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It's time for a Marco Rubio thread?

The sad thing is basic positions for any Republican politician pretty much have to include -doubts as to any human cause for climate change; doubts as to the scientific explanation for origins and timeline of our planet; contempt for our President. Does Marco Rubio truly believe all these things? I guess in the realpolitik sense it doesn't matter; he has to say he believes it.

But as I saw discussed on the PBS NewsHour tonight, the one thing Rubio brings to the table (that Trump and Cruz don't), is that Rubio has some support among virtually all factions of the Republican Party.
Many of the Wall Street financiers who have been mainstays of Republican “super PACs” in the six years since the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision have rallied behind Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, betting that he is the party’s best chance to win a general election battle against Hillary Clinton. link to NY Times article
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When the Des Moines Register newspaper endorsed Rubio in the Iowa Caucus the newspaper editorialized:
Recent polling shows Rubio has higher favorability ratings among independents than all candidates but Ben Carson, as well as positive ratings among Latinos. link
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newyorkguy said:
The sad thing is basic positions for any Republican politician pretty much have to include -doubts as to any human cause for climate change; doubts as to the scientific explanation for origins and timeline of our planet; contempt for our President. Does Marco Rubio truly believe all these things? I guess in the realpolitik sense it doesn't matter; he has to say he believes it.

But as I saw discussed on the PBS NewsHour tonight, the one thing Rubio brings to the table (that Trump and Cruz don't), is that Rubio has some support among virtually all factions of the Republican Party.


When the Des Moines Register newspaper endorsed Rubio in the Iowa Caucus the newspaper editorialized:
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From what i've seen of him... he's nodded further to the right since his campaign got underway and especially as his poll numbers rose. Prior to his run be struck me as closer to centrist relative to the likes or cruz, huckabee, and especially Trump. One of the reasons i tend to favor him more
 
Trebuchet said:
Returning to the actual topic of the thread, after Santorum withdrew and endorsed Rubio, he was asked which of Rubio's accomplishments he admired. He couldn't name one.
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When Santorum withdrew, he left (as he always does) santorum behind, He couldn't/wouldn't name an accomplishment of Rubio's because the one he admired was Rubio keeping/holding his santorum well.
 
The other absurd thing about Rubio trying to avoid saying the Earth is billions of years old is that he is Roman Catholic and the RCC has already said that billions of years is not incompatible with its faith.
 
I haven't looked at many sites yet but the consensus seems to be that Rubio did poorly in last night's debate. Even my wife turned to me and said "He's rehearsed too much".
 
Trebuchet said:
I haven't looked at many sites yet but the consensus seems to be that Rubio did poorly in last night's debate.
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Poorly? Are you kidding? You must have been pretty distracted. I see there's a lot of babble about his "repetition moment" on youtube from TV channels, but they only show snippets. Here's his outing as a robot in its full glory. Who wants that as a president? The guy should be finished.

 
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Trebuchet said:
I haven't looked at many sites yet but the consensus seems to be that Rubio did poorly in last night's debate. Even my wife turned to me and said "He's rehearsed too much".
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He's not up to the task of debating with the big boys like Christie.
 
Ladewig said:
The other absurd thing about Rubio trying to avoid saying the Earth is billions of years old is that he is Roman Catholic and the RCC has already said that billions of years is not incompatible with its faith.
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I don't want to derail the thread, but from what I've seen, the RCC's current position is that the age of the earth and universe should be left to science, while RCC will field questions of morals and faith. If you have a good current source from them that says otherwise, I'd be happy to check it out.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Poorly? Are you kidding? You must have been pretty distracted. I see there's a lot of babble about his "repetition moment" on youtube from TV channels, but they only show snippets. Here's his outing as a robot in its full glory. Who wants that as a president? The guy should be finished.

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He's certainly being acclaimed as the consensus loser. Doesn't seem to be a consensus winner.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Poorly? Are you kidding? You must have been pretty distracted. I see there's a lot of babble about his "repetition moment" on youtube from TV channels, but they only show snippets. Here's his outing as a robot in its full glory. Who wants that as a president? The guy should be finished.]
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You think this guy should be finished?!
All I can say in response to that charge is let's dispel once and for all with this fiction that Barack Obama doesn’t know what he’s ... Le-Le-Let's dispel once. Let's dispel.

Joking aside, I have to admit that I did not expect Rubio to respond to the charge that he is as inexperienced as Obama was by saying that he disagrees that first-term senators are filled with incompetitance because sometimes they can also be filled with malfeasance.
 
Denver said:
I don't want to derail the thread, but from what I've seen, the RCC's current position is that the age of the earth and universe should be left to science, while RCC will field questions of morals and faith.
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I don't see how the position you just outlined disagrees with what I stated: a billions-years-old-Earth Is not incompatible with the RCC's teachings about faith. Could you elaborate?

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Ladewig said:
I don't see how the position you just outlined disagrees with what I stated: a billions-years-old-Earth Is not incompatible with the RCC's teachings about faith. Could you elaborate?

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Never mind, my mistake. I read incompatible as compatible.
 
Last tracking polls for New Hampshire (yesterday plus today in the morning):

Trump 35%
Cruz and Rubio 13%

One good tracking poll shows Rubio with a 9% of vote intention by February 1st, then growing up to 15% after news about his good performance in Iowa reached the public and falling to 13% after the last debate.

As Carson doesn't exist in NH, Rubio is probably ending third or fourth.
 
As for Cruz, my wife was just looking at facebook and called me to look at a really beautiful picture!!! It's a photo of a large advertising sign mostly of Ted Cruz's face (about 4X5 feet in size). In front of the sign is a brown and black spotted dog lifting his leg and urinating at Cruz's mouth. Truly beautiful and appropriate.....Waste out/waste in!!!!


Checked, can't post to here but googling "dog urinating ted Cruz poster should bring it up!!!
 
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fuelair said:
As for Cruz, my wife was just looking at facebook and called me to look at a really beautiful picture!!! It's a photo of a large advertising sign mostly of Ted Cruz's face (about 4X5 feet in size). In front of the sign is a brown and black spotted dog lifting his leg and urinating at Cruz's mouth. Truly beautiful and appropriate.....Waste out/waste in!!!!


Checked, can't post to here but googling "dog urinating ted Cruz poster should bring it up!!!
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Shouldn't you have posted this insightful information in the Ted Cruz thread?
 
Leaving aside his recent "Stepford Candidate" moment, what was/is Rubio's appeal? He's never demonstrated any particular depth of knowledge or insight that might inspire responsible conservatives, nor has he adopted the passionate thuggery that grabs the Cruz or Trump fans. And unlike Jeb Bush, who at least compiled a serviceable record as a two-term governor, he really can't point to any significant successes. Why would he be near the top of anybody's list?
 
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