According to the bible can Satan influence our physical world or can he/she only tempt and influence humans?
IOW, can Satan give cancer to babies and other such atrocities?
A "Satan" is really more of a biblical stock character. A demon who shows up to screw with humans, sometimes working with God. Probably Zoroastrian dualism had some influence and Satan gradually turns into more of a cosmic force - yet still in the Gospels we see him running errands for God.
Let's immerse ourselves in the world of the Buybull where magic and the supernatural are ubiquitous and devils and demonic possessions are common everyday occurrences.
The ancients used to believe (and shamefully and pathetically some people still do even in the 21
st century) that you can have someone POSSESSED by a demon or spirit by
HEXING their food or drink (
see here).
Christians did and still do believe in demonic, satanic and spirit possessions (e.g.
Luke 8:27-36,
Matthew 4:24,
Mark 1:32)
We are also told that Jesus had full control over demons and devils and they knew him very well
Mark 1:34 And he healed many that were sick of divers diseases, and
cast out many devils; and suffered not the devils to speak, because they knew him.
Carrying on with this Buybullical "logic" one can only conclude that
Jesus is the DEVIL
Or at least the Devil works for or in cahoots with Jesus
Read CAREFULLY
John 13:21-30 (see below) as to what transpired between Jesus and Judas during the last supper night before Judas went and guided the Sanhedrin to Jesus' whereabouts in the garden of Gethsemane (
or was it Mount of Olives).
As detailed in the verses you would notice that
Jesus HEXED Judas and caused him to be possessed by the devil and that is why Judas immediately departed and went to betray Jesus.
"It is the one to whom I give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish". So when he had dipped the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas son of Simon Iscariot. After he received the piece of bread, Satan entered into him."
Even in
Luke 22:3-4 it says Judas was possessed by the devil while betraying Jesus, but does not elaborate like John does over how he got to be in such a state.
Then Satan entered into Judas called Iscariot, who was one of the twelve; he went away and conferred with the chief priests and officers of the temple police about how he might betray him to them.
Jesus said someone is going to betray him. They asked him who? Instead of naming Judas outright without any
TRICKERY, he instead proceeded to dip a piece of bread into wine then hand it to one of them who was then entered by the devil after eating the
HEXED bread?
Upon careful consideration of the verses below it looks like Jesus
ordered the devil to possess Judas to compel him to betray Jesus so as to achieve the desired outcome of being finally executed in order
to fulfill Jesus' plots .... see especially
John 12:27-36 but also see
Matthew 16:21-23,
Matthew 17:22-23,
Mark 8:31-33,
Luke 9:21-22.
John 13:21-31
21 When Jesus had thus said, he was troubled in spirit, and testified, and said, Verily, verily, I say unto you, that one of you shall betray me.
22 Then the disciples looked one on another, doubting of whom he spake.
23 Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.
24 Simon Peter therefore beckoned to him, that he should ask who it should be of whom he spake.
25 He then lying on Jesus' breast saith unto him, Lord, who is it?
26 Jesus answered, He it is, to whom I shall give a sop, when I have dipped it. And when he had dipped the sop, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, the son of Simon.
27 And after the sop Satan entered into him. Then said Jesus unto him, That thou doest, do quickly.
30 He then having received the sop went immediately out: and it was night.
31 Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him.
Notice that Judas is an innocent victim here.
Judas was POSSESSED by Satan on the behest of Jesus.
It was Jesus who dipped the bread in an apparently enchanted wine and thus caused poor Judas to become
controlled by Jesus’ crony the Devil. Jesus even orders him to go ahead and do what he was told to do quickly.
Given Jesus' powers over demons and devils and his ability to exorcise them out of anyone with just a few words of magic, he could have easily exorcised poor Judas from any demonic possession if it was not his intention for him to be possessed...no?
But Jesus, in order to carry out his plots, caused poor unfortunate Judas to be possessed by the devil and to do a deed that Judas would have not willingly carried out had he not been ENCHANTED and under a magical SPELL.
31Therefore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him.
In other words Jesus NEW JOLLY WELL what the Devil possessing Judas was going to do. He knew jolly well that it was going
to accomplish his plotting in order to get glorified.
So here you have it folks….. The DEVIL IS IN CAHOOTS WITH JESUS according to the Buybull ITSELF.... if not in fact Jesus is the boss devil himself ordering about a lesser devil.
Of course that is not surprising when you consider that Jesus (the counter ego of YHWH) was already, for a long time before, quite versed in LYING and DECEPTION.
Ezekiel 14:9 And
if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.
2 Chronicles 18:22 Now therefore, behold,
the LORD hath put a lying spirit in the mouth of these thy prophets
Notice how he CONTROLS and manipulates poor Pharaoh so as to eventually feign an excuse to massacre children and animals (as he always loved to do).... and for what.... so that he can
glorify himself.
Romans 9:17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for this very purpose,
that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.
Notice here what he admits to doing..... and all for what... to glorify himself.
Ezekiel 20:25-26 Wherefore
I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live; And I polluted them in their own gifts, in that they caused to pass through the fire all that openeth the womb, that
I might make them desolate, to the end that they might know that I am the LORD.
Look how he cheats and tricks poor Ahab here
1 Kings 22:22-23 The angel answered, ‘I will go out and become
a spirit of lies in the mouths of Ahab’s prophets—they will all speak lies.’ So the
Lord said, ‘Yes, that will fool Ahab. Go out and do that.’ So that is what has happened here.
The Lord made your prophets lie to you. The Lord himself decided to bring this disaster to you.
But Above all.... who but the vilest of demons and devils.... who but the most heinous of monsters would say stuff like this
Leviticus 26:14-32 If ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments;.....
I will also send wild beasts among you, which shall rob you of your children, and destroy your cattle, and make you few in number; and your high ways shall be desolate.....
And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat.
And of course his followers LYING for his sake is a good indication of who Jesus really was.
Paul dissimulates and hucksters and shysters for Jesus's sake
- 1 Corinthians 9:20-23 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law. To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings."
Eusebius, Emperor Constantine's bishop, legalizes deception for Jesus' sake
- How it may be lawful and fitting to use falsehood as a medicine, and for the benefit of those who want to be deceived.
And Martin Luther the founder of Protestantism sanctified lying for Jesus' sake
- What harm would it do, if a man told a good strong lie for the sake of the good and for the Christian church ... a lie out of necessity, a useful lie, a helpful lie, such lies would not be against God, he would accept them.
Martin Luther also explained why reason is not something Jesus' followers should value
- Reason is the greatest enemy that faith has; it never comes to the aid of spiritual things, but - more frequently than not - struggles against the divine Word, treating with contempt all that emanates from God
And Jesus fully agreed with him
- Proverbs 3:5 Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.
- 1 Corinthians 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
- 1 Corinthians 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
- 1 Corinthians 1:27 But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise;
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