Bullish on Bernie: The Bernie Sanders 2016 Thread

[AlaskaBushPilot]

So Hillary is the Democratic nominee, pretty easy to see that as an independent.

It is looking like Hillary vs. Trump.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

So it would appear the pollsters are missing the independent vote in their counts.

 

[timhau]

+/-3% is a tie. No matter who is ahead.

Shouldn't a tied delegate count be a tie? After all, delegates are what you're after.

 

[wareyin]

Well Michigan was a shocker! Last I heard, we're still waiting on returns from one county, but Sanders pulled off quite an upset. Still, he is currently down by 214 pledged delegates even with Michigan. Count all delegates, and his situation is much more dire. Clinton currently has 1221 of the 2383 needed (more than halfway there) to Sanders' 571.

 

[NoahFence]

Well Michigan was a shocker! Last I heard, we're still waiting on returns from one county, but Sanders pulled off quite an upset. Still, he is currently down by 214 pledged delegates even with Michigan. Count all delegates, and his situation is much more dire. Clinton currently has 1221 of the 2383 needed (more than halfway there) to Sanders' 571.

We're spending so much time jaws agape at the clown car on the republican side that we're not noticing the awful situation on the democratic side. Sanders isn't down by that much, as these "Super" delegates have yet to vote.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

Another tough night for Bernie. A loss in Mississippi and a tie in Michigan, but falling farther and farther behind in the delegate race.

From the AP Delegate Tracker:

 

[wareyin]

We're spending so much time jaws agape at the clown car on the republican side that we're not noticing the awful situation on the democratic side. Sanders isn't down by that much, as these "Super" delegates have yet to vote.

The super delegates may yet change their votes if more polls are off as badly as Michigan was. Still, down by 214 pledged delegates is a significant hurdle for Sanders to overcome.

 

[BenBurch]

The super delegates may yet change their votes if more polls are off as badly as Michigan was. Still, down by 214 pledged delegates is a significant hurdle for Sanders to overcome.

We'll manage. It will take until the last Primary.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

We'll manage. It will take until the last Primary.

Unless Hillary gets there before that.

 

[NoahFence]

Another tough night for Bernie. A loss in Mississippi and a tie in Michigan, but falling farther and farther behind in the delegate race.

From the AP Delegate Tracker:

If Clinton lost Michigan, why does she have more delegates?

 

[Mike!]

If Clinton lost Michigan, why does she have more delegates?

I was wondering the same thing.

I know it doesn't matter, because the delegates rule the day, and given the weird square-dance activities that are the Democratic method, there may not be a definitive answer after all, but, I'm wondering, what are the actual vote totals, Bernie vs. Hillary?
Who is winning the popular vote between them, as of now?

 

[The Big Dog]

woo-hoo! Nice win for Bernie going into Ohio and Illinois next week. Bernie's "surprising" win put him on the lead of the National and Local news in Chicago.

C'mon, who you wanna vote for, a democrat or a turncoat Republican from Park Ridge.

Feel the Bern. I assume the Clintards will spend the whole day spinning Mississippi. I guess Hillary can only win states she is going to get crushed in November

 

[Tony Stark]

If Clinton lost Michigan, why does she have more delegates?

Because it includes super delegates.

 

[Belz...]

woo-hoo! Nice win for Bernie going into Ohio and Illinois next week. Bernie's "surprising" win put him on the lead of the National and Local news in Chicago.

C'mon, who you wanna vote for, a democrat or a turncoat Republican from Park Ridge.

Feel the Bern. I assume the Clintards will spend the whole day spinning Mississippi. I guess Hillary can only win states she is going to get crushed in November

Hillary's still going to win, though.

 

[varwoche]

If Clinton lost Michigan, why does she have more delegates?

In Michigan, Sanders gained 65 delegates, Clinton gained 58.

In Mississippi, Sanders gained 4 delegates, Clinton gained 20.

This does not include super-delegates.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

If Clinton lost Michigan, why does she have more delegates?

You'll have to consult the rules of the Democratic nominating process for the answer.

 

[The Central Scrutinizer]

In Michigan, Sanders gained 65 delegates, Clinton gained 58.

In Mississippi, Sanders gained 4 delegates, Clinton gained 20.

This does not include super-delegates.

It's a tie!!11!!1!11!!!!

 

[The Big Dog]

It's a tie!!11!!1!11!!!!

MISpinSpinISpinSpinIPPI

 

[lobosrul]

So, crunching the numbers:

Its currently Clinton 766, Sanders 549 in pledged delegates with 2711 still to go. 2026 are needed for a simple majority. Sanders needs 1477 of the remaining delegates to get there, which is 54.5%. That is of course if the super delegates decide to let the people decide. If not he'll need about a 150 majority, which means he needs right at 60% of remaining pledged delegates.

 

[NoahFence]

Because it includes super delegates.

It shouldn't.