If it doesn't agree with experiment, it's wrong. Part II

[MileHighMadness]

21000 professionals that say freefall occurred for 2.25 seconds.

Freefall is meaningless, it doesn't prove or disprove anything. Professional who understand simple physics and structural dynamics understand this...

 

[jaydeehess]

No. The video does not "cry politics". The video is about dodging questions and saying nonsensical things. In other words, it's about skeptics.

The 'questions' have been addressed. The fact that you don't like the responses is too bad. Sucks to be you.

 

[FalseFlag]

Freefall is meaningless, it doesn't prove or disprove anything. Professional who understand simple physics and structural dynamics understand this...

Really? Please provide a link to a credible source that claims the freefall observed during the collapse of WTC7 is meaningless. Thanks.

 

[FalseFlag]

Sucks to be you.

Maybe, but it's irrelevant.

 

[MileHighMadness]

Really? Please provide a link to a credible source that claims the freefall observed during the collapse of WTC7 is meaningless. Thanks.

I don't have to...I believe in science and the truth...you believe in stupid.

 

[jaydeehess]

Really? Please provide a link to a credible source that claims the freefall observed during the collapse of WTC7 is meaningless. Thanks.

To competent people it's quite obvious it is meaningless. That period occurs 1.75 seconds AFTER the entire structure was already moving. No one has explained why a) a CD of all columns would be required at this point in the collapse, b) how 'explaining' this time period minutia fits in with NIST'S assigned task. ( perhaps Seasame Street has a clip on the difference between before and after, if you are confused by the word)

 

[jsfisher]

Interesting how Falseflag is an expert, but only when it is convenient. I suppose that saves on having to answer a lot of embarrassing questions.

 

[waypastvne]

I dedicate this video to all the "skeptics" on this subforum.

https://youtu.be/Kl8ajhu_e5Y

Have you considered joining the Church of the Subgenius ?

Bob Dobbs could use a true subgeines like you.




Eternal salvation or triple your money back.

 

[FalseFlag]

Have you considered joining the Church of the Subgenius ?

Bob Dobbs could use a true subgeines like you.




Eternal salvation or triple your money back.

Did you watch all 85 minutes of that video? If so, I think you joined by default.

 

[FalseFlag]

I believe in science and the truth

I couldn't pick which one was better, so I dedicate them both to you.

 

[FalseFlag]

Interesting how Falseflag is an expert, but only when it is convenient. I suppose that saves on having to answer a lot of embarrassing questions.

I am not an expert. If you can't accept this as fact, what on earth makes you believe that anyone thinks you can accept any facts at all?

 

[MileHighMadness]

So FalseFlag, how many years of your life are you going to waste believing in the stupidest idea in the history of mankind?

 

[beachnut]

That FalseFlag can claim with a straight face that "The force of gravity between the Earth and the building are NOT equal and opposite to each other" proves, beyond a shadow of any doubt, that FF is not competent to discuss physics at any level.

Thus, this ends the thread.

FalseFlag is spamming the forum, and failed to grasp the end.

Ignorance in physics is required to believe the fantasy claims of 9/11 truth, a movement based on the overwhelming ignornace of its followers.
14 years of failure to launch.

 

[pgimeno]

A certain joke about reasons for not arguing with an idiot comes to my mind...

I invite everyone to re-read the last page or two.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

A proper investigation would provide the answers you seek.

Support a new investigation by signing the petition:

http://action.ae911truth.org/p/sals...up_page_KEY=10056&killorg=True&loggedOut=True

I investigated the claims personally, they are rubbish trash stupid, you are free to do
the same with your own time and money as I did.

I even built an a model of the buildings and weighted it appropriately to compensate for the energy values and dropped it one story, 12 feet onto the lower structure while both were on fire, guess what, same motions as the towers, and event, that I noticed such as increased oxidation, and higher than expected temperatures, along with gunpowder like explosive fuel air blasts.

If you exactly match the energy values in the scale model, the results are the same
As in the real collapses but that requires the effort to do the experiment correctly matching
Exactly the energy values.

My columns were 40 ft, 2inch upset oil well tubing, I weighted the top part to compensate for
The fact Gravity does not scale, and dropped a section of constructed upper block, on the lower portion.
When the connections broke the structure disassembled just like the towers.
My outer structure was wire panels, the hat truss was oil well pump rod.

My model told me exactly what I wanted to know the energy released in the collapses was sufficient to cause increased oxidation to release significant amounts of chemical energy,
The result of which would be unusual chemical reactions in the rubble pile.

All you view in the collapses is simple connection failures, Cole's models don't even attempt to replicate the collapses.
Cole's models are a deliberate fraud, Joining a group of hoaxers and frauds is not wise!

So you see FF, I did the experiment correctly years before Cole ever tried, and could duplicate it any time
I wished but since I know Cole is a fraud, and you know it too, it is not worth my time and effort to refute
Ignorance and intellectual dishonesty.

All it takes is correctly matching the energy values and creating the conditions nessisary for
Connection failures rapid enough to duplicate the motions.

 

[jsfisher]

I am not an expert. If you can't accept this as fact, what on earth makes you believe that anyone thinks you can accept any facts at all?

I can and do accept your non-expertise as a demonstrated fact.

 

[Crazy Chainsaw]

I can and do accept your non-expertise as a demonstrated fact.

I accept both his and Coles non expertise, as a highly demonstrated fact.

 

[swright777]

Really? Please provide a link to a credible source that claims the freefall observed during the collapse of WTC7 is meaningless. Thanks.

Here you go.

 

[FalseFlag]

I can and do accept your non-expertise as a demonstrated fact.

Finally. Something we can agree on.

 

[Redwood]

Originally Posted by FalseFlag
Really? Please provide a link to a credible source that claims the freefall observed during the collapse of WTC7 is meaningless. Thanks.

To competent people it's quite obvious it is meaningless. That period occurs 1.75 seconds AFTER the entire structure was already moving. No one has explained why a) a CD of all columns would be required at this point in the collapse, b) how 'explaining' this time period minutia fits in with NIST'S assigned task. ( perhaps Seasame Street has a clip on the difference between before and after, if you are confused by the word)

It's as meaningless as the final collapse of some columns AFTER the North Facade has fallen. You can see it in all the videos. Engineers don't care about it, and Richard Gage can't impute some sinister meaning to it, so nobody talks about it. But it is kind of interesting, and surely is part of a "complete explanation". Scroll through them and you'll see what I mean. (Note that these screenshots are from Gage's own "documentary" )