RE: clintonemails.com: Who is Eric Hoteham?

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16.5 said:
In a major victory for transparency, a federal judge on Thursday ordered the State Department to release former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's emails prior to the Democratic primary and caucus remaining this month.

That is written by Jason Leopold, the plaintiff in the FOIA action. Good read.
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It is. This part is particularly rich:
However, late Wednesday, a top State Department official said in a sworn declaration that the agency has made "significant progress" in its review of the remaining Clinton emails due to "changed circumstances" and could now begin releasing a portion of the remaining emails — about 7,500 — on Saturday, February 13. But the official, Eric Stein, the deputy assistant secretary for global information services, said the vast majority of the emails would not be released until the end of the month because of a lengthy review process.
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Note that the FOIA application was filed in November 2014. You'd think the State Dept. had enough staff to go thoiugh 7500 emails in 16 months. Or maybe we can just ask the Chinese, or Russians, or our new friends the Iranians, who no doubt have had these emails all along...
 
Foolmewunz said:
Should I turn myself in? That's my SMS conversation with my wife, yesterday. Seems about as hush-hush sooper dooper classified as Hill asking her aide about when she gets back to the Hamptons, right?
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Under the current guidelines, travel itineraries shall not cross the .gov and .com world as that would constitute doing government work on a private system. Oh, you can have the 3rd party booking system email your private account the itinerary, but sending from the .gov to the .com would be a breach of protocol.

Violations will vary by agency, but a low level one like this would be between a stern talking to and / or a suspension without pay for 1 to 3 days.
 
16.5 said:
Update from the State Department regarding why they failed to comply with the Judge's disclosure order:

http://www.politico.com/blogs/under...-details-clinton-email-release-foul-up-219236

All because of Hillary's sneering contempt for governmental transparacy desire for "convenience"
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I like the Catch-22 nature of the State Department's attempt to cover for Clinton:

"Nothing to see here. Move along. But we can't comply with the court order to produce the email before the primaries because we need time to remove all the sensitive information."
 
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KwamiFabu said:
It is. This part is particularly rich:
Note that the FOIA application was filed in November 2014. You'd think the State Dept. had enough staff to go thoiugh 7500 emails in 16 months. Or maybe we can just ask the Chinese, or Russians, or our new friends the Iranians, who no doubt have had these emails all along...
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No doubt ....

http://www.cnn.com/2015/03/10/politics/state-department-hack-worst-ever/

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Last November, the State Department shut down its email system over a weekend to try to improve security and block the intruders.

At the time, the agency tried to send a re-assuring message that "activity of concern" by possible hackers only affected its unclassified email system.
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16.5 said:
Over 1666 Clinton Emails Contained Classified Material

/The number of the Beast...
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How many were:

"What time do I get back to the Hamptons" in nature?

Previously not classified?


You could list them for us. That'd keep you busy while waiting for the next right wing press release.
 
Foolmewunz said:
How many were:

"What time do I get back to the Hamptons" in nature?

Previously not classified?


You could list them for us. That'd keep you busy while waiting for the next right wing press release.
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I'm sure it was not your intention to mention just the ones with the lowest classification that may have been over classified and ignore the ones that were Top Secret/SAP. The "vast right wing conspiracy" just keeps growing and growing and now the State Department is a part of it. I guess pretty soon the FBI will be a part of it too. :rolleyes:
 
Reheat said:
I'm sure it was not your intention to mention just the ones with the lowest classification that may have been over classified and ignore the ones that were Top Secret/SAP. The "vast right wing conspiracy" just keeps growing and growing and now the State Department is a part of it. I guess pretty soon the FBI will be a part of it too. :rolleyes:
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When 16.5 is impressed by the amounts, is it not fair to bring up the cases that make up the vast majority of those numbers?
 
wareyin said:
When 16.5 is impressed by the amounts, is it not fair to bring up the cases that make up the vast majority of those numbers?
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Could you please list all of the emails by classification level? I'm not at all sure I know what they are or the contents.

I'm not at all sure he is impressed by the amount at all, he was obviously making a joke.

I'm sure you don't know that the confidential ones are not really very important in the vast scheme of things. That's where an over classification sometimes exists. It doesn't usually exist at the higher levels specifically at Top Secret/SAP. At any rate, one is enough to constitute indictment material.
 
Reheat said:
Could you please list all of the emails by classification level? I'm not at all sure I know what they are or the contents.

I'm not at all sure he is impressed by the amount at all, he was obviously making a joke.

I'm sure you don't know that the confidential ones are not really very important in the vast scheme of things. That's where an over classification sometimes exists. It doesn't usually exist at the higher levels specifically at Top Secret/SAP. At any rate, one is enough to constitute indictment material.
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We have certainly seen examples of over classification. Just look at all the hay made of the "Top Secret" New York Times drone article that was forwarded to Clinton. But, the CIA classifies all drone info as SAP, so it was born Classified, according to some, and enough to convict, according to a few.

Eta: the claim has been made in this thread that out of that 1666 that 16.5 claims, 22 were Top Secret, if you were honestly questioning whether the vast majority were over classified or "when will I get to the Hamptons" secret.
 
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Reheat said:
Could you please list all of the emails by classification level? I'm not at all sure I know what they are or the contents.

I'm not at all sure he is impressed by the amount at all, he was obviously making a joke.

I'm sure you don't know that the confidential ones are not really very important in the vast scheme of things. That's where an over classification sometimes exists. It doesn't usually exist at the higher levels specifically at Top Secret/SAP. At any rate, one is enough to constitute indictment material.
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ask them about the 2 classified emails they found in Powell's emails. Shillaries about soiled themselves when they heard that. 1660 plus on Hillary's hombrew server, including Top Secret? NBD
 
Reheat said:
Could you please list all of the emails by classification level? I'm not at all sure I know what they are or the contents.

I'm not at all sure he is impressed by the amount at all, he was obviously making a joke.

I'm sure you don't know that the confidential ones are not really very important in the vast scheme of things. That's where an over classification sometimes exists. It doesn't usually exist at the higher levels specifically at Top Secret/SAP. At any rate, one is enough to constitute indictment material.
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So when do you predict she will be indicted ?

Or are you with the rest of the people in this thread who refuse to actually say that you think she will be indicted ?

Based on what we know so far, my guess is she won't be. You ?

And as far as classification, this has already been posted:
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/06/u...p-secret-in-hillary-clintons-emails.html?_r=0

And as far as TS/SAP :rolleyes:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/officials-new-top-secret-clinton-emails-innocuous-n500586

The classified material included in the latest batch of Hillary Clinton emails flagged by an internal watchdog involved discussions of CIA drone strikes, which are among the worst kept secrets in Washington, senior U.S. officials briefed on the matter tell NBC News.

The officials say the emails included relatively "innocuous" conversations by State Department officials about the CIA drone program, which technically is considered a "Special Access Program" because officials are briefed on it only if they have a "need to know." As a legal matter, the U.S. government does not acknowledge that the CIA kills militants with drones. The fact that the CIA conducts drone strikes in Pakistan and Yemen, however, has long been known. Senior officials, including Sen. Dianne Feinstein and former CIA Director Leon Panetta, have publicly discussed CIA drones.

SECAT ASTRONOMY :(
 
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