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General Holocaust denial discussion Part III

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RIP Jules Schelvis

Jules Schelvis was one of the 18 Dutch survivors, out of ca. 34,000, who survived Sobibor. That is, he was one of the lucky few who were shipped off to one of Sobibor's satellite camps to do forced labor.

After his retirement in 1982, he decided to document his own experiences and raise awareness and honor the memory of those who died in Sobibor, and became one of the leading experts on the camp. The University of Amsterdam awarded him a honorary doctorate for his historical work.

In Memoriam at the Foundation Sobibor which he founded
News article at Dutchnews.nl

Today, he passed away in the age of 95 years.
 
Denying History By Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman - A Critique

Denying History - Who Says The Holocaust Didn't Happen and Why Do They Say It? by Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman was published in 2000 and was supposed to put an end to the arguments of the holocaust revisionists. But not everyone was convinced. Here are 2 critiques -
Paul Grubach - http://codoh.com/library/document/405/
Samuel Crowell - http://codoh.com/library/document/2960/
 
Mondial said:
Denying History - Who Says The Holocaust Didn't Happen and Why Do They Say It? by Michael Shermer and Alex Grobman was published in 2000 and was supposed to put an end to the arguments of the holocaust revisionists. But not everyone was convinced. Here are 2 critiques -
Paul Grubach - http://codoh.com/library/document/405/
Samuel Crowell - http://codoh.com/library/document/2960/
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Holocaust deniers not accepting a refutation of their position? Next thing you'll post is that David Barton won't accept that the refutations of his works as they are "anti-Christian."
 
I read the book and thought it was quite good. My guess here is that Alex Grobman wrote much of the best part of it. I thought that Shermer's pieces, particularly those in the later edition, were a bit too autobiographical and became a bit silly with his critiques of Niall Ferguson.

A good book on this subject is Lying About Hitler by Richard Evans in which Evans gives an account of the trial in which David Irving tried to sue for libel and was rightly defeated.
 
Mondial said:
Eric Hunt has made a new revisionist documentary called Questioning The Holocaust - http://questioningtheholocaust.com
A thread at CODOH about this - https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=10345
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As a matter of fact I left this website after having read the sentence "The miniseries explores how we were manipulated into believing six million Jews were systematically exterminated in gas chambers deceptively disguised as shower rooms.

I wonder how this guy can question the holocaust when he proves in one single sentence that he has absolutely no actual knowledge of the facts...
 
Degeneve said:
I wonder how this guy can question the holocaust when he proves in one single sentence that he has absolutely no actual knowledge of the facts...
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Eric Hunt has been in and out of non voluntary psychiatric care.
http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Wiesel-tormentor-must-seek-mental-health-care-3272563.php

In essence Bradley Smith who owned the denier website, CODOH, died a couple moths ago. Bradley Smith ran a donation scam taking large amounts of money off holocaust deniers to book $67 adverts in college newspapers (which he rarely did). Another group of holocaust deniers is trying to take over that scam by issuing "slick videos" and seeking donations.
http://codoh.com/library/series/3997/

Eric Hunt posted on the Skeptic Society forum and seems to be associated with the very elderly denier, Friedrich Berg. Eric Hunt does not seem to have a personality of his own and does as he is told, by older deniers.

The good news is all these old serious denier blokes are dying off, simply through age. Younger people promoting holocaust denial simply bring it up as part of a list of evidences concerning government conspiracies and have no idea about the facts. It is these younger idiots that the Rense Organisation is trying to attract.
 
Reading that article in the SF Gate, I guess Hunt is off his medication again.

And looking at the associated website (Yay for incognito mode), I was amused by the list of 'questions' he has. I'm not going to watch the video though, to see if they're expanded upon in it.
 
Matthew Ellard said:
Mondail are you going to enter into discussion concerning all the deliberate errors in this holocaust denier propaganda video you posted?

Are you simply posting neo-Nazi propaganda?

Please state your intention.
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What errors are in the documentary Questioning The Holocaust ? -
http://questioningtheholocaust.com
Do you deny that the Allies bombed Nordhausen and that the victims of this air raid are referred to as victims of the Nazis when they were killed by Allied bombs ?
Why do you insist on calling anyone questioning the official holocaust story a neo nazi ? There are Jews who are holocaust revisionists -
https://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6912
Here are 2 articles from Veterans Today columnist Jonas E Alexis on the holocaust. He is a black man and not a neo nazi -
www.veteranstoday.com/2015/10/21/the-holocaust-is-a-racket/
www.veteranstoday.com/2016/04/12/the-holocaust-establishment-fails-yet-again/
 
KDLarsen said:
Reading that article in the SF Gate, I guess Hunt is off his medication again.
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The tragedy in this matter was Eric's suffering father and mother. After Eric assaulted Elie Wiesel and ran, Eric turned up at his father's house. The father paid for Eric's defence and in court.

Hunt pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity.
http://www.jweekly.com/article/full/33150/will-sorry-cut-it-for-alleged-wiesel-attacker/

However within 6 months Eric was back to having delusions and posting them as facts on holocaust denier websites and being manipulated by Freddy Berg.

As I said earlier, Bradley Smith died and other holocaust deniers are trying to takeover his donations scam by using Eric's glossy propaganda videos. These guys are simply small time scammers exploiting someone with mental health issues, for their personal financial gain.
 
Mondial? Are you the holocaust denier "Enquiring Minds" in the Skeptic Society forum?

Aren't you simply changing venues to repeat the same debunked holocaust denial propaganda?

Isn't this really just debunked spam?
 
Mondial said:
Here is another critique of the Shermer and Grobman book this time by Carlo Mattogno. Title is "Denying History ? Denying Evidence ! The Phony Convergence of Evidence to Prove the Holocaust -
www.codoh.com/library/document/1756/
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Yoo hoo Mondail? Are you there?

You keep spamming the forum with links to the neo-nazi website CODOH, but never respond to questions about the lies on that website.

Do you you intend to answer any questions or do you intend simply keep spamming neo-nazi propaganda on the forum?
 
Ah I see that errant thread by Mondial has finally found it proper home in the thread for "all things out of whack".
 
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