Global warming discussion IV

[a_unique_person]

http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/earth-on-fire-a-catalyst-special/SQ1398H001S00#playing

The age of the mega fire.

 

[CapelDodger]

What is this thing deniers have about polar bears? The damn' things are a bloody menace.

 

[Pixel42]

Just a reminder.

 

[Arnold Martin]

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18 minute documentary from 2014

--- The politics of Polar Bears
--- Polar Bear Jail
--- Is Polar Bear population increasing or decreasing
--- Polar Bear grabs girl for lunch

http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/polar-bears-threatened-species-or-political-pawn-1.2753645

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[macdoc]

Give it a rest am.....denier nonsense is so over.

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Recent summer temperatures in Europe are likely the warmest of the last two millennia, study shows
January 28, 2016

Most of Europe has experienced strong summer warming over the course of the past several decades, accompanied by severe heat waves in 2003, 2010 and 2015. New research now puts the current warmth in a 2100-year historical context using tree-ring information and historical documentary evidence to derive a new European summer temperature reconstruction.
The work was published today in the journal of Environmental Research Letters by a group of 45 scientists from 13 countries.

Warm summers were experienced during Roman times, up to the 3rd century, followed by generally cooler conditions from the 4th to the 7th centuries. A generally warm medieval period was followed by a mostly cold Little Ice Age from the 14th to the 19th centuries. The pronounced warming early in the 20th century and in recent decades is well captured by the tree-ring data and historical evidence on which the new reconstruction is based.

The evidence suggests that past natural changes in summer temperature are larger than previously thought, suggesting that climate models may underestimate the full range of future extreme events, including heat waves. This past variability has been associated with large volcanic eruptions and changes in the amount of energy received from the sun.
The new research finding that temperatures over the past 30 years lie outside the range of these natural variations supports the conclusions reached by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) that recent warming is mainly caused by anthropogenic activity.
"We now have a detailed picture of how summer temperatures have changed over Europe for more than two thousand years and we can use that to test the climate models that are used to predict the impacts of future global warming," says the coordinator of the study, Professor Jürg Luterbacher from the University of Giessen in Germany.


Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2016-01-summer-temperatures-europe-warmest-millennia.html#jCp

 

[Arnold Martin]

Just a reminder.

[qimg]http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm222/Pixel42/Global_Temperature_Anomaly_svg.png[/qimg]

Notice how scary it looks on a graph like that ... bottom left corner right up to top right corner because the scale is only 1/10 of a degree , pretty clever.

Try it with a 100 year time period horizontal , scaled as 10 degrees per square vertical , and you get darn near a straight line.

But straight lines do not scare people.

The politics of graph making.

 

[Trakar]

Notice how scary it looks on a graph like that ... bottom left corner right up to top right corner because the scale is only 1/10 of a degree , pretty clever.

Try it with a 100 year time period horizontal , scaled as 10 degrees per square vertical , and you get darn near a straight line.

But straight lines do not scare people.

The politics of graph making.

You fly high enough, and you can't even see the flashes of light from carpet bombing major cities, much less the body parts of the tens of thousands of people such actions kill, maim, and injure.

Finding a perspective that blinds you to the harm of your actions does not mean that no harm is occurring, merely that it is easier for you to ignore and discount.

 

[ehcks]

Notice how scary it looks on a graph like that ... bottom left corner right up to top right corner because the scale is only 1/10 of a degree , pretty clever.

Try it with a 100 year time period horizontal , scaled as 10 degrees per square vertical , and you get darn near a straight line.

But straight lines do not scare people.

The politics of graph making.

And if I use a temperature graph scaled at 1000 degrees per square vertical, my pot of water on the stove never rises above freezing.

 

[aleCcowaN]

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Polar Bears - Fat - Happy - Cold

-40* C Near Churchill Manitoba Canada

-40* Celsius equals -40* Fahrenheit

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/polar-bear-photos-daisy-gilardini-1.3419627

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Ask their Russian counterparts

Typical Arnold Martin post: puerile attempts to take single examples and make them into the rule or at least something worth of counterbalancing the scales (emphasis in puerile).

 

[macdoc]

Here is your 2000 year graph Arnold....

If that spike doesn't give you pause ....then you are in clinical denial of reality.

16 sources

http://www.skepticalscience.com/Hockey-stick-without-tree-rings.html

Perhaps you should calculate the energy that spike implies.....
http://www.skepticalscience.com/4-Hiroshima-bombs-worth-of-heat-per-second.html

Because small increments in global temperature changes feeds enormous energies into the geo-physical systems.

Just ask those getting hit by extreme weather how that feels.
In addition the Arctic is warming 4 x faster than the rest of the planet. This has real impacts on millions of people.....your belittlement is nothing short of disgusting.

 

[aleCcowaN]

Notice how scary it looks on a graph like that ... bottom left corner right up to top right corner because the scale is only 1/10 of a degree , pretty clever.

Try it with a 100 year time period horizontal , scaled as 10 degrees per square vertical , and you get darn near a straight line.

But straight lines do not scare people.

The politics of graph making.

A disapproving growl sufficed. The nonsensical comments on scales or "how do you get to hide the sun with your hand" were no needed.

 

[aleCcowaN]

Arnold calls Arctic what is clearly not (Churchill, Manitoba, closer than Stockholm to the equator).

Arnold! Churchill is more than 1,000 kilometres south of the Arctic! The fact that there're several hours of light -including long dawns- on December 21st should have given you a hint.

 

[Mikemcc]

Notice how scary it looks on a graph like that ... bottom left corner right up to top right corner because the scale is only 1/10 of a degree , pretty clever.

Try it with a 100 year time period horizontal , scaled as 10 degrees per square vertical , and you get darn near a straight line.

But straight lines do not scare people.

The politics of graph making.

Why on earth would you choose a 10 degree vertical!? What's the significance of 10 degrees (BTW a 10 degree change in global average temperatures is more than a game changer, that is >90% extinction event territory, including the human race!)

 

[macdoc]

Good to see scientists are more confident in attribution..

Man-made climate change raised risk for English floods: study
The study also calculated that human-induced carbon emissions caused a 43-per-cent increase in the risk of the once-in-a-century rainfall event.

Heavy precipitation events are becoming more frequent in England as increased moisture in the atmosphere leads to more rainfall. Here, a man pulls a boat carrying a neighbour in January 2014 in Yalding, England.
PETER MACDIARMID / GETTY IMAGES

By: Raveena Aulakh Environment, Published on Tue Feb 02 2016
Man-made climate change directly influenced the historic storms that battered southern England in the winter of 2013-2014, submerging parts of the country and causing more than $900 million in damages, says a new study by European scientists.
The study also calculated that human-induced carbon emissions caused a whopping 43-per-cent increase in the risk of the once-in-a-century rainfall event.
Published in the journal Nature Climate Change on Monday, the study comes on the heels of another series of destructive storms that hit England repeatedly last month, and again as recently as last week.
The study concluded the heightened risk for extreme rainfall in England was caused by an increase in the water-holding capacity of the atmosphere and an abnormal positioning of the jet stream, both of which are linked to climate change.

more http://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...nge-raised-risk-for-english-floods-study.html

 

[a_unique_person]

Good to see scientists are more confident in attribution..

By the time the evidence for AGW is irrefutable and economic downside is evident to everyone it will be too late.

 

[Hlafordlaes]

The evidence is definitely in. See Venus.

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On another note, take time from such a strenous thread for a nice Arnold-inspired laugh.

 

[CapelDodger]

The January returns for UAH and RSS are in (seems it was quite toasty in the lower troposphere) so no doubt Haig will soon be updating us on the Monckton Pause.

 

[CapelDodger]

By the time the evidence for AGW is irrefutable and economic downside is evident to everyone it will be too late.

Indeed it is.

 

[a_unique_person]

Australia sacks its' climate and ocean research scientists.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-02-05/quinn-csiro-cuts-why-we-need-climate-modelling/7143584

 

[macdoc]

You should get the story correct instead of using misleading headlines.

Chief executive Larry Marshall says the move is aimed at shifting the CSIRO's focus from climate change modelling to climate change adaption.

The CSIRO announced that up to 350 positions in the organisation will change,

Turnbull is not Abbott....

Turnbull Ministry gives nod to science and research ...
www.cpsu.org.au/.../turnbull-ministry-gives-nod-science-and-research
Sep 21, 2015 - The restoration of CSIRO funding is a fundamental test of new Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull's high profile commitment to science and