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From my 2015 rpt. Ex-DOJ FOIA official on HRC email practice: "blatant circumvention of FOIA & Federal Records Act"

-Jason Leopold, and confirmed by the IG's report today.

Man, every single thing Hillary has said about this is confirmed to be a huge lie

" did not comply with the Department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."

Is not the same as:

"blatant circumvention of FOIA & Federal Records Act"

But don't let facts get in the way of your hatred.
 
" did not comply with the Department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act."

Is not the same as:

"blatant circumvention of FOIA & Federal Records Act"

But don't let facts get in the way of your hatred.

Not only that but, "did not comply with the Department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act," is exactly what I've been saying. The investigation found using personal email addresses were a common practice not only in the State Department, but no doubt if you had a similar evaluation of other federal government agencies, it would turn up the same results.

That report was exactly akin to the reports one finds with any workplace inspection looking to see if said workplace was in compliance with federal and state regulations. I've never seen a single inspection that scored 100% perfect.

This is also a good indication that unless the FBI has some conclusive evidence of intent to subvert the law, they will also conclude Clinton's email use was an error but not a criminal error.
 
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The State Department’s independent watchdog has issued a highly critical analysis of Hillary Clinton’s email practices while running the department, concluding that she failed to seek legal approval for her use of a private email server and that department staff would not have given its blessing because of the “security risks in doing so.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...6f8ebc-2275-11e6-aa84-42391ba52c91_story.html

"'Everybody does it,'” is an excuse expected from a mischievous child, not a presidential candidate." NYT
 
"and attorneys within the Office of the Legal Adviser....stated that they were not asked to approve or otherwise review the use of Secretary Clinton’s server and that they had no knowledge of approval or review by other Department staff."
IG Report p. 37
 
Not only that but, "did not comply with the Department’s policies that were implemented in accordance with the Federal Records Act," is exactly what I've been saying. The investigation found using personal email addresses were a common practice not only in the State Department, but no doubt if you had a similar evaluation of other federal government agencies, it would turn up the same results.

That report was exactly akin to the reports one finds with any workplace inspection looking to see if said workplace was in compliance with federal and state regulations. I've never seen a single inspection that scored 100% perfect.
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Let's try again. The fact that some officials occasionally conducted some official business on their personal email accounts instead of their government accounts is a distraction. The issue here is that Hillary never had a government account! She went to great lengths to conduct all of her business through her private account and to keep all of her communications away from parties who were legally, legitimately entitled to access. That's why this is an issue. The fact that her private server may have been exposed to hackers, or the fact that secrets may have been transmitted non-securely, makes it worse. But the core issue is that Hillary -- by installing and using a private server under her exclusive control -- did something no one else has done, and it tells us a lot about her character and judgment. Her subsequent sneers -- "Ah, I just wanted to carry a Blackberry!" "Wipe it? You mean with a cloth?" -- tell us more.
 
The investigation found using personal email addresses were a common practice not only in the State Department, but no doubt if you had a similar evaluation of other federal government agencies, it would turn up the same results.

I do not doubt that using personal email addresses is common. But how common is setting up your own personal server? How common is using that personal address exclusively for all government business?

What Hillary did was not usual at all.
 
Let's try again. The fact that some officials occasionally conducted some official business on their personal email accounts instead of their government accounts is a distraction. The issue here is that Hillary never had a government account! She went to great lengths to conduct all of her business through her private account and to keep all of her communications away from parties who were legally, legitimately entitled to access. That's why this is an issue.

I don't think that accurately describes all the business she conducted where she sent email to someone else at a state dept. or .GOV email. (which I believe covers the majority of it, but I would be interested in seeing how many of her emails don't actually have a .gov recipient somewhere.)

I find it outrageous that a FOIA search couldn''t find emails sent to HRC, whether or not she had an official state dept email address. That nonsense goes way past Clinton herself, and speaks to the debacle that is US Govt record keeping.

The fact that her private server may have been exposed to hackers, or the fact that secrets may have been transmitted non-securely, makes it worse. But the core issue is that Hillary -- by installing and using a private server under her exclusive control -- did something no one else has done, and it tells us a lot about her character and judgment. Her subsequent sneers -- "Ah, I just wanted to carry a Blackberry!" "Wipe it? You mean with a cloth?" -- tell us more.

I think her subsequent "sneers" are simply politics, and tell us much less than you and others like 16.5 think it does.
 
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I find it outrageous that a FOIA search couldn''t find emails sent to HRC, whether or not she had an official state dept email address. That nonsense goes way past Clinton herself, and speaks to the debacle that is US Govt record keeping.
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Without defending The Government, broadly speaking, the record keepers can't find records they don't have. Anything Clinton exchanged with someone who didn't have a gov. address wouldn't be on government servers. And FOIA requests have to be tailored pretty precisely; it's easy for bureaucrats to evade requests on technicalities.

CNN is running clips of Hillary making claims that are directly contradicted by the IG report ("I consulted the proper officials, I received permission," etc.). She also, unlike all other Secs State, apparently would not cooperate with the investigation.
 
Background briefing, regarding the missing smoking gun email:

With respect to that second email, or the email that you were referencing, I don’t think I know exactly where we obtained that email. I think you are correct that it is not in the emails that we put online. We do have it; it is in our custody. But as to why we wouldn’t have it from Secretary Clinton in what she turned over, I would have to refer you to her and her team on that.

I wonder why the IG didn't ask her that? Oh right, Hillary Clinton and Huma refused to cooperate.

She wants to be President
 
“I’m more than ready to talk to anybody, anytime. And I’ve encouraged all of, you know, my assistants to be very forthcoming.

H. Clinton

[paraphrase]Clinton and her aides chose not to cooperate with the review.[/paraphrase]
State Department IG Report Fn 7.

Yeah, that needs no further comment....
 
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H. Clinton


State Department IG Report Fn 7.

Yeah, that needs no further comment....

But but but Colin Powell once lied to his mama about cleaning the cat box, so it doesn't matter.
 
H. Clinton


State Department IG Report Fn 7.

Yeah, that needs no further comment....

As usual, dishonest cherry pick.

"Let me ask you about developments in the investigation into your email server. Apparently the FBI has contacted your team in terms of talking to you. What can you tell us about that?"

Clinton just said she, herself, hasn't been contacted by the FBI, but made no mention about the FBI contacting her aides.

"No one has reached out to me yet but last summer, I think last August, I made it clear I'm more than ready to talk to anybody anytime, and I've encouraged all my assistants to be very forthcoming, and I hope this is close to being wrapped up."
 
But speaking on CNN, Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said the State Department's system was in such disarray, it thwarted Clinton's effort to meet standard under the law for printing and filing her records.

Bwhahaha!!! That might be the dumbest god damn thing I have ever seen.

Thwart her efforts to print stuff off her cowboy server?

How stupid does the campaign think her supporters are?
 
It seemed clear to me that the response parsed as she didn't want to give her personal email address to all her employees because then it would be out there in the public for all to see and use.

Which, I assume, would make it impossible to use as an email address, unless she had a someone sifiting it for her 24x7.

YMMV

Thanks. For some reason, I was repeatedly reading personal as personnel.
 
Thanks. For some reason, I was repeatedly reading personal as personnel.

Yeah, that is probably why her top staff instructed some underlings:

"never to speak of the Secretary’ s personal email system again."

"personal" being a misnomer of course, given that it was her only email account, which government employees were told " never to speak of ... again."

Damn, what a bunch of thugs....
 
This is the most interesting part of the OIG report I've seen.

DS then notified the Ambassador via cable on July 20, 2011, that the FAM did not permit him to
use non-government email for day-to-day operations.161 The cable stated in relevant part:


The language in 12 FAM 544.3, which states that “it is the Department's general policy
that normal day-to-day operations be conducted on an authorized [automated
information system]” is purposely included to place employees on notice that if they are
given a tool that provides an adequate level of security encryption, such as an OpenNet
terminal … or any other Department-supplied security mechanism that works in the
given circumstance, they must use it. 12 FAM 544.3 goes on to say that in the absence of
a Department-supplied security solution employees can send most SBU information
unencrypted via the internet only when necessary, with the knowledge that the nature of
the transmission lends itself to unauthorized access, however remote that chance might
be. … Given the threats that have emerged since 2005, especially in regard to phishing
and spoofing of certain web-based email accounts, we cannot allow the proliferation of
this practice beyond maintaining contact during emergencies. We are all working toward
the same end—to protect the availability, integrity and confidentiality of Department
information and systems, while recognizing that emergency situations may arise,
particularly for our employees serving overseas. … The Department is not aware of any
exigent circumstances in Nairobi that would authorize a deviation from the requirement
to use Department systems for official business.


However, the Ambassador continued to use unauthorized systems to conduct official business.
The Department subsequently initiated disciplinary proceedings against him for his failure to
follow these directions and for several other infractions, but he resigned before any disciplinary
measures were imposed

During Hillary's tenure at the Department of State, disciplinary action was initiated against Gration for using commercial email to conduct day to day business.
 
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It seemed clear to me that the response parsed as she didn't want to give her personal email address to all her employees because then it would be out there in the public for all to see and use.

Which, I assume, would make it impossible to use as an email address, unless she had a someone sifiting it for her 24x7.

YMMV


What!? Personal email address? She only had one email address, so she effectively said "screw you!" Whose fault was that? What a ridiculous excuse.

And, I just pulled up Barbara Boxer's email address. It's right there on the internet for all to see. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding what you are saying?

Barbara Boxer, CA Senator:
senator@boxer.senate.gov

Note the .gov? I'm guessing she has more than one email address, like many/most people.

How easy it would have been for Hillary to create an actual work address.

Her own excuses are some of the best evidence against her.
 
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Contemptible Clinton Campaign Clown claims that the State Inspector General has an "anti-Clinton bias." Well that did not take long to attack the messenger.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...-aide-questions-timing-of-email-investigation

“I’m more than ready to talk to anybody, anytime. And I’ve encouraged all of, you know, my assistants to be very forthcoming."*

*not the press, and certainly not the State Department Inspector General!
 
Let's try again. The fact that some officials occasionally conducted some official business on their personal email accounts instead of their government accounts is a distraction. The issue here is that Hillary never had a government account! She went to great lengths to conduct all of her business through her private account and to keep all of her communications away from parties who were legally, legitimately entitled to access. That's why this is an issue. The fact that her private server may have been exposed to hackers, or the fact that secrets may have been transmitted non-securely, makes it worse. But the core issue is that Hillary -- by installing and using a private server under her exclusive control -- did something no one else has done, and it tells us a lot about her character and judgment. Her subsequent sneers -- "Ah, I just wanted to carry a Blackberry!" "Wipe it? You mean with a cloth?" -- tell us more.

Doesn't change a thing. Mucking up workplace regulations no matter the degree as in this case is simply not criminal.

This is what all you wishfully thinking right wingers fail to understand. You can find workplace regulation laws broken in any large establishment on any day. And some of those 'broken laws' are serious laws and serious offenses.

No one gets indicted. Not unless you kill a bunch of people and get charged with criminal negligence. Or unless you break additional laws like General Petraeus did.
 
I do not doubt that using personal email addresses is common. But how common is setting up your own personal server? How common is using that personal address exclusively for all government business?

What Hillary did was not usual at all.
Nope, but you aren't going to see a criminal indictment out of it regardless.
 
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