how they were done, and then arrives at the correct conclusions.

If the "correct conclusion " is one that you want to hear, only.

 

[ProBonoShill]

I would add one more.

Credible source: someone who performs experiments, explains how they were done, and then arrives at the correct conclusions.

Well I guess that eliminates that fraud Cole, got anyone else?