Evolution of humans solved by Shane Warne

[Gawdzilla Sama]

As it should be, since humans aren't animals by definition.

Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Suborder: Haplorhini
Family: Hominidae
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

 

[sphenisc]

Didn't read the link, did you?

Or are you trying to be humorous?

Yes I did. Are you trying to argue against my point or for it?

 

[Slowvehicle]

Humans are not animals by definition they are animals by classification.

In what way is a "classification" (within a system designed by humans) not a "definition" (within a language developed by humans)?

 

[Ladewig]

The evolution of man from ape like creatures is one of the most effective lies told in all of history. No proof exists for this, only speculation as wild as that in the OP.

Welcome to the forum.

 

[tsig]

The evolution of man from ape like creatures is one of the most effective lies told in all of history. No proof exists for this, only speculation as wild as that in the OP.

I think the winner there is god died for you.

 

[MikeG]

Yes I did. Are you trying to argue against my point or for it?

Demonstrate that you have a point and we can start a conversation, until then, we're getting just a serious of aimless one-liners.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Yes I did. Are you trying to argue against my point or for it?

I think you're both trying to demonstrate the fallacy of equivocation. Nice job, by the way, it's a splendid example.

Dave

 

[sootywooty31]

This makes no sense whatsoever, as there would have to be evolutionary stages along the way as each species evolved "from nothing". If you can accept evolution why do you reject the 'common ancestor' idea?

Well no one was here to view any gradual slow changes and as well there are many gaps in evolution and also many ice ages and geological catastrophes have occured.

As well if the big bang came from nothing depending on ones view point of course, why cant evolutionary stages occur the same somehow.

Ok i agree there are certain small adaptive changes as some proof for changes prevalent in the current data we view, but again is very loose evidence and factor analyse needs to be viewed from a complete historical angle which we are unable to perform completely i feel.

 

[Slowvehicle]

Yes I did. Are you trying to argue against my point or for it?

Actually, neither, insofar as it is unclear what "point" your argument supports.

I am simply pointing out that humans are, in fact, by classification and by definition, "animals; members of the animal kingdom.

Animalia → Chordata → Mammalia → Primata → Hominidae → Homo sapiens

 

[Lothian]

In what way is a "classification" (within a system designed by humans) not a "definition" (within a language developed by humans)?

I don't know, I just wondered if that was the direction Sphenisc was going.

 

[Slowvehicle]

Well no one was here to view any gradual slow changes and as well there are many gaps in evolution and also many ice ages and geological catastrophes have occured.

As well if the big bang came from nothing depending on ones view point of course, why cant evolutionary stages occur the same somehow.

Ok i agree there are certain small adaptive changes as some proof for changes prevalent in the current data we view, but again is very loose evidence and factor analyse needs to be viewed from a complete historical angle which we are unable to perform completely i feel.

You would profit much from reading. Enjoy!

 

[Slowvehicle]

I don't know, I just wondered if that was the direction Sphensic was going.

Nor is it yet clear...

 

[Lothian]

Well no one was here to view any gradual slow changes and as well there are many gaps in evolution and also many ice ages and geological catastrophes have occured.

We witness gradual changes approximately 4.3 times every second. There are no gaps in evolution. It is a complete theory.

As well if the big bang came from nothing depending on ones view point of course, why cant evolutionary stages occur the same somehow.

Fairly sure the consensus is that the big bang did not come from nothing. It was a violent energy transformation. However you are suggesting that stages pop out of thin air, biblical miracle like.

Ok i agree there are certain small adaptive changes as some proof for changes prevalent in the current data we view, but again is very loose evidence and factor analyse needs to be viewed from a complete historical angle which we are unable to perform completely i feel.

You mean although we don't have all the data, the data we do have all fits the current model.

 

[Trebuchet]

What about that Eve from a rib thing? How come we've still got the same number of ribs?

I don't. When I was in the hospital there was confusion over which vertebrae I'd destroyed because I have an extra one somewhere or other.

 

[Skeptic Ginger]

has cast doubt on the theory of evolution

Unless that's the Guardian's Onion page, that reporter has a communication problem.

 

[MikeG]

Well no one was here to view god doing anything..........

FTFY

 

[sphenisc]

In what way is a "classification" (within a system designed by humans) not a "definition" (within a language developed by humans)?

"Hey Mom, there's an envelope here marked "Gas Bill", what is it?"
"It's a letter for the Gas company saying how much money we owe them."
"Where should I put it?"
"Put it in that the pile on the shelf of other bills I haven't paid yet."

 

[sphenisc]

Actually, neither, insofar as it is unclear what "point" your argument supports.

I am simply pointing out that humans are, in fact, by classification and by definition, "animals; members of the animal kingdom.

Animalia → Chordata → Mammalia → Primata → Hominidae → Homo sapiens

I'm likewise unclear how your point supports your argument - where's the definition?

 

[Slowvehicle]

"Hey Mom, there's an envelope here marked "Gas Bill", what is it?"
"It's a letter for the Gas company saying how much money we owe them."
"Where should I put it?"
"Put it in that the pile on the shelf of other bills I haven't paid yet."

...right...

"Hon, what are these here?"

"Oh, those are bills. You know, the ones I haven't paid yet."

ToMAYto, ToMAHto

Whichever stirs your coffee, human beings are, in fact, animals.

 

[sphenisc]

I don't know, I just wondered if that was the direction Sphenisc was going.

Pretty much - the additional point being that classification is done on the basis of empirical observation rather than "truth by definition".