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Hillary Clinton is Done

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It's interesting that certain posters here, and BLM, apparently believe that all Black Kids are gangs without a conscience, or empathy, and yet it is Hillary that is the racist.
 
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Dog Town said:
And now you ...
What is it they say about the shoe?
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Have you actually bothered to to read what was said or just going on fuax outrage?

“They are not just gangs of kids anymore, they are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘super-predators.’ No conscience, no empathy.
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She not talking about bringing Urban black kids to heel, not even all gang-bangers, she's talking about a subset of gang members who are violent criminals without conscience or empathy.

If you want to identify with that description, great for you, but to say she is talking about all Black Kids, or all Urban Black kids is so wrong it's not even close to wrong, unless you are also claiming that all said kids fit the group she was talking about, gang members who are without conscience or empathy.

If you think that saying that such violent criminals should be brought to heel is racist, well... not much I can do for you there.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Have you actually bothered to to read what was said or just going on fuax outrage?



She not talking about bringing Urban black kids to heel, not even all gang-bangers, she's talking about a subset of gang members who are violent criminals without conscience or empathy.

If you want to identify with that description, great for you, but to say she is talking about all Black Kids, or all Urban Black kids is so wrong it's not even close to wrong, unless you are also claiming that all said kids fit the group she was talking about, gang members who are without conscience or empathy.

If you think that saying that such violent criminals should be brought to heel is racist, well... not much I can do for you there.
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I don't think rationally interpreting Clinton's actual words matter much. For the cons, this is something they can pull up in the future when one of their people says something actually racist because they are actually racist. They do like their false equivalency, after all. For the Sanders fans, this is a talking point designed to help Bernie in the demographics where he's having trouble, namely non-white voters. This is all politicking, and rationality has no bearing. It's about getting it stuck in people's heads, much like "BENGHAZI!!!1!"
 
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PhantomWolf said:
It's interesting that certain posters here, and BLM, apparently believe that all Black Kids are gangs without a conscience, or empathy, and yet it is Hillary that is the racist.
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That is certainly an interesting straw man. No one ever said that Hillary's incredibly racist comment was directed at all black kids. Just the ones she mentioned.

Interesting that you made that ******** up to defend overt racist Hillary.
 
Roger Ramjets said:
Funny how now you think that BLM are worth listening to. Yet previously,

What changed your mind?
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Wow, I actually hit the link to my post and figured that you had simply linked the wrong post. It took me a couple seconds to realize that you had edited the living **** out of my actual post.

That was Hillary level sleazy.
 
PhantomWolf said:
It's interesting that certain posters here, and BLM, apparently believe that all Black Kids are gangs without a conscience, or empathy, and yet it is Hillary that is the racist.
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I am certain that is the case just as much as I believe you are certain that silly scenario actually exists.
 
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That is certainly an interesting straw man. No one ever said that Hillary's incredibly racist comment was directed at all black kids. Just the ones she mentioned.

Interesting that you made that ******** up to defend overt racist Hillary.
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How is it racist to say that violent gang members without a conscience, or empathy need to be brought to heel? Feel free to explain
 
PhantomWolf said:
How is it racist to say that violent gang members without a conscience, or empathy need to be brought to heel? Feel free to explain
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Maybe...you should ask the BLM representatives who have asked that question?
Or continue to be racist?
Your choice!
 
Tsukasa Buddha said:
I am certain that is the case just as much as I believe you are certain that silly scenario actually exists.
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Except that it is what is being said...

Even when heckled by the mostly white crowd at a $500-per-plate campaign fundraiser dinner in conservative South Carolina, Williams held her ground. She faced down an evasive Clinton, demanding an explanation for racist remarks the former First Lady made in 1996, where she referred to inner-city, black youth as “super-predators” with “no conscience” and “no empathy.” “We need to bring them to heel” she explained.
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No, she stated that there were members in gangs that were termed super predators, that had no conscience or empathy. We know these people exist, we call then sociopaths today. Back then someone coined the term "Super predator" for when groups of young sociopaths formed gangs and preyed on people. No where did she say that all urban black youth were in this group, it is those that have manufactured the offence that are claiming that the remark was aimed at all inner-city, black youth, or that it was at "our boys".

And I'll add this. Is there any evidence that such terms would not have been used about gangs of young white sociopaths, or gangs of Hispanic ones, or Chinese ones, or, I am sure you get the idea.
 
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Except that it is what is being said...



No, she stated that there were members in gangs that were termed super predators, that had no conscience or empathy. We know these people exist, we call then sociopaths today. Back then someone coined the term "Super predator" for when groups of young sociopaths formed gangs and preyed on people. No where did she say that all urban black youth were in this group, it is those that have manufactured the offence that are claiming that the remark was aimed at all inner-city, black youth, or that it was at "our boys".

And I'll add this. Is there any evidence that such terms would not have been used about gangs of young white sociopaths, or gangs of Hispanic ones, or Chinese ones, or, I am sure you get the idea.
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Right, she referred to gang members who were inner city black youth with outrageous and dehumanising terms. She was whipping up the fervor against the "new" menace facing society. You are the one imagining the term "all" in this discussion.

"We call them sociopaths today" makes me snicker. How long ago do you think the 90s were? Sociopathy wasn't the target, it was a layer of smear to dehumanise.

Not only was this all horrible, it was horribly incorrect:

Xavier McElrath-Bey, who grew up amid extreme poverty, abuse, and neglect, and was sentenced to 25 years in prison at the age of 13 for a gang-related murder on Chicago’s South Side, told a conference in Dallas that children like him had been pathologized as intrinsically bad. “We’ve come from a generation that they were saying were ‘superpredators,’” he said. “They said that we were incorrigible, that we were beyond repair. They stated that we were godless, fatherless, heartless monsters. These were professors and researchers who fed the media the hype of an impending flood of juvenile crime that never actually occurred.”
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Linky.

Youth violence has been on a long decline.

This is all racial fear mongering to further mass incarceration.
 
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