Nothing provokes the giggles more than reading Machiavelli play the race card in this. He plays the race card under a thinly veiled anti-Americanism. I know something of anti-Americanism since I live in a country which has that as its second favourite national pasttime after hockey.
You may not believe this, but I don't have anti-Americanism as pastime.
Yes I know Canadians often do have a vocal anti-USA attitude. Once I had a canadian neighbour who used to complain about the USA and their "imperialism" every other day.
As much as I wouldn't consider myself as specifically anti-American, I wouldn't call myself anti-Russian. However, I am also conscious that countries are in fact imperialist bullies, they are not moral players, and people are victimized and oppressed by self-righteous powers who cause perpetration of injustice through various brutal methods. Those powers also usually maintain a narrative of lies favourable to their own agenda.
This has not much to do with the particular state or country, doesn't depend on nationality, doesn't have to do with name of the country who commits the crimes.
Nonetheless, false narratives and self-righteousness is what outrages me. When I think at United Stetes, I associate's things Pinochet's golpe in Chile organized by Henry Kissinger, and I think about many young people of Italian descent who were thrown into the ocean. I think the US justice system is crap and I'm afraid it's a profoundly unjust society where 1% of population possesses 60% of richness, and in general I perceive American society as culturally and legally primitive, not the best place for me to live in. But being bullies on an international theotre is not a peculiarity of the USA. I am sure Italy (or similar countries lie France) did commit their crimes and swept them under idle narratives like any other power. Imperialism of bullies also is susually met by equally repugnant servility from their "victim" countries, which is even more outrageous to me. Yet I am not ready to accept that people are thown into the ocean and nobody brings justice to them, and I am not going to say "yes" to imperialism, false narratives and servility: it's not my nature.
So the question of anti-Americanism makes little sense to me. But the contempt of sovereignity, lack of understanding and indifference Americans have shown with respect to justice and point of view of foreign people, has objectively a long list of records.
It's why I continually invite Mach. out for dinner, because we'd have a lot to talk about.
You have a problem with acknowledging facts.
Yet here's the thing - Nowhere does Mach or others reveal how little they have to convict two innocents when they have to play the race card. Like with QG, it is used as a cover for otherwise an unconvincing case. Please remember, the case is now definitively acquitted against AK and RS; so, really, what else does Mach have?
This is called a petitio-principii.
Here's another deal that has plagued the world of guilterdom since the beginning - at least the more vocal of guilters. Imagine this - being able to look at one picture - one! - and discern the prejudicial habits of those within. That is an astonishing ability to possess. Other guilters from well-known, former websites discerned that AK was the guiilty one simply by looking at one - one! - picture of her, and it has been confirmation bias ever since.
This is not an astonishing ability of guilters, but rather, it is a yardstick of the untruthfulness of the pro-Knox supporters. Do you remember? It was YOU who used to claimed that I asserted to have become convinced of Knox's guilt after looking at her photograph? This was YOUR straw man. You don't really remember? You went on possibly many months believing this story you made up yourself.
You used to say "Machiavelli believes Knox's guilt since he saw her photogralh". It's all made up by you.
On the other hand, the degree by which the pro-Knox were ready to cutt off slack, downplay and deny before the evidence that Knox was a liar, is telling of everything.
The fact that Knox's "friends" reunion is only made of whites is not something I am making up. It's a matter of fact. And that qualifies it - statistically - as a racial group. Simply the pro-Knox PR machine appears to be racially targeted. You won't be able to bring evidence that the non-white population has an equal representation among the pro-Knox supporters.
Speaking of confirmation bias - Mach once accused the whole City of Seattle as practising the Mafia code of Omertà, the discipline of silence in relation to a member of their group - as it relates to Amanda Knox. All of Seattle. Including (presumably) ALL racial groups within the body-politic there; despite the racist leadership of the FOA, total silence by every citizen of the city.
And where do you pick up this from, now? Tell me please, where did I write "the whole" City of Seattle?
You are making it up, again.
The truth is I never said that.
(or quote the line where I say "whole" etc., thanks).
As an aside, Machiavelli did not lose to America, as much as I, too, would want to go off on an anti-American tangent. Machiavelli lost to Section 5 of Cassazione. It's now over. Private citizens even went into a Florence court to try to rehabilitate that agenda that Section 5 was corrupt; Andrea Vogt covered that one. And that one lost, too......
Sorry, don't be senseless. That makes really no sense. Florence public prosecution office dos
not have jurisdiction on Section 5 of Cassazione.
That would require a denounciation to the Rome prosecution office.
(your assertions about what is "lost" are again things you are making up yourself).
What's left is venting on obscure websites half-way around the world. Mach's response to that is to claim his not interested in debating at home. We now know the reason why. He's tried and lost; to his own courts.
As always, you only guess and rationalize without evidence. This is nothing but dietrology. It is fallacious: you try to "deduce" things you don't know about reality out of alleged things about the poster or third person which you also have no evidence about.
You always played this game. Your nature is repelled by the idea of talking about something directly or honestly, without rebouncing through manipulation and insinuation about alleged words, actions or motivations of someone else you speculate about. It's like when you used to say "Nencini belives females have Y chromosomes", based on (among other things) your erroneous assumption that he would agree with Vecchiotti, something you derived from changing his words in another statement.
Knox was acquitted of defamation brought by some of the PLE.
No. It was not a defamation charge. It was a calunnia charge.
And she is acquitted by now only on first instance (we don't know the grounds; it might even be only on points of law, because calunnia is a charge quite different from defamation).
Maybe Mach can bring us up to speed on how Mignini's suit against Gumbel/Sollecito is going?
I suppose very well. Mignini will win.
Mignini didn't even bother coming to court the first time with an Italian translation of the offending sections of "Honor Bound", like always, Mignini simply expected to be believed on his own say-so - we don't need no stinking evidence!
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But this case was (eventually) solved by Italians in Italy.
Judge Hellmann said in an interview: "the case will remain unsolved".
Courts found Guede was not holding the murder weapon, the break in was staged, and Knox is definitively acquitted of perverting justice by falsely accusing an innocent.
Bruno/Marasca said Knox was there and heared Meredith's scream, emphasized there are multiple murderers, and pointed out no way the Knox's calunnia against Lumumba could be forced or involuntary and no way she could change something at ECHR. Also found that she washed her hands of Meredith's blood, that she did so while trying to erase evidence (if not while killing).
What Italians wrote include Chieffi which makes points of law that are definitive and valid. This is the state of facts in Italy.
My read of the convicting judges (part of Massei osted above) is that this horrible murder had nothing to do with race. Massei personalized the tragedy around Rudy's urges, his as a person NOT as part of a racial group.
My reading of what Hellmann writes, is that Guede could not hang around with Sollecito and Knox because they are "good fellows" while he is "different".
