Continuation Part 20: Amanda Knox/Raffaele Sollecito

[Vixen]

So that's how Amanda got off.

It wasn't the Mafia, it was because she's the head of a Mexican drug cartel.

I've got it now.

It constantly astonishes me that people do not equate their actions with the end result. For example, they'll express horror at battery hens who spend their lives in a cramped cage, but then they'll go out and buy non-free range eggs.

What you have to understand Mr Fied, if a person buys cocaine they are indeed supporting the Mexican drug cartels.

Why is it so hard to make the connection Personal = Political.

 

[Mr Fied]

It constantly astonishes me that people do not equate their actions with the end result. For example, they'll express horror at battery hens who spend their lives in a cramped cage, but then they'll go out and buy non-free range eggs.

What you have to understand Mr Fied, if a person buys cocaine they are indeed supporting the Mexican drug cartels.

Why is it so hard to make the connection Personal = Political.

Amanda and Raffaelle are innocent. There was no evidence, they were found not guilty.

Why is it so hard to make the connection?

 

[Vixen]

You've hurt no one's feelings. You've made libellous comments. They both passed drug tests administered by police and were exonerated of the charges.

You are the only one presently in harm's way.

Come off it, Bill. All that hot air! The pair were stoned out of their boxes by their own account.

If Amanda is to be believed, why, the dope was soooooooo strong, it caused her a complete blackout of memory of what happened that night! It took a nun in the prison to bring her to the realisation, "I was asleep when the murder happened!"

Medical history.

 

[Vixen]

Amanda and Raffaelle are innocent. There was no evidence, they were found not guilty.

Why is it so hard to make the connection?

Bruno and Marasca decreed that Amanda and Raff are strangers to innocence.

The case was dropped because of "a flawed investigation" and the media.

 

[Vixen]

....and of course old man Solecito took Guede for a shoe fitting before planting the shoe box. Imagine planting the wrong size shoe box?

They did. The original print was measured at size 42.

 

[Mr Fied]

Bruno and Marasca decreed that Amanda and Raff are strangers to innocence.

The case was dropped because of "a flawed investigation" and the media.

Bollocks.

There was no credible evidence.

everything the prosecution put forward was a sham.

The only thing flawed with the investigation was that it was a complete cock up from the beginning.

 

[acbytesla]

It constantly astonishes me that people do not equate their actions with the end result. For example, they'll express horror at battery hens who spend their lives in a cramped cage, but then they'll go out and buy non-free range eggs.

What you have to understand Mr Fied, if a person buys cocaine they are indeed supporting the Mexican drug cartels.

Why is it so hard to make the connection Personal = Political.

It constantly astonished me that people equate a result to actions that are unrelated.

You talk like you have some knowledge of the law but you ignore it's principles. One of which is forseeability. Would it be forseeable to a reasonable person that a specific action would culminate in a specific result?

You also are suggesting merely through loose association that Amanda took cocaine. A suggestion that could not be made in a US courtroom as that is all you have. You would be reprimanded for suggesting this.

 

[acbytesla]

Bruno and Marasca decreed that Amanda and Raff are strangers to innocence.

The case was dropped because of "a flawed investigation" and the media.

You think if you post this crap a thousand times, that one day it might not be false?

 

[Bill Williams]

Come off it, Bill. All that hot air! The pair were stoned out of their boxes by their own account.

If Amanda is to be believed, why, the dope was soooooooo strong, it caused her a complete blackout of memory of what happened that night! It took a nun in the prison to bring her to the realisation, "I was asleep when the murder happened!"

Medical history.

One of the main reasons why it is hard to believe your posts, is that you're all over the map. Use the littl arrow sign beside the person being quoted, and you'll find you said this.....

To the extent Rudy Amanda and Raff indulged in some adulterated mind-bending drugs that night, and the stolen €300 rent no doubt has a druggie connection, (both Raff and Amanda vowed to give up drugs after the murder), it could be chasing wild geese to speculate anyone else was there.​

No one has claimed a "complete blackout memory," except for guilters trying to introduce strawman arguments. To repeat (something you neve address) Amanda and Raffaele were tested for drugs at their arrest and the tests were negative. Yet you continue with the lie.

At interrogation when Amanda related what she was doing the night of the murder she was hit and called a liar.

You continually ignore the actions of the police in inducing the false stories which made it into the memorale. You just make things up, rely on strawman version of events claimed by no one, embellished reports and lies.

It most certainly did not require the nun to convince Amanda of the story, it was the story Amanda took into interrogation, the one from which police said, "Knox buckled and told us what we already knew."

Slut-shaming and strawman arguments describe your posts. You are not interested in the truth.

 

[acbytesla]

One of the main reasons why it is hard to believe your posts, is that you're all over the map. Use the littl arrow sign beside the person being quoted, and you'll find you said this.....

To the extent Rudy Amanda and Raff indulged in some adulterated mind-bending drugs that night, and the stolen €300 rent no doubt has a druggie connection, (both Raff and Amanda vowed to give up drugs after the murder), it could be chasing wild geese to speculate anyone else was there.​

No one has claimed a "complete blackout memory," except for guilters trying to introduce strawman arguments. To repeat (something you neve address) Amanda and Raffaele were tested for drugs at their arrest and the tests were negative. Yet you continue with the lie.

At interrogation when Amanda related what she was doing the night of the murder she was hit and called a liar.

You continually ignore the actions of the police in inducing the false stories which made it into the memorale. You just make things up, rely on strawman version of events claimed by no one, embellished reports and lies.

It most certainly did not require the nun to convince Amanda of the story, it was the story Amanda took into interrogation, the one from which police said, "Knox buckled and told us what we already knew."

Slut-shaming and strawman arguments describe your posts. You are not interested in the truth.

Never mind that they remembered what happend that night for days. Vixen goes around and round with posting falsehoods. Whoops!

 

[Vixen]

And neither did Amanda's casual use of cannabis lead to one either. Post hoc, ergo propter hoc. Fallacious link my friend. It's irrelevant.

I find it amusing that you say Curatolo's daily heroin use didn't effect his faculties, vision or recall, yet you insinuate that Amanda's light use of cannabis turned her into a crazed homicidal killer.

Hmm mm .

You are the one who has cause and effect confused. Amanda claimed smoking a joint was what caused her to completely forget what she had been doing the evening before.

It is a fact she slept with a known syndicate drug dealer who supplied cocaine, Federico Martini.

Kokomani made a sworn deposition he chanced upon her and her chums absolutely drugged out of their minds just outside the cottage. Objective data proves Kokomani was there when he said he was.

Taking drugs does not make one a "crazed homicidal killer". However, in the hands of someone with a reckless sociopathic personality syndrome and a burning rage to wreak revenge for a perceived hurt, they are extremely dangerous, in that they disinhibit that unhinged person. When you have three people together in a drug-induced fantasy world, for example in the Manson Family, there are no depths too low to which an amoral person will sink.

In addition, to this, there is the effect of mixing with a low-life druggie community. By consorting with Federico and co, Amanda put herself in the company of criminals and ne'er-do-wells.

It is so true you can judge a person by the company they keep.

 

[Bill Williams]

You are the one who has cause and effect confused. Amanda claimed smoking a joint was what caused her to completely forget what she had been doing the evening before.

Ah, er, no. Knox did not think she was "misremembering" until the translator at interrogation told Knox that she was forgetting, and the the reason was the trauma of the murder.

It is a fact she slept with a known syndicate drug dealer who supplied cocaine, Federico Martini.

Ah, er, no.

Kokomani made a sworn deposition he chanced upon her and her chums absolutely drugged out of their minds just outside the cottage. Objective data proves Kokomani was there when he said he was.

Kokomani also said he saw Knox in Italy weeks before she got there.

Taking drugs does not make one a "crazed homicidal killer". However, in the hands of someone with a reckless sociopathic personality syndrome and a burning rage to wreak revenge for a perceived hurt, they are extremely dangerous, in that they disinhibit that unhinged person. When you have three people together in a drug-induced fantasy world, for example in the Manson Family, there are no depths too low to which an amoral person will sink.

You are libelling again. None of what you're suggesting was entertained by any court, even the convicting ones. You are simply making things up - again.

In addition, to this, there is the effect of mixing with a low-life druggie community. By consorting with Federico and co, Amanda put herself in the company of criminals and ne'er-do-wells.

It is so true you can judge a person by the company they keep.

By this standard you are shaming Meredith as well, who was tending to her boyfriend's marijuana plants the weekend of the murder.

You need to stop.

 

[Vixen]

One of the main reasons why it is hard to believe your posts, is that you're all over the map. Use the littl arrow sign beside the person being quoted, and you'll find you said this.....

To the extent Rudy Amanda and Raff indulged in some adulterated mind-bending drugs that night, and the stolen €300 rent no doubt has a druggie connection, (both Raff and Amanda vowed to give up drugs after the murder), it could be chasing wild geese to speculate anyone else was there.​

No one has claimed a "complete blackout memory," except for guilters trying to introduce strawman arguments. To repeat (something you neve address) Amanda and Raffaele were tested for drugs at their arrest and the tests were negative. Yet you continue with the lie.

At interrogation when Amanda related what she was doing the night of the murder she was hit and called a liar.

You continually ignore the actions of the police in inducing the false stories which made it into the memorale. You just make things up, rely on strawman version of events claimed by no one, embellished reports and lies.

It most certainly did not require the nun to convince Amanda of the story, it was the story Amanda took into interrogation, the one from which police said, "Knox buckled and told us what we already knew."

Slut-shaming and strawman arguments describe your posts. You are not interested in the truth.

Police tested the pair too early for it to show in their hair. Police reported Amanda had the characteristic cat piss smell of a cocaine or crystal meth user. (So much for her claim of taking three showers within 36 hours.) These are police who recognise drug smells. Perugia was swimming in drugs.

In Amanda's own words:

 

[Vixen]

Never mind that they remembered what happend that night for days. Vixen goes around and round with posting falsehoods. Whoops!

It is recorded in Amanda's court testimony that she had amnesia. Her own words.

 

[acbytesla]

It is recorded in Amanda's court testimony that she had amnesia. Her own words.

More falsehoods.

 

[bagels]

More falsehoods.

acbytesla will a cell phone stay connected to a tower its already connected to if it has no reason to change? Or will it always switch to the strongest tower?

 

[Bill Williams]

Police tested the pair too early for it to show in their hair. Police reported Amanda had the characteristic cat piss smell of a cocaine or crystal meth user. (So much for her claim of taking three showers within 36 hours.) These are police who recognise drug smells. Perugia was swimming in drugs.

LOL! You spin out the falsehoods at such a fast rate, you cannot think straight.

If:

- Perugia was swimming in drugs
- The police tested the pair too early​

Then Neither Amanda nor Raffaele could have been swimming in the pool of drugs you formerly claimed they were!

Do you ever listen to yourself?

 

[acbytesla]

You are the one who has cause and effect confused. Amanda claimed smoking a joint was what caused her to completely forget what she had been doing the evening before.

It is a fact she slept with a known syndicate drug dealer who supplied cocaine, Federico Martini.

Kokomani made a sworn deposition he chanced upon her and her chums absolutely drugged out of their minds just outside the cottage. Objective data proves Kokomani was there when he said he was.

Taking drugs does not make one a "crazed homicidal killer". However, in the hands of someone with a reckless sociopathic personality syndrome and a burning rage to wreak revenge for a perceived hurt, they are extremely dangerous, in that they disinhibit that unhinged person. When you have three people together in a drug-induced fantasy world, for example in the Manson Family, there are no depths too low to which an amoral person will sink.

In addition, to this, there is the effect of mixing with a low-life druggie community. By consorting with Federico and co, Amanda put herself in the company of criminals and ne'er-do-wells.

It is so true you can judge a person by the company they keep.

Edited by Agatha: 

Edited to remove breach of rule 0 and rule 12

Half of this is TOTALLY false and the othe half is nonsense.

When I attended college I associated with drug dealers, pot smokers, alcoholics, coca in dealers, etc. Half of them were fellow students.
According to the US Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration 117 million people over the age of 12 consumed cannabis in their lifetime. This is about 40 percent of Americans. The highest Marijuana usage was between 17 and 25
37 million Americans had tried cocaine in their lifetime. 4.6 million in the last year.

Considering that both these drugs are quite prevalent, and illegal, (47 States). it's more than reasonable that at least half of us associate with drug dealers whether we know it or not.

 

[Mike1711]

They did. The original print was measured at size 42.

Mr Solecito senior went for a shoe fitting with Guede?

Ok, got it now.

 

[Samzilla]

Kokomani also said he saw Knox in Italy weeks before she got there.

Don't forget she was gap-toothed when he "saw" her.