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It's time for a Ted Cruz thread.

Not a good day for Ted yesterday. Not only did Palin endorse Trump (now there's a couple of ACTUAL fake Christians), the governor of Iowa endorsed "Anybody But Cruz". Ouch.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Yes, his lifelong Christianity.

You're just digging deeper and deeper into that hole of unsupported assertion.

I don't know enough about Popoff to say what his underlying beliefs are. But taking some I know a little more about, I don't think the fact that Tammy Faye and Jim Baker were money hungry televangelists means they weren't also true believers in Jesus.
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Check out Marjoe. There certainly seems to be a lot on the evangelical circuit who are con artists. Of course this doesn't mean they aren't christian, just not the kind of christian they say they are.
 
Trebuchet said:
Oh, there are a certainly a ton of con artists. But they're mostly after money. Ted wants to tell people how to live their lives.
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I think he and his dad want Koch brothers/Freedomworks money. And power, too, but it's hard to tell where one stops and the other begins there.
 
elbe said:
I would like to think that if Cruz were a con artist he'd be a lot more likable.
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Is Benny Hinn likable? Or is he just telling the desperate what they want to hear for personal gain?

(I'm weirdly amused by the notion that the Koch brothers are truly desperate at this point because of Trump, and are pouring money into Cruz out of sheer desperation and nothing more, lighting alters to Satan in hopes that the Democrats don't make a legal issue over the whole "born in Canada" thing. :D )
 
kellyb said:
Is Benny Hinn likable? Or is he just telling the desperate what they want to hear for personal gain?

(I'm weirdly amused by the notion that the Koch brothers are truly desperate at this point because of Trump, and are pouring money into Cruz out of sheer desperation and nothing more, lighting alters to Satan in hopes that the Democrats don't make a legal issue over the whole "born in Canada" thing. :D )
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Why would the the Democrats make a legal issue over his citizenship? They don't even have to hire a lawyer.

A third of Republican voters aren’t sure Ted Cruz is a natural-born citizen, poll finds
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/a-...-a-natural-born-citizen-poll-finds-2016-01-20

The question of whether Cruz is a natural-born citizen is the subject of a lawsuit filed last week in a U.S. District Court in Texas.
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Where else but America can you find humour like this? :yikes:
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor: the most ignored of the Ten Commandments among professed devout Christians.
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In America, I suspect Having No Gods Before Me might be violated more - What with people worshiping money or power or themselves.

ETA you might be right. Apparently Ted Cruz is too stubborn or too stupid to purchase healthinsurance through the federal government as other senators do. And apparently, he forgot that senators get free outpatient care at Walter Reed Hospital in D.C.
 
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Ladewig said:
And apparently, he forgot that senators get free outpatient care at Walter Reed Hospital in D.C.
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I'm quite sure he didn't forget. He's banking on the citizens that this stunt was meant for not knowing it so that he could play the "I'm a common man, just like you" angle.
 
Cl1mh4224rd said:
I'm quite sure he didn't forget. He's banking on the citizens that this stunt was meant for not knowing it so that he could play the "I'm a common man, just like you" angle.
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I've heard from congressional staffers for years about the breathtaking degree of contempt the average Republican lawmaker holds his constituency in.

You guys have to read this whole article:
http://exiledonline.com/libertarian...airman-william-niskanen-deficits-dont-matter/

Like typical Randroid libertarians, they find the public’s gullibility and good faith contemptible. This is something that Americans still can’t get their heads around about the free-market libertarians who’ve ruled us and ruined us over the past three decades. Here, for example, is how a middle-of-the-road guy, New York Times columnist Tom Wicker, described von Hayek’s cynical boasting about the big deficit swindle back in 1985:
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Poor earnest Tom Wicker’s problem here, we all know now, is his lack of rank cynicism; he still believes that these people care about “consequences” for anyone but themselves
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kellyb said:
This is something that Americans still can’t get their heads around about the free-market libertarians who’ve ruled us and ruined us over the past three decades.
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He must be living in an alternate dimension, because we haven't been ruled by free-market libertarians for the last three decades. If we had, the regulatory burden of the state would have decreased, not increased as it has. Whether you think that's a good thing or a bad thing is irrelevant: he's completely delusional about what has happened.
 
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