Bubba Clinton Shouts Down BLM Hecklivists

[Brainster]

Surprised not to see a thread on this, but it is definitely trending:

In a prolonged exchange Thursday afternoon, former President Bill Clinton forcefully defended his 1994 crime bill to Black Lives Matter protesters in the crowd at a Hillary Clinton campaign event.

Bubba came back with a pretty strong response:

"I don't know how you would characterize the gang leaders who got 13-year-old kids hopped up on crack and sent them out onto the street to murder other African-American children," Clinton said, addressing a protester who appeared to interrupt him repeatedly. "Maybe you thought they were good citizens .... You are defending the people who kill the lives you say matter. Tell the truth. You are defending the people who cause young people to go out and take guns."

Clinton went on to tout the results of the 1994 crime bill:

Because of that bill, we have a 25-year low in crime, a 33-year low in murder rate. And because of that and the background check law, we had a 46-year low in the deaths of people by gun violence, and who do you think those lives were? That mattered? Whose lives were saved that mattered?"

That's skirting awfully close to the much-derided (by liberals) observation that if Black Lives Matter, why don't the activists focus on black-on-black crime (which kills far more blacks than police officers do), and the Big Dog istaking some heat for it:

I wonder if there’s a part of Bill Clinton that doesn't really want Hillary Clinton to become president, particularly if she has to distance herself from his legacy to do so. How else to explain why one of the world’s most talented and agile politicians is so consistently flat-footed and destructive when advocating on his wife’s behalf? How else to explain his terrible and destined-to-be-viral confrontation Thursday with Black Lives Matter protesters in Philadelphia?

Politically, of course, Clinton's response was problematic. The correct thing for Democratic politicians to do when BLM activists harass them is to assume the position, acknowledge their wrongdoing and resolve never to make the same mistake again.

For Hillary, Bubba's response is potentially a disaster in the making. Black voters have been supporting her in overwhelming numbers, and this incident will almost certainly have some of them wondering if it's time to feel the Bern.

 

[DavidJames]

What Clinton said will resonate with rational people. So no, it won't have an impact on HRC. Unfortunately for Republicans, the stereotype they like to apply to blacks only appears in their imaginations.

 

[Ziggurat]

For Hillary, Bubba's response is potentially a disaster in the making.

Maybe not. Could end up being Sister Souljah Moment v2.0.

 

[Ziggurat]

What Clinton said will resonate with rational people. So no, it won't have an impact on HRC. Unfortunately for Republicans, the stereotype they like to apply to blacks only appears in their imaginations.

The stereotype you like to apply to Republicans only appears in your imagination.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

if Black Lives Matter, why don't the activists focus on black-on-black crime (which kills far more blacks than police officers do)

This is nothing more than a tu quoque. Blacks already know that their own lives matter, so what they do to themselves is irrelevant. Black Lives Matter was formed in response to police brutality, not gang violence (if only they would stick to that issue they might get more sympathy...).

In this instance Bill Clinton is correct. His crime law saved Black lives, and was not responsible for massively increased incarceration rates.

The Clinton-backed 1994 crime law... didn't create mass incarceration

the 1994 law simply didn't have that much of an effect on prisons and jails: The black incarceration rate in particular continued a decade-plus-long climb after the law, but began a steady decline soon after.

So if anything, VCCLEA actually reduced incarceration rates, a positive result that BLM should be congratulating him for!

The correct thing for Democratic politicians to do when BLM activists harass them is to assume the position, acknowledge their wrongdoing and resolve never to make the same mistake again.

Who says that? BLM obviously, but who else? Berniebots, Clinton haters, republicans? Liberals may agree with BLM on some issues, but we certainly won't 'assume the position' just because they demand it.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Sounds like another case of people going by soundbites, and the social media echo chambers.

Bill Clinton Cites Regrets in Showdown With Black Lives Matter Protesters

“I know those young people yesterday were just trying to get good television,” Mr. Clinton said Friday of the Black Lives Matter protesters who interrupted him Thursday in accusing Hillary Clinton of being responsible for black deaths. “But that doesn’t mean that I was most effective in answering it.”

 

[The Big Dog]

Sounds like another case of people going by soundbites, and the social media echo chambers.

I did giggle that you posted an apology soundbite.

By the way, lets take a gander at that soundbite shall we:

“I know those young people yesterday were just trying to get good television.”

Yeah, Bill, that was all they were concerned with, getting on TV. Not criticizing your and Hillary's abysmal record.

What an idiotic comment.

Man, if that was a Clinton Campaign vetted comment, than that campaign has more trouble than even i thought.

 

[logger]

Don't they realize he is the first black president, never mind his mentor William Fulbright.

 

[BenBurch]

The Sanders campaign smiled...

 

[Fudbucker]

Maybe not. Could end up being Sister Souljah Moment v2.0.

That's immediately what I thought, but wasn't the Souljah moment in the general election? I don't see how this helps Hillary in a primary battle, where her strength is her support by black people.

But kudos to Bill for standing up for himself.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

The one thing I don't get is, why aren't the Clintons ready for these guys? There were a couple of them on CNN tonight with Don Lemon swearing Bill called all blacks criminals when he said no such thing.

They really should be ready to address the crime bill effects, what worked, what didn't and make a clear point of saying that they've never referred to 'all blacks' with any of the super-predator labels.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

This is nothing more than a tu quoque. Blacks already know that their own lives matter, so what they do to themselves is irrelevant. Black Lives Matter was formed in response to police brutality, not gang violence (if only they would stick to that issue they might get more sympathy...).

In this instance Bill Clinton is correct. His crime law saved Black lives, and was not responsible for massively increased incarceration rates.

The Clinton-backed 1994 crime law... didn't create mass incarcerationSo if anything, VCCLEA actually reduced incarceration rates, a positive result that BLM should be congratulating him for!


Who says that? BLM obviously, but who else? Berniebots, Clinton haters, republicans? Liberals may agree with BLM on some issues, but we certainly won't 'assume the position' just because they demand it.

Why is the crime bill being blamed and why aren't the Clintons both pointing out this data?

 

[TragicMonkey]

The one thing I don't get is, why aren't the Clintons ready for these guys?

Because twenty years ago somebody told Bill Clinton that black people love him, and both he and Hillary have been taking that entire population's support for granted ever since.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

Because twenty years ago somebody told Bill Clinton that black people love him, and both he and Hillary have been taking that entire population's support for granted ever since.

Sorry, not an explanation that works.

 

[Hungry81]

Sorry, not an explanation that works.

Well, feel free to make up your own explanation then.

 

[Donal]

Maybe not. Could end up being Sister Souljah Moment v2.0.

Hopefully not. While that was great political theater, it was actually pretty horrible. Bill sucking up to conservative whites while whitesplaining to "you people". I read Double Down about the 2012 election not too long ago and there was a couple mentions about how folks wanted Obama to have a "Sister Souljah" moment to give him some moderate credit.

And the DNC is going to wonder where the Black vote went soon.

 

[TragicMonkey]

Sorry, not an explanation that works.

Does so!

 

[Tricky]

He tried to engage them and get them to make some points, but they just wanted to shout slogans. He made it quite clear that he does not mind protesters voicing coherent criticisms.

 

[The Big Dog]

He tried to engage them and get them to make some points, but they just wanted to shout slogans. He made it quite clear that he does not mind protesters voicing coherent criticisms.

No he most certainly did not

Bill Clinton's shameless answer to Black Lives Matter protesters

 

[sunmaster14]

Hopefully not. While that was great political theater, it was actually pretty horrible. Bill sucking up to conservative whites while whitesplaining to "you people". I read Double Down about the 2012 election not too long ago and there was a couple mentions about how folks wanted Obama to have a "Sister Souljah" moment to give him some moderate credit.

And the DNC is going to wonder where the Black vote went soon.

I would like somebody to explain what "whitesplaining" is. Is it possible for a white person to do that, or do I need to find a black person to do it for me?