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Corbyn did win, what's next?

NWO Sentryman said:
With the Tories fracturing over Europe.........
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This seems to be just a standard phrase which everyone uses without thought. The reality may be different, however. Despite there being strongly differing views on the subject, once the referendum is over and the matter settled, I doubt there will be many repercussions within any of the parties. The supporters of the losing side will simply have to accept the result, and in much the same way as gay marriage was said to be tearing the Tories apart, the losers accept they lost and it moves into history.

I don't suppose that Cameron would be immune, however, if the vote were to be to leave. This "renegotiation" currently underway is very much his baby, and if that is rejected in a referendum he might feel his position is weak. Or he might not.
 
MikeG said:
This seems to be just a standard phrase which everyone uses without thought. The reality may be different, however. Despite there being strongly differing views on the subject, once the referendum is over and the matter settled, I doubt there will be many repercussions within any of the parties. The supporters of the losing side will simply have to accept the result, and in much the same way as gay marriage was said to be tearing the Tories apart, the losers accept they lost and it moves into history.

I don't suppose that Cameron would be immune, however, if the vote were to be to leave. This "renegotiation" currently underway is very much his baby, and if that is rejected in a referendum he might feel his position is weak. Or he might not.
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Europe is much, much more divisive within the tories than Gay Marriage, and there's a reason Cameron is hoping for a vote in June.
 
MikeG said:
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I don't suppose that Cameron would be immune, however, if the vote were to be to leave. This "renegotiation" currently underway is very much his baby, and if that is rejected in a referendum he might feel his position is weak. Or he might not.
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Remember he has said he ain't PM for the long term, he's meant to be stepping down before the next election (must have some jobs already lined up). I think his future will be determined on the outcome and when he has the referendum. I could see him - if "he wins" the referendum - stepping down at that point since it will be portrayed as a/the high point of his career.
 
Yeah, maybe. I hadn't thought of that. I don't suppose it's impossible. Either way, were your scenario to happen, one or other of the main contenders for Tory leader would be weakened by their position on the referendum campaign.
 
Darat said:
Remember he has said he ain't PM for the long term, he's meant to be stepping down before the next election (must have some jobs already lined up). I think his future will be determined on the outcome and when he has the referendum. I could see him - if "he wins" the referendum - stepping down at that point since it will be portrayed as a/the high point of his career.
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I wonder what is the Plan B for those who are opposed to Britain staying within the EU should the vote be against leaving?

I can't imagine they will just say 'Oh OK let's move on to something else then' but the issue will be settled as far as the mainstream parties are concerned.

Would we see a sizeable swing to UKIP or has that horse bolted? There is a real possibility that the EU could do to the Tories what Indyref did for Labour in Scotland.
 
My local hospital has just been fined a million pounds for delays to spinal operations caused by the closure of local hospitals and staffing shortages caused by the spending cuts by the Institute of Fiscal Studies. I don't think that's fair or intelligent administration. Corbyn should have the audacity to speak out about that instead of just concentrating on getting rid of the monarchy.

It's like Donald Trump in America saying he would do worse than waterboarding in his third degree and torture methods. Trump would go raving mad if captive Americans were tortured the same way and he would then say it was against international law.
 
Henri McPhee said:
Corbyn should have the audacity to speak out about that instead of just concentrating on getting rid of the monarchy.
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Yeah! What's Corbyn's problem? It's like he's actually supporting the Tories, what with all his, um, support for the Tories and stuff. And the endless speeches about the monarchy, I mean getting rid of the monarchy. And that's not even mentioning his consistent failure to hold Cameron to task about the farm situation in Zimbabwe. :jaw-dropp
 
Archie Gemmill Goal said:
I wonder what is the Plan B for those who are opposed to Britain staying within the EU should the vote be against leaving?
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My guess is to first complain that the vote was unfair - that the "In" campaign had unfair access to the media, that the "In" campaign spun lies about how important it was to stay in the EU and that, even though the vote went against them, more people still support BREXIT on the grounds that they only voted "In" to preserve the status quo, not because they believed it.

Then they will start all over again, complaining about the EU, mithering about every piece of EU legislation which has an impact on the UK.

Finally, in a few years they will start agitating for a new vote on the grounds that there is a generation who didn't vote to stay and/or the EU has changed so much since the vote that in essence it's a new organisation.
 
Just reverse all that if somehow the populace gets it wrong and votes to leave?
 
MikeG said:
Just reverse all that if somehow the populace gets it wrong and votes to leave?
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Not at all, the In campaign is guaranteed access to the media so no complaints there.

The In campaign cannot complain about the status quo being maintained.

Once out there's no way back because the terms would be so much more strict.
 
The main problem I find is that "in" relies a lot on a Big Business persona, the sort of people that the general public trust the least.
 
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Please keep to the topic of the thread, thank you.
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I'd been meaning to note that the unelectable Jeremy Corbyn is tied with Conservatives.

In polls taken before the Budget.

Going by reaction to the Budget so far, I'll be very, very surprised if Jeremy Corbyn & Labour don't have a substantial lead in the next poll.
 
The Atheist said:
I'd been meaning to note that the unelectable Jeremy Corbyn is tied with Conservatives.

In polls taken before the Budget.

Going by reaction to the Budget so far, I'll be very, very surprised if Jeremy Corbyn & Labour don't have a substantial lead in the next poll.
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The next election will be 'interesting' if its Gideon vs Corbyn. The unelectable immovable object vs the unelectable unstoppable force.
 
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