bin Laden was a ******* crazy conspiracy theorist

[Joey McGee]

“My dear wife,” he began. “I was told that you went to a dentist in Iran, and you were concerned about a filling she put in for you. Please let me know in detail … any suspicions that any of the brothers may have about chips planted in any way.”

http://lethbridgeherald.com/news/wo...-worried-wife-had-tracking-device-in-filling/

Jesus *********** Christ.

Terrorists are so full of conspiracy theories they make Alex Jones look like Dan Rather. Recently an ISIS groupie was caught before he shot up a Freemason's hall. Most jihadists are convinced that there is a US-Jewish plot to destroy Islam. bin Laden read Noam Chomsky. The list goes on and on. So think about that the next time you spend some "quality time" trying to debunk a conspiracy theorist on the internet. They probably aren't going to shoot up a freemason's hall. But there are people who will. So if you really want to be a debunker, maybe we should be targeting the followers of the world's greatest evil at the moment.

 

[ComfySlippers]

“My dear wife,” he began. “I was told that you went to a dentist in Iran, and you were concerned about a filling she put in for you. Please let me know in detail … any suspicions that any of the brothers may have about chips planted in any way.”



http://lethbridgeherald.com/news/wo...-worried-wife-had-tracking-device-in-filling/



Jesus *********** Christ.



Terrorists are so full of conspiracy theories they make Alex Jones look like Dan Rather. Recently an ISIS groupie was caught before he shot up a Freemason's hall. Most jihadists are convinced that there is a US-Jewish plot to destroy Islam. bin Laden read Noam Chomsky. The list goes on and on. So think about that the next time you spend some "quality time" trying to debunk a conspiracy theorist on the internet. They probably aren't going to shoot up a freemason's hall. But there are people who will. So if you really want to be a debunker, maybe we should be targeting the followers of the world's greatest evil at the moment.

Along with his porn collection he had quite a library of conspiracy theory nonsense. One theory, at the time, was that he studied the stuff so as to improve his skill at teaching ******** as truth to his moronic followers.

I've no idea how we mere mortals can convince the more dangerous followers of ******** that they are being lied to. The teachers of the nonsense are rather good at brainwashing and convincing their followers to kill people.

I think that rational thinking humans are doing a rather good job of knocking sense into the less 'dangerous' types. But it's a very slow job that will take a few lifetimes to complete.

My cabinet advise me that organised religion will cease to exist at lunchtime on June 23rd 2413. Possibly two o'clock if the cake is late.

 

[Jules Galen]

“My dear wife,” he began. “I was told that you went to a dentist in Iran, and you were concerned about a filling she put in for you. Please let me know in detail … any suspicions that any of the brothers may have about chips planted in any way.”

http://lethbridgeherald.com/news/wo...-worried-wife-had-tracking-device-in-filling/

Jesus *********** Christ.

Terrorists are so full of conspiracy theories they make Alex Jones look like Dan Rather. Recently an ISIS groupie was caught before he shot up a Freemason's hall. Most jihadists are convinced that there is a US-Jewish plot to destroy Islam. bin Laden read Noam Chomsky. The list goes on and on. So think about that the next time you spend some "quality time" trying to debunk a conspiracy theorist on the internet. They probably aren't going to shoot up a freemason's hall. But there are people who will. So if you really want to be a debunker, maybe we should be targeting the followers of the world's greatest evil at the moment.

C'mon Joey. Is Noam Chomsky such a bad guy?

 

[Joey McGee]

The Onion nails it



I have this vision of bin Laden sitting there in his study reading David Ray Griffin, laughing his ass off, just the same way we entertain ourselves with "alternative history"

I don't have all the best answers to how we start to reach the believers of the world's greatest evil... I have no doubt that the security agencies are engaged in this kind of "propaganda" in ways that would impress us, but the idea that we can reach out and send messages to that part of the world has come up in a lot of recent conferences and debates...

A lot of people say that the "New Atheists" are wasting their time, preaching to the choir... well I'm seeing that hardcore Islamists have been converted by watching Sam Harris on youtube... and that "Agent Storm" guy was worn down and typed "contradictions in the Koran" into google and ended up working for the Americans... it's not going to happen often or easily, but reaching out, using principles of psychology to avoid the "backfire effect" can't hurt.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Debunking-Handbook-now-freely-available-download.html

 

[Joey McGee]

C'mon Joey. Is Noam Chomsky such a bad guy?

He's a decent human being, but sadly, a complete loon. Recently said that the US and the UK are the greatest forces of evil on the planet. Makes a lot of young people very stupid and ineffectual. Every time some kid tells me that America is the biggest terrorist organization on the planet I die a little inside out of sadness for humanity. I could go on... I have contemplated starting a thread on Chomsky saying that about the US And the UK, but I think he's just crazy, and a waste of all our time. Start a new thread or lets not talk about it.

 

[Jules Galen]

The Onion nails it



I have this vision of bin Laden sitting there in his study reading David Ray Griffin, laughing his ass off, just the same way we entertain ourselves with "alternative history"

I don't have all the best answers to how we start to reach the believers of the world's greatest evil... I have no doubt that the security agencies are engaged in this kind of "propaganda" in ways that would impress us, but the idea that we can reach out and send messages to that part of the world has come up in a lot of recent conferences and debates...

A lot of people say that the "New Atheists" are wasting their time, preaching to the choir... well I'm seeing that hardcore Islamists have been converted by watching Sam Harris on youtube... and that "Agent Storm" guy was worn down and typed "contradictions in the Koran" into google and ended up working for the Americans... it's not going to happen often or easily, but reaching out, using principles of psychology to avoid the "backfire effect" can't hurt.

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Debunking-Handbook-now-freely-available-download.html

Joey, Seriously...try to rephrase this as something meaningful. We'll listen.

 

[ComfySlippers]

@Joey, (who's post I found perfectly understandable):

A quick side-track...
As a UKer who is constantly baffled by the evil grasp that religion holds in The U.S., "The Atheist Experience"* is quite interesting and gives a little hope that not all humans are as dumb as a bag of spanners and that all is not lost. A phone-in thingy, calls from both sides.

There is also a wonderful group of folk in The U.S. who have 'left' Islam and tell an interesting story about some of it's horrors. They don't run around shouting about it, for obvious reasons, but they do a good job at helping others who want to escape.
(There is an interview with them at some conference but the details escape me).

*Has been going for about twenty years. Based in Austin, Texas. Started off on your funny PBS thingy, now broadcasting on that and the intertubes live every Sunday. Entire back catalogue available on YouTube.

 

[Roger Ramjets]

He's a decent human being, but sadly, a complete loon. Recently said that the US and the UK are the greatest forces of evil on the planet.

A loon indeed. The UK can't hold a candle to the US when it comes to being the greatest force of evil.

 

[malbec]

Given such present technologies as the developing ability to photograph discussions after they have occurred ( correctly worded )
---- I suspect that OBL was just running through a standard security procedure .
I wonder what his thoughts were on Remote Viewing ?
Which is all fantasy for me as I am persuaded he actually died in December /January in 2001/2.

 

[Cosmic Yak]

Given such present technologies as the developing ability to photograph discussions after they have occurred ( correctly worded )
---- I suspect that OBL was just running through a standard security procedure .

I confess myself baffled by this. Could you please clarify?

I wonder what his thoughts were on Remote Viewing ?
Which is all fantasy for me as I am persuaded he actually died in December /January in 2001/2.

Granted this is your personal opinion, but what evidence led you to such a conclusion?

 

[MicahJava]

“My dear wife,” he began. “I was told that you went to a dentist in Iran, and you were concerned about a filling she put in for you. Please let me know in detail … any suspicions that any of the brothers may have about chips planted in any way.”

http://lethbridgeherald.com/news/wo...-worried-wife-had-tracking-device-in-filling/

Jesus *********** Christ.

Terrorists are so full of conspiracy theories they make Alex Jones look like Dan Rather. Recently an ISIS groupie was caught before he shot up a Freemason's hall. Most jihadists are convinced that there is a US-Jewish plot to destroy Islam. bin Laden read Noam Chomsky. The list goes on and on. So think about that the next time you spend some "quality time" trying to debunk a conspiracy theorist on the internet. They probably aren't going to shoot up a freemason's hall. But there are people who will. So if you really want to be a debunker, maybe we should be targeting the followers of the world's greatest evil at the moment.

The microchips they put in dogs are the size of a grain of rice. Not saying this can be a real thing, but there is a patent for a GPS tooth filling device: https://www.google.com/patents/US20090237236 Who knows?

 

[Jules Galen]

@Joey, (who's post I found perfectly understandable):

A quick side-track... As a UKer who is constantly baffled by the evil grasp that religion holds in The U.S., "The Atheist Experience"* is quite interesting and gives a little hope that not all humans are as dumb as a bag of spanners and that all is not lost. A phone-in thingy, calls from both sides.
There is also a wonderful group of folk in The U.S. who have 'left' Islam and tell an interesting story about some of it's horrors. They don't run around shouting about it, for obvious reasons, but they do a good job at helping others who want to escape.
(There is an interview with them at some conference but the details escape me).

*Has been going for about twenty years. Based in Austin, Texas. Started off on your funny PBS thingy, now broadcasting on that and the intertubes live every Sunday. Entire back catalogue available on YouTube.

Yeah...those guys at the Atheist Experience are about as good as it gets. I have never seen such a small group accomplish so much with so little.

Don't get me wrong, guys like the "Four Horsemen" broke a lot of new ground and I appreciate the magnitude of what they did, but these guys at the Atheist Experience gone on for about 20 years slowly, and corrosively destroying the spell of religion on a lot of people - and teaching others how to do it in the process! So, while Groups like the "Four Horsemen" break new ground, these guys (Atheist Experience) are changing the way by which de-programming is done and sharing it with the world.