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Bullish on Bernie: The Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread

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Joey McGee said:
Not at all, I'm cheering on Jon Haidt and feeling sorry for real conservatives everywhere, but when John McCain says he'll support Trump because he doesn't want to disrespect Lincoln's party, I think that's pretty ****in weak... don't you?
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I think that Lincoln would be pretty shocked to see what the Republican Party has become.
 
Maya22 said:
I think that Lincoln would be pretty shocked to see what the Republican Party has become.
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Lincoln was a Progressive, of course he wouldn't just be shocked, he would have been dismayed and disappointed at the radicalized, extremist, conservatism and corruption (which always seem to go hand in hand).
 
Tony Stark said:
Hell, God-President Ronald Reagan would probably be shocked at the state of the modern Republican party.
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Nah, Reagan would have understood exactly what Trump is doing, the only difference between Trump and Reagan is that Reagan went and actually got some legitimate political experience before he ran for president, that, and the acting experience.
 
Tony Stark said:
Oh, OK so they believe that the rest of the polls are more than Michigan level wrong. Except the Bernie vs Trump polls.

That totally changes everything.

LOL.
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Yep. As I posted earlier:

Berntard #1: We won Michigan! The polls are all inaccurate! Don't believe them!

Berntard #2: Bernie is the only one who can beat Trump. Look at all these polls that prove it!
 
Hilarious! After Bill Clinton gets up there and attacks Obama's awful legacy, the Clinton Campaign's first reaction is to attack Bernie Sanders!

What a gang of *********** thugs.

Hillary is again running one of the worst campaigns ever, only to be overshadowed by her good friend Donald Trump.

Say, who did Donald Trump talk to and convinced him to run for President.

He enjoys bj's in the oval office, big cigars and lying under oath:

yep, Bill Clinton.
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
So Bernie is losing to someone running the worst campaign ever? #feelthebern
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So far, but it ain't over until the fat lady sings, and I don't see Hillary gargling just yet. Plus the Shillaries have a fairly deep masochist streak in them you know.

Shillary: We are really concerned about Wall Street!
Hillary: I'm not releasing my Goldman Sachs transcripts.
Shillaries: Oh... no problem, we trust you Hillary!
Hillary: No classified information in my emails....
Shillaries:... Uh, we know! Vast Right Wing Conspiracy!
Hillary: No Americans died in Libya, which wasn't a total cluster ****
Shillaries: :eye-poppi. We still love you Hillary!
Hillary: Shut up

Feel the Bern Incessantly
 
AlaskaBushPilot said:
Yea, they (Saudi Arabia) can "do more", like stop killing Americans. That's a great way to do more for America. Stop killing Americans.
Sorry Bernie, you don't measure up here.
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Bernie (and no other president candidate for that matter*) won't say that, since Saudi Arabia (for all practical intentions and purposes it is ISIS-lite) is formally USA ally.

Pretty ridiculous result of realpolitik, isn't it?

Ontopic: current exercise in denial from Bernie's supporters is hilarious. Bernie already lost. Get over it. Carry on, I can use more laugh.

* Possibly beside Trump. Not because Trump is insightful, but because he does not give flying **** about what he says.
 
I'm at the point now where when anyone says "it's the money" I think of the history channel guys. I'm not saying it's aliens/the money, but, aliens/money.
 
Joey McGee said:
I'm at the point now where when anyone says "it's the money" I think of the history channel guys. I'm not saying it's aliens/the money, but, aliens/money.
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It's not about raw dollars, it's about political influence, which goes far beyond campaign contributions. "The money" refers to corporations that have influence above and beyond campaign dollars, but have continuing influence throughout the tenure of politicians, and afterwards through donations to other projects, "speaking fees", honoraria, post-political-career employment, investments (look at how many politicians have investments in companies that receive favourable legislation and tax breaks).

And then there is the media coverage during the election, which tends to be much more favourable to one candidate over another, depending on who the corporate ownership/board supports. And the backroom cronyism, since politicians have to come from somewhere, and typically it's money, some having served on the boards or upper managment of the corps and maintain their contacts. Not to mention their influence over an entire political machine, such as the DNC.

And, of course, politicians always look toward their next campaign, and have no interest in alienating their most important sources of ongoing funding and support by enacting unfavourable legislation. Look at the Disney-spearheaded changes to copyright law over the last half-dozen decades, for example.

Raw dollars spent on a campaign is not even close to the whole story.

Interestingly many corporations contribute to both sides of an election, hedging their bets.
 
luchog said:
It's not about raw dollars, it's about political influence, which goes far beyond campaign contributions. "The money" refers to corporations that have influence above and beyond campaign dollars, but have continuing influence throughout the tenure of politicians, and afterwards through donations to other projects, "speaking fees", honoraria, post-political-career employment, investments (look at how many politicians have investments in companies that receive favourable legislation and tax breaks).

And then there is the media coverage during the election, which tends to be much more favourable to one candidate over another, depending on who the corporate ownership/board supports. And the backroom cronyism, since politicians have to come from somewhere, and typically it's money, some having served on the boards or upper managment of the corps and maintain their contacts. Not to mention their influence over an entire political machine, such as the DNC.

And, of course, politicians always look toward their next campaign, and have no interest in alienating their most important sources of ongoing funding and support by enacting unfavourable legislation. Look at the Disney-spearheaded changes to copyright law over the last half-dozen decades, for example.

Raw dollars spent on a campaign is not even close to the whole story.

Interestingly many corporations contribute to both sides of an election, hedging their bets.
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Explain Obama.
 
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