The Theory of Relativity will begin to fall apart in 2016/2017

[MRC_Hans]

For inclination change to take place the sideward motion must be about same speed sideward as it is towards dark flow..
If less, the sideward RR will be weaker and the effect therefore also weaker inclination change.

Where does the energy come from the change the inclinations?

So there are no contradiction in what I wrote, but only a question of understanding all the RR-forces affecting solar systems and galaxies.
Or in short, - a question to have the overall perspective.
Or even shorter, - see the 3 RR influences (and EDFA) from Newtons second law perspective

There is no such thing as RR.

And amigo notice the ring of gas planets - these inclinations also tend to be aligned with both the solar system and galaxies.

No they don't. They are aligned with the planet's rotation axis.

Why ? – because everything is affected by the same overall RR and EDFA influences.
Does that make sense?

No, it makes no sense at all.

Just remember to take on the very heavy glasses when analyzing.

I recommend very dark glasses.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

Actually not. As I have often told you, you don't even follow the logic of your theory. You just follow your fantasy, which would not be a bad thing if you were writing fiction. With reality, however, it does not work well.

Hans

If that were true you would attack the theory and not me.
Let's just look at the year 2016, not in one single post you have specific attacked the theory but only me as a person.
Or just on empty basis rejected everything I claims.
It tells more about you skills to judge as it tells about me.

 

[Bjarne]

Where does the energy come from the change the inclinations?
Hans

First at all try to understand mysterious orbit inclinations aligment happens, this is what the ESA article shows, so the energy must come from somewhere.

RR is responsible, and therefore kinetic energy is lost. (mass converted to release of space-tension, - or loss of relativistic mass if you prefer).

Read also this… http://science27.com/magnetism

The next question is why are galaxies moving in these filaments, - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGcAfTVhpHA

 

[MRC_Hans]

First at all try to understand mysterious orbit inclinations aligment happens, this is what the ESA article shows, so the energy must come from somewhere.

Thar probably is because of the inherent angular momentum in the clusters. Whereas you claim an outside influence.

RR is responsible, and therefore kinetic energy is lost.

RR does not exist.

Hans

 

[MRC_Hans]

If that were true you would attack the theory and not me.
Let's just look at the year 2016, not in one single post you have specific attacked the theory but only me as a person.

I'd like to address your arguments, but ... you don't have any.

Hans

 

[Bjarne]

Astronomers say a Neptune-sized planet lurks beyond Pluto (Januar 2016)
Yes now agian....

WATCH THIS.......http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...eptune-sized-planet-lurks-unseen-solar-system

Now replace planet X with RR, and thats all you need..

 

[Bjarne]

Thar probably is because of the inherent angular momentum in the clusters.

Hans

Rubbish, if this was true ESA would't consider it as a mystery

 

[Daylightstar]

Astronomers say a Neptune-sized planet lurks beyond Pluto (Januar 2016)
Yes now agian....

WATCH THIS.......http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2016...eptune-sized-planet-lurks-unseen-solar-system

Now replace planet X with RR, and thats all you need..

Ah, another 'mistery-gap' to fill with your nonsense 'theory'.

 

[Daylightstar]

...
Why ? – because everything is affected by the same overall RR and EDFA influences.
Does that make sense?
...

None whatsoever.

 

[Daylightstar]

Rubbish, if this was true ESA would't consider it as a mystery

You should try to sell ESA your 'RR' idea. I predict they will not buy

 

[smartcooky]

That light does have mass (ie is affected by gravity) was one of the first predictions made by Relativity. It was confirmed by Eddington, who measured the deflection of the light from a star behind the sun by the sun's mass during a solar eclipse.

One way of looking at it is that the fact that photons have zero rest mass is the reason they travel at the speed of light. It's the only speed at which they can exist.

Hang on. Doesn't the light path bend because spacetime itself distorts, and since spacetime itself is the "medium" through which light travels, it must act accordingly?

Am I understanding this incorrectly?

 

[MRC_Hans]

Rubbish, if this was true ESA would't consider it as a mystery

They don't. Only the journalists.

Hans

 

[Reality Check]

If that were true you would attack the theory and not me.

Ok: There is no theory, Bjarne. There is an incoherent fantasy with a delusion about "RR".
The observation that you are very ignorant about basic science is an explanation for the incoherence of the fantasy.

 

[Reality Check]

Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow

Because quasars are easy to measure the inclination. ...

I snipped lies about a new theory predicting anything - a fantasy cannot predict anything.
Try to understand the science, Bjarne.

Oh dear, Bjarne, showing how ignorant you are with an image that has nothing to do with dark flow !
Spooky Alignment of Quasars Across Billions of Light-years

This is the observation that the supermassive black holes in these 19 quasars tend to be "either parallel or perpendicular to the directions of the large-scale structures to which they belong". Those structures go in various directions as you can see in the image which happens to be an artists impression !

ETA: The main point is that this science has nothing to do with this thread. Unless you are trying to show yet again that your ignorance and fantasies means that your opinion as stated in the thread title is just another a fantasy.

8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.

 

[Reality Check]

For inclination .....

Lots of incoherent nonsense, Bjarne. The simple fact is:
8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.

That you continue to display ignorance of science does make sense, Bjarne.
A galaxy forms out of a cloud of gas. Stellar systems rotate in roughly the same orientation as the galaxy. Planets in stellar systems also tend to have the same orientation.

Fantasies about "RR" and "EDFA" do not explain anything.

 

[Reality Check]

First at all try to understand mysterious orbit inclinations aligment happens, this is what the ESA article shows, so the energy must come from somewhere.

First of all recognize that you are fantasizing about the contents of the article, Bjarne , so that you can introduce an RR fantasy that explains nothing.
8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.

This is not an "orbit inclinations aligment" changing This is the existing orientation of a few quasars.

The science is really clear:
Alignment of quasar polarizations with large-scale structures

We have measured the optical linear polarization of quasars belonging to Gpc-scale quasar groups at redshift z ~ 1.3. Out of 93 quasars observed, 19 are significantly polarized. We found that quasar polarization vectors are either parallel or perpendicular to the directions of the large-scale structures to which they belong. Statistical tests indicate that the probability that this effect can be attributed to randomly oriented polarization vectors is of the order of 1%. We also found that quasars with polarization perpendicular to the host structure preferentially have large emission line widths while objects with polarization parallel to the host structure preferentially have small emission line widths. Considering that quasar polarization is usually either parallel or perpendicular to the accretion disk axis depending on the inclination with respect to the line of sight, and that broader emission lines originate from quasars seen at higher inclinations, we conclude that quasar spin axes are likely parallel to their host large-scale structures.

 

[Reality Check]

Astronomers say a Neptune-sized planet lurks beyond Pluto (Januar 2016)

Science followed by an RR fantasy, Bjarne. This is the abysmally ignorant idea that many cranks have - that their fantasies can explain everything that they read.

Astronomers say a Neptune-sized planet lurks beyond Pluto

 

[Reality Check]

Rubbish, if this was true ESA would't consider it as a mystery

We do not replace mysteries with delusions or fantasies or ignorance, Bjarne.
8 March 2016 Bjarne: An observation that has no connection with dark flow - the 19 quasars are parallel or perpendicular with the large scale structure they exist in.

A tiny fantasy, Bjarne - ESA do not consider this a mystery. The person who wrote the press release has the word mysterious in 2 places when describing the artists impression.

 

[abaddon]

Hang on. Doesn't the light path bend because spacetime itself distorts, and since spacetime itself is the "medium" through which light travels, it must act accordingly?

Am I understanding this incorrectly?

Well, sort of. There is no "medium". There is warped spacetime. Not the easiest concept. I certainly struggled with it.

 

[smartcooky]

Well, sort of. There is no "medium". There is warped spacetime. Not the easiest concept. I certainly struggled with it.

I know there is no medium (that's why I put it in quotes) its just that we hear physicists talking about "the fabric of spacetime" as if it was some kind of structure. I realise that is just a way describing a difficult concept, but the implication is that it acts like one, and if it does, then whether photons or not have mass seems irrelevant, they should still have to follow the path through space time