Ed Ralph Nader's thoughts on the 2016 "Corporate Elections"

Skeptic Ginger said:
That's not the point. If you don't back the lesser of two evils you risk getting the greater evil. And in this case that's what happened and it was disastrous.
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That is extremely obvious. Al Gore's failure to convince Nader voters of that makes him unfit to win the election.
 
Childlike Empress said:
You mean that he'll kneel down to your dreadful idol? We'll see. Not unlikely.
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First off, no need to be snotty because I prefer an experienced competent President over an idealistic one that won't be able to accomplish much.

But as for Sanders and a third party run, pretty sure he recognizes there is a huge difference between Clinton and any of the GOP clowns. Unlike some people such as the Nader voters who thought there was no difference between GW and Gore.
 
fuelair said:
No, it used to be a man and used to have principles but that went away due to it's change to desire for power and corrupted accordingly................
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Principles being fighting for what you believe in, instead of frauds like the Bern who despise what Hillary stands for but will endorse her anyway.
 
logger said:
Principles being fighting for what you believe in, instead of frauds like the Bern who despise what Hillary stands for but will endorse her anyway.
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Given the loathesome slime republickers seem to be supporting again, no contest even if Hillary had done all the stuff that lot of filthy buggers claim!!!!!

Since she did not, .........................
 
uke2se said:
So what you're saying is that it was Gore's fault that you went to war in Iraq.
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I am saying the only person responsible for Gore losing is al Gore. You can't blame the enemy for your losses. It would be like trying to say it is the patriots fault for the seahawks losing the super bowl.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I am saying the only person responsible for Gore losing is al Gore. You can't blame the enemy for your losses. It would be like trying to say it is the patriots fault for the seahawks losing the super bowl.
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If the Patriots played a game against the Seahawks and at the same time, the Giants played a game against the Seahawks, I'd say it's a bit unfair to blame the loss squarely on the Seahawks.
 
BobTheCoward said:
I am saying the only person responsible for Gore losing is al Gore. You can't blame the enemy for your losses. It would be like trying to say it is the patriots fault for the seahawks losing the super bowl.
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Yes, I can blame Nader, among other things like the Florida vote rigging.

You can blame what you want.

And Nader picked a very bad time to daydream about the viability of a third party.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
And Nader picked a very bad time to daydream about the viability of a third party.
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Everybody who pretends that a "business as usual" is possible with this highly corrupt, farcical system is part of the problem. Which leaves Trump and Sanders. Nader rightly asked what will happen to Bernie's large, often young following when it realizes how rigged the game even inside the Democratic party is. He believes Trump will hang himself on the way, but if he doesn't and his following witnesses the same corruption inside the Republican party the followers of Ron Paul had to witness four years ago, only on a much larger scale ... where does that lead to? Certainly not to a place where your dreadful idol is a respected president of a stable country.
 
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People so delusional that they saw no difference between Al Gore and W are partly responsible for the objectively disasterous Bush presidency. Al Gore deserves some of the blame too for trying to distance himself from Clinton.
 
Childlike Empress said:
Everybody who pretends that a "business as usual" is possible with this highly corrupt, farcical system is part of the problem. Which leaves Trump and Sanders. Nader rightly asked what will happen to Bernie's large, often young following when it realizes how rigged the game even inside the Democratic party is. He believes Trump will hang himself on the way, but if he doesn't and his following witnesses the same corruption inside the Republican party the followers of Ron Paul had to witness four years ago, only on a much larger scale ... where does that lead to? Certainly not to a place where your gruesome idol is a respected president of a stable country.
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Says a Putin fanboy.
 
Childlike Empress said:
... your gruesome idol...
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These ad homs don't make a reasoned post.

Why do you need to demean people's opinions by falsely claiming they idolize the choice?

I'm pretty sure that more Sanders followers fit the idolizing charge than Clinton supporters.
 
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uke2se said:
If the Patriots played a game against the Seahawks and at the same time, the Giants played a game against the Seahawks, I'd say it's a bit unfair to blame the loss squarely on the Seahawks.
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I would if those were the rules.
 
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