Hillary Clinton is Done: part 2

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BobTheCoward said:
They never said their material consists of unattributed posts on forums (astroturfing?). That is speculation.

Further, the quote you cite is money to support a forum. It did not say members of that forum are paid. Money goes to this forum for skeptics and us to share messaging with Facebook friends. How many threads in the paranormal forum have been about how to challenge a friend's woo? But we are not paid to spread that message.

Unless you jerks have been holding out on me.
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I've linked you to the complete press release. Semantics won't help you out of your silly and lazy statement that suspecting there could be people posting here not entirely out of innocent love for Clinton is a "conspiracy theory".

Correct the Record said:
[...] Correct The Record will invest more than $1 million into Barrier Breakers 2016 activities, including the more than tripling of its digital operation to engage in online messaging both for Secretary Clinton and to push back against attackers on social media platforms like Twitter, Facebook, Reddit, and Instagram. [...] The task force staff’s backgrounds are as diverse as the community they will be engaging with and include former reporters, bloggers, public affairs specialists, designers, Ready for Hillary alumni, and Hillary super fans who have led groups similar to those with which the task force will organize. [...] The task force currently combats online political harassment, having already addressed more than 5,000 individuals who have personally attacked Secretary Clinton on Twitter. [...]
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Childlike Empress said:
I've linked you to the complete press release. Semantics won't help you out of your silly and lazy statement that suspecting there could be people posting here not entirely out of innocent love for Clinton is a "conspiracy theory".
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I have read the entire press release. It does not say people are being paid to post on forum threads misrepresentng their motivation.

I will gladly drop the conspiracy charge. Instead, you are coming here on a skeptics forum announcing suspicions of something you have no evidence of.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I will gladly drop the conspiracy charge. Instead, you are coming here on a skeptics forum announcing suspicions of something you have no evidence of.
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Good move, but you're wrong again. I didn't announce those suspicions. I just provided information. I didn't even say that I have a problem with this "task force" (ok, I called it shady crap ;)). I only stated the fact that it is important to know that "shillaries" isn't just a cute word. I still wear the badge of "no claimer" with pride. :D
 
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Childlike Empress said:
Good move, but you're wrong again. I didn't announce those suspicions. I just provided information. I didn't even say that I have a problem with this "task force" (ok, I called it shady crap ;)). I only stated the fact that it is important to know that "shillaries" isn't just a cute word. I still wear the badge of "no claimer" with pride. :D
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I'm not sure how you are using shill then. It sounds like you include anyone in the business of relations. If you are imying there are people on forums that are being paid to appear as non paid advocates, you have no evidence ofthat.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I'm not sure how you are using shill then. It sounds like you include anyone in the business of relations. If you are imying there are people on forums that are being paid to appear as non paid advocates, you have no evidence ofthat.
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That "task force" brags to have addressed 5,000 individuals on twitter. And they give out a list of social media platforms including a forum called reddit they target. They are about to triple their operation, with another $1 million raised. That's evidence that there are people on social media that are being paid to appear as non paid advocates of Hillary Clinton, from the horse's mouth, period. That's what is called "shills" in Internet lingo.
 
The Dems have some 100% partisan, completely non-skeptical people posting here voluntarily all day, every day, so they really don't need to pay anyone.
 
Childlike Empress said:
That "task force" brags to have addressed 5,000 individuals on twitter. And they give out a list of social media platforms including a forum called reddit they target. They are about to triple their operation, with another $1 million raised. That's evidence that there are people on social media that are being paid to appear as non paid advocates of Hillary Clinton, from the horse's mouth, period. That's what is called "shills" in Internet lingo.
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We have no evidence of what they said on Twitter and no evidence of how employees represent themselves on Reddit. We actually have no idea if they make themselves out to be non paid or of they communicate that. We don't have evidence in any direction on this.
 
BobTheCoward said:
We have no evidence of what they said on Twitter and no evidence of how employees represent themselves on Reddit. We actually have no idea if they make themselves out to be non paid or of they communicate that. We don't have evidence in any direction on this.
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Your willingness to cross the red line of silliness makes me suspicious if maybe YOU ... ;) ... anyway, this conversation ends here, Bob.
 
BrooklynBaby said:
The Dems have some 100% partisan, completely non-skeptical people posting here voluntarily all day, every day, so they really don't need to pay anyone.
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The issue from the campaign perspective - and if this was actually an important forum - is that those people may be 100% Democratic Party supporters true to the cause but they cannot be guaranteed to get across the right talking points at the right time.

The Democratic Party supporting forumites may be mired in discussing the minutae of what Hillary may or may not have done with her email server when the campaign actually wants them to be saying the 3, 4 or 5 key points to refute some other thing.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Your willingness to cross the red line of silliness makes me suspicious if maybe YOU ... ;) ... anyway, this conversation ends here, Bob.
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If only we had a message tied to this group to know how they operate. Just because the nature of their work would make seeing evidence hard doesn't mean we can lower our standards for evidence.
 
Foolmewunz said:
More comprehension problems? Color me surprised.

One post quoted was referring to the practice of countering HDS suffering trolls by setting the record straight. I feel that it was a smart move.

The other post was in reaction to a chain of posts insinuating that there are paid shills, here, on these forums.

lolz back atcha!




Do you really wonder? Pull the other one. You just find it a convenient segue to revive one of your favorite no-one-cares-about-it dead horses. It's been a slow news week, so we understand.
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see it is a SMART move to pay shills to post prohillary claptrap on the Internet, but is is CRAZY to think that the prohillary shills posting prohillary claptrap on this site are getting paid. 'K.

By the way, Hillary running a racist campaign against Obama is "a no one cares about it" issue? Damn, that is a bold, albeit racist position.

/hope HillDawg got a discount for that post!:D
 
16.5 said:
see it is a SMART move to pay shills to post prohillary claptrap on the Internet, but is is CRAZY to think that the prohillary shills posting prohillary claptrap on this site are getting paid. 'K.
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That's absolutely correct. This is a poorly attended political forum and there are enough volunteers who are willing to carry their chosen candidates' lances onto the battlefield. Paying someone to post on the ISF would be about as great a return on the buck as having the anti-cholesterol medication concession at a steak house. You reach a small audience and you get ignored.

By the way, Hillary running a racist campaign against Obama is "a no one cares about it" issue? Damn, that is a bold, albeit racist position.
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Yeah, too little information.... Should've written "No one new cares." It's old news. It's got no legs. The severity of the "crime" has been examined and where you find pearl-clutching and heartburn, others have found "Meh?".

But no one's preventing you from continuing to beat that dead horse; it lends a certain charm to your desperation. The more lies and exaggerations you peddle, the more solid support for Hillary for standing up to the witch hunt.

/hope HillDawg got a discount for that post!:D
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Heh heh heh! That's some funny ****, dude. Now prove it or shut up. DO NOT ACCUSE ANYONE OF ANYTHING YOU CAN'T PROVE. Like your concept of spam, tu quoque, off topic and ad hom, your concept of "funny" is also off the mark.
 
16.5 said:
see it is a SMART move to pay shills to post prohillary claptrap on the Internet, but is is CRAZY to think that the prohillary shills posting prohillary claptrap on this site are getting paid. 'K.
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Since most of the pro-Hillary posters I see here have well over 2000 posts and have been on the site for years, are you suggesting that regular posters here are being paid? Seems like an Ad Hominem to me, you can dismiss any arguments you don't like because your opponents are being paid. Also a form of poisoning the well. Either way, I'd suggest walking the rope carefully as accusing other posters of such is against the rules and has resulted in people being carded before.
 
Steve said:
As you took the time to post this, Roger Ramjets, would you care to share your opinion of the quote, and the contents of the art icle?
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This is what really pisses me off about this thread. Too many just post excerpts from articles without any commentary at all. It's simply spamming, and has no place in forums like this.
 
Steve said:
As you took the time to post this, Roger Ramjets, would you care to share your opinion of the quote, and the contents of the art icle?
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In my opinion the quote is very accurate, and is in fact exactly what was said. Yet another person who is valued for their keen insight has a less than flattering opinion of Hillary. A person who only a short time ago described Hillary as "a terrific woman" who "works hard" and "does a good job". What changed his mind?

Joseph Goebbels said "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it". A consensus is growing that Hillary is untrustworthy. Progressive media outlets are continually pushing this meme. Why? Obviously it must be true. And that means Hillary is done!
 
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